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My Love 4 Jasha
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Curious wrote: <quoted text> It seems to me that from her posts, Kayleigh is very grounded and because of that, I'm assuming that her parents are very aware of how she feels. Her cries for help are to the outside wanting to help Jasha. The focus for the "community" should not be on Kayleigh, but on what happened when Jasha died???? So pulleezzze, stop with the "kayleigh's cry for help, BS..." Stick to the issue at hand. There are facts that don't add up and Kayleigh knows that, as well as a lot of other people. Just the facts, ma'am Hello “Curious” I am not sure if you are a first timer of have another blog name, but regardless I would like to address the “Kayleigh” issue that you have spoken about. Our plight here is for Jasha – first and foremost, but do not for one second discount those left behind. If a child / kid calls out to us then that too is our mission. To acknowledge, protect and provide the necessary means to get them through this horrific time. For this was who Jasha, whether he knew it or not, is all about. I want to you understand that I am not blasting you, but as a gentle reminder to ALL here, our children are our future, and it is with the guidance of a village that we take this responsibility on. We are keeping our eye on the ball. With Deep Respect and Admiration for your passion….
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My Love 4 Jasha wrote: <quoted text> Hello “Curious” I am not sure if you are a first timer of have another blog name, but regardless I would like to address the “Kayleigh” issue that you have spoken about. Our plight here is for Jasha – first and foremost, but do not for one second discount those left behind. If a child / kid calls out to us then that too is our mission. To acknowledge, protect and provide the necessary means to get them through this horrific time. For this was who Jasha, whether he knew it or not, is all about. I want to you understand that I am not blasting you, but as a gentle reminder to ALL here, our children are our future, and it is with the guidance of a village that we take this responsibility on. We are keeping our eye on the ball. With Deep Respect and Admiration for your passion…. Perfectly stated! Thank you for always being a voice of reason and directing people back to the focus of the forum. I admit I am guilty of blasting someone elses comments and I try so hard not to, but sometimes some of the comments are just insane and well, you know. So, I apologize and I will think of you the next time I want to fire back at someone. As I posted before I would love to contribute a bench or other memorial and am wondering who I should get in contact with. I want to make sure I get what Jasha's friends and family want before I make a purchase. If anyone has any ideas on who to talk to, maybe Kayleigh, please e-mail me at justiceforjasha@hotmail.com. Thanks
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Its Me wrote: There are some very well spoken people who post and are very considerate of others posts, whether they agree or not. Blasting one another's post is not the purpose of this forum. We know everyone has their opinions, but getting off track seems to delight some. This forum is for Jasha and what pushed him to take his life. Nothing more than that people. Thank you. Yes, there will be those that will attempt to change the subject and get others riled. Some don't recognize the trick of distraction and others really just don't care. You are right, this forum IS for Jasha and finding the truth!
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Former disciple 2 wrote: I, personally, do not buy this theory by archangel flyer that this was some sort of satanic ritual killing. I just don't feel that it was that complicated. Going in this direction seems way off base. You probably have this theory because you have perhaps been studying such and it has become forefront in your consciousness as a possible motive. No...... nice try though.... I do agree with what you said that Jasha has supplanted L. with the light. OK so what do you think happened? Are you saying the time date and place thing is a co-incidence?
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Released and Renewed wrote: Archangel Flyer, But deliberate occult planning and executing? Not LDD. The terrible machinations of the occult followers / practitioners is well documented, especially those parts relating to ritual sacrifice of children - with lots of sex involved - and the special days on which to enact these ceremonies of will reversal and death. There are many on earth working hard to stop humanity from coming into it's own birthright and destiny. L.'s was just a little piece of the action. Nevertheless, a little piece with a huge impact... Thanks. So your thoughts then, if we rule out option 4?
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Christian Mom wrote: <quoted text> Yes, I agree--"How convenient" that Markus found Jasha. I wonder if Louis pointed him in the right direction after it got to be too many days with no one finding him? Ever consider it may have been Markus? Under is "guru's" orders?
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Its Me wrote: From one that attended the memorial a few choice words from HIM. Sunday he took Jasha for a ride to San Diego after telling of his "Epiphany" which is approximately an hours drive from Laguna Hills. They sat on a cliff overlooking the ocean with hang gliders soaring over their heads and could almost reach up and touch them. Monday and Tuesday Jasha stayed home from school and THEY held him in their arms. Tuesday late afternoon Jasha went missing. At 7:30 They called around looking for Jasha. Later they called the police, others went out looking for Jasha, but L didn't he had to stay at home. The above are the words of his step father. Lastly, Jasha was found Wednesday March 2lst not far from his home. Can any of Jasha's friends collaborate this story from Louie? Did he not talk to any of his friends Monday or Tiesday? I heard a friend post earlier this is not true...he (Jasha) was with him. ?????????? Did anyone talk to Jasha M or T ??
