Father tells of boy's sexual abuse at Tampa mosque

"The father knows that many Muslims would have kept this matter private.

He could have quietly moved his family to another mosque and left Shahade behind.

'Some people feel that airing your dirty laundry, the shame comes on you. No. Our family does not feel shame,' he said.'If we had let him go, he would've done it to somebody else ...'"

UK Asians 'silent' on child abuse

Many Asians in the UK are hiding behind a "wall of silence" when it comes to reporting child abuse, according to child protection charity the NSPCC.
A survey carried out for the charity found only 48% of British Asians polled would tell the authorities if they suspected a child was being abused.
Many said informing the authorities would "dishonour" the child's family.
It compares with a similar survey in 2005 which found 92% of the general UK population would inform authorities.
The survey for the NSPCC involved face-to-face interviews with 500 first, second and third-generation British Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis in the UK.
Most said they would prefer to deal with suspected child abuse themselves rather than involve the police or social services.
And their reluctance to speak out is fuelled by fears that the child would be removed from their family, and because the authorities do not understand their religion and culture.
More than two-thirds of those questioned said they also feared that reporting child abuse would have a negative effect on the "honour" - known as "izzat" - of a child's family.
NSPCC Asian Helpline Manager, Saleha Islam said: "Child abuse happens in all communities and there is no evidence that it is greater amongst British Asians.
"However, cultural issues and the importance placed on family reputation could mean that it is being hidden away.
"Izzat means that family comes before the individual, but to keep children safe from abuse their interests must come first.
"We want to send out a message to the British Asian community that putting up a wall of silence will not protect children. It will only protect the abuser who will be free to abuse again."
Responsibility
Of those questioned for the survey, 37% said they have suspected a child was being abused, yet 42% of them did nothing about their concerns.
A quarter confronted the alleged abuser themselves, 24% telling a member of the child's family and 17% speaking to the child concerned directly.
About 4% did report their suspicions to the police, and 3% to social services.
Two-thirds of respondents also said they felt their community was not open to talking about child abuse.
Ms Islam said: "We need to tackle the stigma and fear attached to seeking professional help for family problems otherwise British Asian children will be denied the protection on offer to other children in our society.
"The community must take responsibility for changing any attitudes and beliefs that could be making their children vulnerable to abuse."
She added: "We would like to see the Government lead a public education campaign that will give the British Asian community the knowledge and confidence to overcome any barriers to reporting child abuse."
In 2001, the NSPCC set up a telephone helpline to encourage information from Asian people who suspect child abuse but may feel excluded by existing English-speaking advice sources.

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13-year-old, called his mother, begging to be brought home. He said the imam had sexually assaulted him ...

islam is not safe for boys until they reach puberty, because until then any adult male can abuse them with impunity, remember that rape laws in islam state that there have to e 4 adult male witnesses to testify that there was a crime & that children & females only count as 1/2 a person

& you thought that the Israeli/Palestinian, Iraqi & Afghanistani struggles fueled all this muslim rage, its all the suppressed anger at having been raped repeatedly as young boys, they want to regain their honor by killing others

remember that, the next time you see mobs of muslims protesting the next offense with their blaring slogans of;
"death to those that insult islam"
"behead those that insult islam"
"we will dominate the world"

its all out of anger, shame & revenge

No it makes sense why Obama wants to change the paedeophilia laws for a softer stance against the dirty criminals, He wants to protect his own.

Joe DeCaro wrote:

"The father knows that many Muslims would have kept this matter private.
He could have quietly moved his family to another mosque and left Shahade behind.
'Some people feel that airing your dirty laundry, the shame comes on you. No. Our family does not feel shame,' he said.'If we had let him go, he would've done it to somebody else ...'"

But if it was a Catholic priest, they would publish it far and wide so they can justify it for themselves..

Sound Doc wrote:

No it makes sense why Obama wants to change the paedeophilia laws for a softer stance against the dirty criminals, He wants to protect his own.

is this true.

Terrible story. We forget the victims while indulging in the usual vitriol. Criminals deserve to be punished.

