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6 Not yet proved to the status of a scientific certainty, but there is NO evidence to the contrary. While there was some abuse committed by 'homosexual' priests, much like in the general population, the vast majority of abuse was committed by those who identified as heterosexual. The Catholic Church found that out more than a year ago, try and keep up with reality. http://old.usccb.org/mr/causes-and-context-of... What it isn't buttercup is inherently unsafe. People have been engaging in anal sex since before recorded history, male on male, male on female and even female on male with suitable attachments, the world has yet to end as a result. Anal sex can be engaged in safely without physical or medical consequences and millions have done so. You mean you've been screaming about that damn Little Black Book for months now and you never actually bothered to read it? Sheesh. Like any other sexual acts involving human beings, such acts can be engaged in in ways which make any risk infinitesimally small. You and your phallus fascination. Dear, you see all sorts of 'symbols' at pride parades, we are an incredibly diverse community. You can point in mock horror at all those that offend you, but the reality is pride parades are all about pride. Do all those who attend or participate get that, no, but in any group you'll always find some who didn't get the message. Well Lesbians aren't, they aren't attracted to any males. Some are, some aren't. |
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6 No, they haven't, but it is their decision to make, not mine, not yours. Our responsibility as a community is to encourage them to find a different path in life and to arm them with the best possible information to protect themselves while they find that path, not just condemn them and condemn them to ignorance. Actually dear, you and your equally irrational and factually challenged friends over at MassResistance have never proved anything more than 5 years ago, this pamphlet was available. Heck, you haven't offered anything which can be confused with proof that this anything more than a five year old story. It's clear that the material was written with an older audience in mind, but IF a 14 year old to see it, fortunately they are in a counseling setting where there are qualified people to discuss it with them. I don't know of anyone, other than him of course, who believes he was. I can say with a great deal of confidence that virtually all in the Gay Community feels justice was done in his case and the monster got not nearly what he deserved. Are you offering proof that he had sexual relations with ADULT males in addition to the boys he molested? If not, the idea of him being anything more than a heterosexual with a very serious problem hasn't changed. In this country, due to the nature of the virus which predominates in this country, that is the case. Female to male transmission is unlikely due to the virus's need to make direct contact with the blood stream for transmission to take place. In some parts of the world, the form of the virus needs only contact with mucous membranes for transmission to occur, which is why, in sub-Saharan Africa for example, the primary transmission method is heterosexual sex because female to male transmission is far more likely. The available evidence is that being 'gay' is the result of biological and/or genetic factors, not being taught about the homosexuals around them. So no, there is absolutely no way to make someone Gay who isn't already. I mean look at the absolute failure of so-called conversion therapies, you can't make Straight from Gay and you people have been trying a lot longer and a heck of a lot harder. So what makes you imagine that we would be any more successful than you haven't been in swaying us. Anything would be a nice change of pace for you. You just asked twelve questions that indicate that you are truthful about NOTHING. |
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8 You obviously didn't read the referenced article. It said there's no solid evidence supporting the "born this way" theory of genetic or biological homosexuality. This means your supposed suspect class is nothing more than an ordinary group of men and women claiming to be something they can't support with evidence. In other words, they have no more legal standing than a fellow claiming he's a little green man from mars. |
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5 Wow, you really Are an idiot, aren't you? Can you offer any rational reason to deny same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry? I doubt your ability to do so. |
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6 I have never made a suspect class argument. That is your inept defense. I have argued equal protection as PERSONS, which renders nature vs nurture irrelevant. Idiot. |
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6 Being Gay or Lesbian is as innate as being Straight is.....that's been proven time and time again. Pedophiles are not HOMOSEXUAL OR HETEROSEXUAL......they have an orientation towards children......that has also been proven time and time again. Anal Sex is safe when proper precautions are taken....but it can be considered a high risk practice if not done safely. Rimming and Golden Showers are known as fetishes....and are practiced by heterosexuals as well. Gay Pride Parades are about expressing one's self.....and your new term has NEVER replaced the Rainbow Flag as our symbol of Pride. Who ever stated Gays were not attracted to straight men? Being attracted has nothing to do with acting on that attraction. Please provide evidence to back up your claim on #7. Again, that has already been explained to you and if you'd stop believing Mass Resistance.....you'd might know the truth on that. Interesting, do you have ACTUAL EVIDENCE or just accusations for #9? Jerry Sandusky is married, and NO WHERE has ever claimed to be Gay.......what this proves is that he has always been a Pedophile who is also a Child Molester......nothing more!!! The fact is that HIV is higher in Gay men......but that number is STRICTLY an ESTIMATE because we really don't know what the number is among heterosexual men. EXACTLY, there is NO WAY THAT UNDERSTAND HOMOSEXUALITY WILL CHANGE FOLKS TO BECOME HOMOSEXUALS THEMSELVES......and unless you have evidence to back that up....NO ONE IS GOING TO BELIEVE YOU. |
