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Sylmar, CA

Anti-gang injunction evokes mixed feelings

Alicia De La Cruz hears the words city and county prosecutors use to describe her and her Sylmar neighbors and is left puzzled.

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Apr 28, 2008
 
What are they crying about? That entire area is worthless properties and homes. The area is already a piece of crappy estate.
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Apr 29, 2008
 
I live in Sylmar and really, really, really, really, hate gang bangers. What sucks about it even more, is that I'm going bald. I now have to worry about getting shot for looking like one of those bald headed low lives. Ain't life in the Valley grand?
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Man, when my grandma bought a condo in Sylmar, the area was nice about 6 or 7 years ago. Now you got all these thugs, hanging around the neighborhood, and breaking into homes and apartments. I am of Mexican decent, and I'll admit the problem comes from all these Mexicans/Salvadorians who come here and let their kids run wild in the streets cause their so busy trying to make rent money and put food on the table. However,they suck as parents, yet they are quick to blame others for their failures. If this keeps up this side of the valley is going to end up looking like panorama city.
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Sylamar Dude,

I agree. While gangs can occur with all ethnicities, the primary problem is the hispanic population. It is interesting you say it is going to look like Panorama City, because that's what I was thinking.

In large part, these are the offspring of illegal immigrants, or Anchor babies. The people claim turf, but their parents don't pay taxes and they suck off the system.

There will be a crackdown at some point. I am counting on blacks to help with this. Blacks are being displaced by illegals that don't belong here. Meanwhile, our gas prices, produce, etc, is shooting up and our kids are getting fat. Why don't we have our children do the lawns like it used to be an loose that weight.

Americans are selling out their own people. But, just wait, in about 2-5 years, there will be a crackdown. It's already happening. There are immigration raids happening more and more.

I love to see a diverse police force. I like to see blacks, whites, and some good hispanics that will do all they can to rid our neighborhood of these people who are killing our citizens.

I am sorry, but America is the best country in the world and we earned the title. Yes, Mexican come over here and fly the flag, thinking "this is Mexico, it was stolen". Well, you can't just loose a war, have America build up the land, and come back and take it.

It's not going to happen.

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Man, when my grandma bought a condo in Sylmar, the area was nice about 6 or 7 years ago. Now you got all these thugs, hanging around the neighborhood, and breaking into homes and apartments. I am of Mexican decent, and I'll admit the problem comes from all these Mexicans/Salvadorians who come here and let their kids run wild in the streets cause their so busy trying to make rent money and put food on the table. However,they suck as parents, yet they are quick to blame others for their failures. If this keeps up this side of the valley is going to end up looking like panorama city.
Of mexican decent myself and like you i am sick of these hispanic gangbangers taking over our cities.

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Sylamar Dude,
I agree. While gangs can occur with all ethnicities, the primary problem is the hispanic population. It is interesting you say it is going to look like Panorama City, because that's what I was thinking.
In large part, these are the offspring of illegal immigrants, or Anchor babies. The people claim turf, but their parents don't pay taxes and they suck off the system.
There will be a crackdown at some point. I am counting on blacks to help with this. Blacks are being displaced by illegals that don't belong here. Meanwhile, our gas prices, produce, etc, is shooting up and our kids are getting fat. Why don't we have our children do the lawns like it used to be an loose that weight.
Americans are selling out their own people. But, just wait, in about 2-5 years, there will be a crackdown. It's already happening. There are immigration raids happening more and more.
I love to see a diverse police force. I like to see blacks, whites, and some good hispanics that will do all they can to rid our neighborhood of these people who are killing our citizens.
I am sorry, but America is the best country in the world and we earned the title. Yes, Mexican come over here and fly the flag, thinking "this is Mexico, it was stolen". Well, you can't just loose a war, have America build up the land, and come back and take it.
It's not going to happen.
Sick of the hispanic gangs myself but to say that the black gangs need to do something about it will just make matters worse. We need to do something about it, and take our cities back from gangs of all races.
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State Rn,

Let me clarify. I did not mean to say that blacks need to take care of it. What I am saying is that I am counting of blacks to step up because while crimes are being committed against whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, etc, there is no denying that black and brown fighting is going up.

So, I am counting on this community, not to fight with guns and knives back, but to lead the way. To transform black gangbangers and aid everyone in leading a more positive lifestyle.

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State Rn,
Let me clarify. I did not mean to say that blacks need to take care of it. What I am saying is that I am counting of blacks to step up because while crimes are being committed against whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, etc, there is no denying that black and brown fighting is going up.
So, I am counting on this community, not to fight with guns and knives back, but to lead the way. To transform black gangbangers and aid everyone in leading a more positive lifestyle.
Thanks for the clarification. I agree we all need to step up. But working in a prison I see we are up against someting that is spreading like a cancer to many cities. The first place to start would be tougher laws. Some guys go in there and are doing half the time they would have 10 years ago for the same crime due to over crowding. They wear prison tatoos like badges of honor so it seems that talking to them is almost impossible, gang lifestyle is glorified. I see many women bring there kids in baggy clothes dressed like gangbangers to visit there husbands in jail. If the parents are not willing to stop the cycle knowing where they could end up then who can?
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Let me start with this, I don't hate hispanics. However, we need to solve this illegal immigration problem. You are saying we need to have tougher laws, but we don't even enforce the one we have.

I am telling you, we need to get rd of those that are illegal from any country and change our policies regarding anchor babies.

It's interesting, I have a friend that was born in Canada while his mother was there visiting family. He cannot be a Canadian citizen by virtue of being born on thet land. I think we need to remind this population how great the US is and how lucky they are to even have made it here.