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Vicki wrote: Well 'Ladies'(what a contradiction!), unlike your regular habit here on this blog of quoting information without intimate personal knowledge, I actually know for a FACT (remembering that you cannot rely on newspapers and media...as even YOU have quoted in earlier posts here) I actually do know for fact that Jodie unlike her friend Stephanie was infact just like Jasha (ie) popular, outgoing, friendly, well liked and her parents cared immensely about her. One sad co-incidence being that one of her parents, also as Jasha, held a high profile within our community... But all this was all highly unusual behaviour for her and the entire community is still in shock. As is yours. Stephanie, Jodie`s 'recent' friend l might add, was indeed a very troubled lass and under psychological care. Jodie didnot blog about committing suicide ever, although Stephanie did, being a member of the cultish group called 'Emo'...Blog THAT Arch Flyer! And looking at that case scenario, poor Stephanie had all the care under the sun and her parents spent many a long hour with her too, trying to help ...and l still cannot believe that you would twist the fact that Jasha`s father spent long hours trying to talk to him, as something so twisted as abuse!!! Heavens l would think it horrible if he had not!...Gees you have obviously never been in the heartrendering position of trying to council a seriously troubled teenager. Do a little more research Arch flyer (Hillcrest Aust), but then again your info on pagan rituals seems a little TOO researched for me, perhaps you have intimate knowledge on these subjects yourself! Sounds scarily satanic to me and most certainly NOTHING like the teachings of MY teacher. Just curious.... were these 2 girls a part of Louie's disciples or otherwise associated in anyway? If not, why are they brought into play in this forum? If so, hmmmmmm???????? Just wondering.
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Straight Lady wrote: <quoted text> ANYWAYS???? LOVELY GRAMMER. WE ARE NOT "HEREROPHOBES", SOLEY CHRISTIAN MOM PHOBES. YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE STRAIGHT AND CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY. I stopped reading CM's posts a long time ago. My best friend is gay. I am a mother of 2, happily married for 13 years. Her posts have rage and venom that I will not longer tolerate. I appreciate her angst as we all have but this is not a person I would like to "unite" with. I will when it comes to Jasha via petition, forum, city council...whatever but NEVER will we agree on her views on "gay" people. Why would anyone judge someone that could save their life, you you push them away because they may be gay????? Yes, there are bad...very bad people out there. But gay people? Why are they bad? God forbid their child is....how awful for them to have a parent like her.
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friend wrote: <quoted text> Just curious.... were these 2 girls a part of Louie's disciples or otherwise associated in anyway? If not, why are they brought into play in this forum? If so, hmmmmmm???????? Just wondering. Friend: This is Vicki's and some others way of trying to divert the conversations away from JASHA. Well they are not succeeding.
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friend wrote: <quoted text> Ever consider it may have been Markus? Under is "guru's" orders? Response to CM earlier.......... Can any of Jasha's friends collaborate this story from Louie? Did he not talk to any of his friends Monday or Tuesday? I heard a friend post earlier this is not true...he (Jasha) was with him. after I realized I was responding to CM........ I did not realize I was responding to you........major jet lag. I cannot tolerate your homophobia.
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My Love 4 Jasha wrote: <quoted text> Hello “Curious” I am not sure if you are a first timer of have another blog name, but regardless I would like to address the “Kayleigh” issue that you have spoken about. Our plight here is for Jasha – first and foremost, but do not for one second discount those left behind. If a child / kid calls out to us then that too is our mission. To acknowledge, protect and provide the necessary means to get them through this horrific time. For this was who Jasha, whether he knew it or not, is all about. I want to you understand that I am not blasting you, but as a gentle reminder to ALL here, our children are our future, and it is with the guidance of a village that we take this responsibility on. We are keeping our eye on the ball. With Deep Respect and Admiration for your passion…. I think that we are on the same page, but voicing it differently. My point to Vicki is that she should stick to the issue at hand (Jasha) and not try to convulute the issue, because I interpreted Vicki's post to mean that Kayleigh needed guidance from her parents since (Vicki believed) Kayleigh was mis-guided into thinking Jasha's death was anything but a suicide. As I stated in my previous post, I see Kayleigh as being very grounded (meaning she probably does have parental support). I was supporting Kayleigh, not discounting her. I was supporting her in her quest to find the truth about Jasha because there are REAL questions in this case and I found Vicki's post to be patronizing to Kayleigh, as if Vicki felt Kayleigh was misguided and needed her parents to redirect her. Hope I've clarified my opinion. PS... I am a 2nd timer now for posting
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So Louie, How does it feel to be you? How does it feel to have to spend the rest of your life with your disciples that never stop whining and having issues? How does it feel that your dreams will never be realized as being god incarnate? Do you think Oprah would have you on her show now? How does it feel that Jasha has now surpassed you and will never be forgotten for the beautiful soul that he is? And what are you going to do now? Are you planning another miracle to get you out of this!!! You have directed your disciples to remain silent and to not even talk to each other. Is that how it works???? Somehow I think that there must be a few that are starting to pack their bags and leave you without a sound. I pray they make it!