Sound Doc wrote:

No it makes sense why Obama wants to change the paedeophilia laws for a softer stance against the dirty criminals, He wants to protect his own.

I find this very hard to believe. Please post a link or some evidence.

Chago wrote:

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islam is not safe for boys until they reach puberty, because until then any adult male can abuse them with impunity, remember that rape laws in islam state that there have to e 4 adult male witnesses to testify that there was a crime & that children & females only count as 1/2 a person
& you thought that the Israeli/Palestinian, Iraqi & Afghanistani struggles fueled all this muslim rage, its all the suppressed anger at having been raped repeatedly as young boys, they want to regain their honor by killing others
remember that, the next time you see mobs of muslims protesting the next offense with their blaring slogans of;
"death to those that insult islam"
"behead those that insult islam"
"we will dominate the world"
its all out of anger, shame & revenge

Forgive me, Do Chago, but are these people alone in this?

The psychosexual disorder of paedophilia may owe more to the psychotic malaise of Christianity than mere institutional opportunity.

In many respects, Christianity – and in particular its iconography – has an obsession with the "Christ child", a perfect, often naked, infant.

Does this encourage a morbid interest in prepubescent children? Does "love of Christ" lead inexorably into "love" of his children. For some among the many thousands of priestly abusers, this must certainly be the case.

Father James Porter – 30 year career molesting children of both sexes.

Father John Geoghan – 30 years of abusing hundreds of children

Homosexual proclivities were but one consequence of Christianity's disastrous attitude towards sex. The same violent frustrations meted out upon women often found other victims.

As ever, "theology" provided a divinely sanctioned rationale. Christ had suffered on the cross for the sins of the world. It was only just that unrepentant sinners should be given a taste of that suffering. Pain was "good for the soul".

It was a preview of damnation and ever-lasting torment. A goodly degree of torture, whilst it might destroy a victim's body, might snatch a soul back from the jaws of hell and therefore was an act of Christian kindness.

So widespread was the perverse notion of sacred suffering that the "flagellants," set about flogging themselves into a frenzy of ecstatic delirium, a painful but pious method of arousing an erotic response. Scourging and extreme asceticism, whilst masquerading as religious observance and submission to God, in any other context would be correctly recognized as masochism.

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/sex-4.htm

Don Juan De Marco wrote:

<quoted text>Forgive me, Do Chago, but are these people alone in this?
The psychosexual disorder of paedophilia may owe more to the psychotic malaise of Christianity than mere institutional opportunity.
In many respects, Christianity

hehehehehe, you are so funny & obviously don't know enough about islam to comment, do the research for yourself, tighing wasn't reserved for little girls.

European homos used to visit the Ottoman Empire as the original gaysex tourists, where do you think gays learned to love turkish baths so much?

Chago wrote:

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islam is not safe for boys until they reach puberty, because until then any adult male can abuse them with impunity, remember that rape laws in islam state that there have to e 4 adult male witnesses to testify that there was a crime & that children & females only count as 1/2 a person
& you thought that the Israeli/Palestinian, Iraqi & Afghanistani struggles fueled all this muslim rage, its all the suppressed anger at having been raped repeatedly as young boys, they want to regain their honor by killing others
remember that, the next time you see mobs of muslims protesting the next offense with their blaring slogans of;
"death to those that insult islam"
"behead those that insult islam"
"we will dominate the world"
its all out of anger, shame & revenge

Forgive me again, Don Chago, but I couldn't help but bring the following to your esteemed attention.

Long list of Jewish Child Molestor Rabbis gets no media coverage and Jewish homosexual pedophiles are undisturbed.

http://100777.com/node/463

http://www.google.com/search...

Republican values create child molesters

Republican activist and former chairman of the Christian County Republicans Royce Fessenden pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree child molestation ...

www.armchairsubversive.com/

Christian Coalition Leader: Child Molester?

Louis Beres has for a long time served as chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. He is also, according to recent reports, a child molester who ...

glclk.about.com/...

Riverside Christian School Teacher Arrested for Child Molestation

Riverside Christian School Teacher Arrested for Child Molestation. Riverside, Ca- On June 5, 2002, Riverside Police arrested Ryan Rickard for several counts ...

www.riversideca.gov/rpd/press/2002releases/ju...

http://www.google.com/search...

george whyte wrote:

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is this true.