I have some sympathy foe their plight. But, we should not reward law breakers.

If you are not documented, it is hard to enforce laws against you. I can say, it is harder to buy a gun legally than it is for criminals.

When are people going to wake up and realize that this particular way of life (which in southern Cali) is not acceptable but is a cancer that many hispanics carry?
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I love you guyz.
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I have family of Mexican descent through marriage. They sure don't like what's going on. But not one has give a voice to it or support deportation! All this does is make them look bad to the rest of us. It's the same thing with the Middle Eastener's, how much to you heard from them about the BAD Muslims. Not one word. Makes us wonder...who's side are you really on???

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Let me start with this, I don't hate hispanics. However, we need to solve this illegal immigration problem. You are saying we need to have tougher laws, but we don't even enforce the one we have.
I am telling you, we need to get rd of those that are illegal from any country and change our policies regarding anchor babies.
It's interesting, I have a friend that was born in Canada while his mother was there visiting family. He cannot be a Canadian citizen by virtue of being born on thet land. I think we need to remind this population how great the US is and how lucky they are to even have made it here.
I have some sympathy foe their plight. But, we should not reward law breakers.
If you are not documented, it is hard to enforce laws against you. I can say, it is harder to buy a gun legally than it is for criminals.
When are people going to wake up and realize that this particular way of life (which in southern Cali) is not acceptable but is a cancer that many hispanics carry?
sadly you are right. We need to enforce tougher immigration laws. We need to make harder to apple for welfare. If you haven't paid taxes then you shouldn't be able to get welfare if you are an able bodied individual. People have forgotten that welfare was started as a helping hand not a handout.
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denny wrote:
I have family of Mexican descent through marriage. They sure don't like what's going on. But not one has give a voice to it or support deportation! All this does is make them look bad to the rest of us. It's the same thing with the Middle Eastener's, how much to you heard from them about the BAD Muslims. Not one word. Makes us wonder...who's side are you really on???
dude, in my family I can be considered the bad guy for even voicing my opinion about all this crap. Same thing at work. Hell, I used to go to Mission College in Sylmar, and that place has been taken over by MECHA, or whatever they are called, and they intimidate faculty and students who don't share their views. It's even worst if you are of hispanic descent. For some damn reason the illegals and their supporters are willing to keep the bad guyz around as long as they too are illegals or have family or relatives who are. Like they always say on their spanich language news casts, the more of them there are the stronger they are.
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<quoted text> sadly you are right. We need to enforce tougher immigration laws. We need to make harder to apple for welfare. If you haven't paid taxes then you shouldn't be able to get welfare if you are an able bodied individual. People have forgotten that welfare was started as a helping hand not a handout.
you got that right
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You will see. There is a revolt going on behind the scenes with the police and the people. The illegals are going and the ones that stay will have limited say.
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May 3, 2008
 
If America was serious about cracking down on illegals then they would have taken issue up with the companies that hire them! Instead they use the imigration raids as pure cosmetics, they show it all to the news and the news reports it and everybody is happy. That in fact is pretty much USELESS. Like it or not (I myself am split on this issue) illegals are going to be around. Only when we remove the corruption from America then can we enforce laws that benefit us.
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dude, in my family I can be considered the bad guy for even voicing my opinion about all this crap. Same thing at work. Hell, I used to go to Mission College in Sylmar, and that place has been taken over by MECHA, or whatever they are called, and they intimidate faculty and students who don't share their views. It's even worst if you are of hispanic descent. For some damn reason the illegals and their supporters are willing to keep the bad guyz around as long as they too are illegals or have family or relatives who are. Like they always say on their spanich language news casts, the more of them there are the stronger they are.
http://www.bruinalumni.com/antonio/antonioind...

Antonio Villaraigosa (then, Tony Villar) leading a protest to include the Communist organization "Committee to Free Los Tres" on the Steering Committee of the Chicano Studies Center. UCLA campus, May 23, 1974.

Antonio Villaraigosa, a one-time juvenile delinquent still tattooed with the slogan “Born to Raise Hell,” entered the UCLA campus as a transfer student from East Los Angeles Community College in 1972. Known then simply as Tony Villar, he would not successfully graduate by the time he left in 1975.(1) But Villar did leave a wide swath of influence in other, more radical ways.

While on campus, Villar joined the UCLA chapter of Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan (MEChA), and was part of its leadership by 1974. MEChA had only been founded as a regional movement in 1969, and in many ways, the UCLA chapter, and the radical Chicano student left today, is a direct product of Villar’s work then.
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May 3, 2008
 
Hello everyone,lets not forget we are all imagrents of some kind,irsh,italian,jewish swedish etc,the only true rightful people of this land is the indinas cherrokee,etc before the hispanices thought cailfornia ,texas was theres to have.I guess we are all going to have to be deportad back to were we came from and give this land back to the indians.
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First of all I was born here I took nothing from anybody. It's all well and good if you have a guilt complex but i don't. This is my country and I'm not going any where. I did nothing to the Indians so I feel no guilt. Sure races get messed over but not by me. So give back what you want to but I'm keeping all my land, my stuff, my history.

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Pony wrote:
First of all I was born here I took nothing from anybody. It's all well and good if you have a guilt complex but i don't. This is my country and I'm not going any where. I did nothing to the Indians so I feel no guilt. Sure races get messed over but not by me. So give back what you want to but I'm keeping all my land, my stuff, my history.
Pony might need your help on the gangmembers accussed in stbbing or soething like. Real moron in the forum your good with morons i love the way you cut them short. Hope to see you there
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