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THE FORMAT OF THIS FORUM leaves a lot to be desired. Posts can be taken out of context due to the fact when someone wants to post a quote and add a reply, then someone else wishes to quote and reply to the same post, the initial post (quote) is not brought forward.
Well have I now confused all of you, hope not.
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New wrote: <quoted text>Thanks. So your thoughts then, if we rule out option 4? I don't understand. Where are you going with this?
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Former disciple 2 wrote: So Louie, How does it feel to be you? How does it feel to have to spend the rest of your life with your disciples that never stop whining and having issues? How does it feel that your dreams will never be realized as being god incarnate? Do you think Oprah would have you on her show now? How does it feel that Jasha has now surpassed you and will never be forgotten for the beautiful soul that he is? And what are you going to do now? Are you planning another miracle to get you out of this!!! You have directed your disciples to remain silent and to not even talk to each other. Is that how it works???? Somehow I think that there must be a few that are starting to pack their bags and leave you without a sound. I pray they make it! Actually, Louis WANTS his disciples to have issues because it makes him feel more in control. God forbid they wake up someday and realize they can actually think for themselves and that there really are happy people in the world that don't have guru's and that they really don't have to pay someone to point out their issues. As long as the disciples are in the ashram, they will ALWAYS feel insignificant and question their path! Louis, you have told your disciples what you want them to hear and right now, they believe you, but deep inside, they doubt you and someday, they will wonder if you DID take advantage a Jasha and what part you played in his death! The word is out and people are finally opening their eyes to what you really are! You have tarnished your reputation all by yourself! Katrina & Ela don't believe in you anymore - they don't trust you. It's only a matter of time......
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Released and Renewed wrote: <quoted text> I don't understand. Where are you going with this? Hi, thanks for responding. I meant there were five options presented by AFlyer assuming one believes the date, manner and place tying to occultist ceremony is significant. In your recent post I think you noted in your opinion you did not see LDD involved in occultism per se. This then leaves options 1-4 or perhaps a friend or other acquaintance known to Jasha who was into occultism. Or it means you don't think the date manner and place tie in is significant at all (a bit hard to ignore isn't it?) I'm just interested in your views, nothing more.
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So you're acknowledging that it's probably murder?
I'm saying that L's mind was thoroughly occupied by the luciferians, and that, if they wanted a blood sacrifice for that occassion, they could have driven him to it, especially given the serious agitations coming from Jasha.
Not what you wanted to hear?
Cold-blooded murder in the first degree.
So who exactly did it? Gee, i don't know...
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To Louix:
LouiX if you think it was Jasha who "told you" to do things or Jasha who was speaking to you after Jasha had died, as you have been telling people, that is not Jasha - I beleive that is a demon from Satan and whatever it tells you to do is wrong.
No people should have followed Louix.
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DEFINITIONS OF "GURU" (Does Louis fit the bill?)
=(Literally the word guru means teacher) Second level of its meaning is that the guru is a spiritual leader, a saint, a Enlightener. GU (darkness) RU (light); One who brings light into darkness. A teacher.. However, the meaning of the word Guru in Sikh terminology is at a further higher level, and it stands for the 'prophet'.
=a man blessed by God, who is born enlightened, without needing to learn how to be holy. Gu translates as 'evil darkness' and Ru as 'divine light'; a guru is a man perfectly poised above good and evil, who has already transcended to another level. The name is commonly used for a religious teacher.
=A spiritual master who has attained oneness with God and who is able both to initiate seekers and to guide them on the spiritual path to liberation. A true Guru is required to be learned in the scriptures and must belong to a lineage of masters..
=in Hinduism, a spiritual teacher or preceptor, treated with the deepest respect and greatest reverence; one who lights up the Way Godward; a torch-bearer on the way back to the mansion of the Lord.
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