No it isn't. Sound Doc is referring to HR-1913, which certain far-right christian zealots (hence Sound Doc's remark) claim would protect paedophiles. HR-1913 deals with hate crimes, and it lists amongst others "sexual orientation". Since that includes "homosexuality", our dear far-right christian zealot friends are all up in arms, but know they have too little support in the US to attack that aspect. Hence "paedophilia" is used as the stick to try and remove "sexual orientation" from the bill.

Don Juan De Marco wrote:

Forgive me again, Don Chago, but I couldn't help but bring the following to your esteemed attention.
Long list of...

I don't deny that there are unfortunately too many cases of abuse of power in the West by religious types.

thing is, use your logic to see the scope of the problem in islam;

*a whole society that views the virginity of women as the responsibility of the males of that family, hence honor killings & child brides
*a whole society that gives adult males authority over females
*a whole society that historically has used rape as a weapon of terror, war, privilege (see the reports from the first Gulf War from female POW's)
*a whole society that forces unmarried males to avoid sex with females until married, at all costs
*a whole society that that is so sexually charged that unescorted females get gang-raped/that older unmarried males abuse young boys, since until they reach puberty, are not considered adults, hence can be abused/hazed by older ranks

you see the picture?

Chago wrote:

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*a whole society

you see the picture?

*a whole society that does not mind belly dance.

you see the picture?

http://www.youtube.com/results...

http://www.google.com/search...

LOOOOOOL!

Nemesis wrote:

<quoted text>*a whole society that does not mind belly dance.
you see the picture?
http://www.youtube.com/results...
http://www.google.com/search...
LOOOOOOL!

Damn.. even the belly dance originates from India and Persia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belly_dance#Orig...

Nemesis wrote:

<quoted text>*a whole society that does not mind belly dance.
...
LOOOOOOL!

odd people, not sure if they use that as porn? you know, to get the master of the house ready for his harem?

they also find ways around the strict guidelines, a Saudi I met in college said he used to veil himself to sneak into his girlfriend's house & practiced oral sex, so that they would still be "virgin", I guess Prez Clinton must have met him in college too & taken pointers about the meaning of "sex"?

Ex-Muslim wrote:

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Damn.. even the belly dance originates from India and Persia

Damn.. shik shak shok belly dance did not originate from India and Persia

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

http://www.youtube.com/results...

LOOOOOOOL!

Chago wrote:

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not sure if they use that as porn?

not sure if they use that as fun?

http://www.youtube.com/results...

http://www.youtube.com/results...

http://www.youtube.com/results...

***Bonus!***

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

***LOL!***

george whyte wrote:

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is this true.

Yes, Hussein Obama IS dirty Muslim taqiy-yanist specialists.

Don Juan De Marco wrote:

<quoted text>Forgive me again, Don Chago, but I couldn't help but bring the following to your esteemed attention.
Long list of Jewish Child Molestor Rabbis gets no media coverage and Jewish homosexual pedophiles are undisturbed.
http://100777.com/node/463
http://www.google.com/search...
Republican values create child molesters
Republican activist and former chairman of the Christian County Republicans Royce Fessenden pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree child molestation ...
www.armchairsubversive.com/
Christian Coalition Leader: Child Molester?
Louis Beres has for a long time served as chairman of the Christian Coalition of Oregon. He is also, according to recent reports, a child molester who ...
glclk.about.com/...
Riverside Christian School Teacher Arrested for Child Molestation
Riverside Christian School Teacher Arrested for Child Molestation. Riverside, Ca- On June 5, 2002, Riverside Police arrested Ryan Rickard for several counts ...
www.riversideca.gov/rpd/press/2002releases/ju...
http://www.google.com/search...

And your point? If someone else did it TOO, then it is OK in God's mind?
Don't you know that every sexual sinner will burn in hell forever, from MOHAMMAD to the priests and up until the end of time?
1Co 6:9 ¶ Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomite
Re 21:8 "But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."