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6 The only straight morons that I am aware of are the ones who oppose equality for same sex couples. The only screwball logic is of those who assume that only Gay men molest boys. The Abel and Harlow study is just one of a number of studies which have proved that the majority of men who molest boys are straight. If people don't want to believe the facts, that is their problem. Just as there are heterosexual men who molest boys, there are likely homosexual men who molest girls, simply because that is the sex of victim available to them and most such crimes are crimes of opportunity rather than planning. This coming from the individual who continually cites the anti-Gay hate group MassResistance as an authority, you are proof of your own point. You believe any damn lie you are told about us as if someone were preaching the Gospel. Dear,'homosexual acts' don't require the participation of anyone who identifies as homosexual. There's no need to spin, engaging in 'homosexual acts' is not proof of the homosexuality of those engaging in them, or any same sex attraction whatsoever for that matter. Again dear, you are making an assumption for which there is no proof whatsoever. Unless you are offering evidence that Jerry Sandusky has adult same sex attractions, claiming that he is homosexual is not supported by the evidence. How and why preferences develop among pedophiles is not well understood, but what is understood is that such preferences aren't connected to their adult sexual orientation if any. As for Gay men lining up to adopt young boys to molest, since Gay men have been adopting for a couple of decades now, anecdotal evidence just doesn't cut it. Isolated incidents prove NOTHING. Cupcake, again, Lesbians and Gays have been allowed to adopt in most states for more than twenty years now, where is the evidence beyond isolated incidents signifying nothing but bad individuals (you know, like heterosexuals who molest their adopted children)? As far as NAMBLA is concerned, it hasn't really existed as anything much more than a figment of the anti-Gay imagination since the early 90's. All you have offered here is unsubstantiated paranoia to promote your irrational anti-Gay agenda. If this is really the best you can offer, give it up and seek professional counseling. |
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7 just like they will kill oslamacare they will send you back to your clos |
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6 SCOTUS may kill some of the Healthcare plan of President Obama.....but I'm not sure they will kill all of it, but they could.......as for sending me or any Gay or Lesbian person back to the closet....THEY DON'T HAVE THAT SORT OF POWER OR CONTROL!!! It a real shame that you are the way you are. |
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8 they only need to kill any of it and oslamacare will go the way of the dinosaurs and SSM Yes they do They can and will define marriages as a civil union between a man and a woman |
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8 I told you this would happen years ago And we thank the rose ho as he has been a great help |
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8 Honestly, Rick, I don't know why I waste my time responding to someone who makes moronic statements like yours directly above. First of all only an idiot would say something is so because there is no evidence to say it isn't so. How about watermelon seeds get women pregnant because there's no evidence showing they don't? How do you know there's no evidence showing they don't? What you mean is YOU have no evidence showing they don't. In other words, only an idiot frames a claim the way you do above. I suppose you pick it up in the gay bars then bring it here. Meanwhile, it doesn't stop you from telling us children are born gay and this can't be changed. And you do tell us that, don't you, Rick? http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do...
I was going to answer your claims one by one, Rick, but this second one -- like the first one -- is so brain-numbingly stupid, I'll end tete-a-tete here. First off, you continue to quote improperly. This is a basic skill learned in high school but you still can't get it right -- when quoting you're supposed to include the page number of the document. You don't do this. You give links to a book or research paper without telling us where in the source you pull out the quote. Then you gloat and preen when this is brought to your attention -- you accuse the person asking you about it as being too lazy to read the entire tract when the real problem is you're too stupid to grasp how to quote properly. Secondly, what exactly is meant when it is said the priests were "heterosexual not homosexual"? Does that actually mean something intelligible to you? If we learned a priest who's been secretly having sex with women for years claimed to be homosexual, would you believe him? Wouldn't the logical thing to do be judge him by his actions not his words? Priests caught having sex with boys are priests caught having homosexual sex. Why would you allow the priest define himself as heterosexual afterward? Doesn't the fact that he was caught having sex with a boy give cause to doubt it? Indeed, doesn't the fact that he was caught having sex with a boy dent his credibility in your mind just a little? Too sum up, Rick, you're too stupid for me to spend any more time with. There are limits, you know. |
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7 First of all I don't open links from people I don't know, ESPCIALLY from gay men. I respond honestly it's just that you can't handle the truth. Your resposes are like all the other gay men in this thread. If you don't agree ... too bad |
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8 Romans 1:27 And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved. They will be punished. |
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6 And what are you claiming that the musings of this graduate student prove exactly? The reality is this, science has been trying to identify the causalities of homosexuality and same sex attraction for more than a century now, we have been offered all sorts of theories which have yet to have any substantiation whatsoever. The ONLY theories for which ANY evidence has been found have been the ones rooted in biology and/or genetics. As for telling young Gay people that they were born that way and that converting to heterosexuality is out of the question, there is empirical evidence to support both parts of that statement. Do you wanna try and prove me wrong, or isn't that kind of information not available from your friends at MassResistance? Thank you for admitting that you are unable to refute anything I said in response to your other questions even before you failed in refuting my response to your second question, it just saves so much time. Dear, I did not quote from the John Jay study on the Causes and Context of the Abuse, I offered it in its entirety as proof of just how little you know about the subject you have just prattled on endlessly about. Once again moron,'homosexual sex' does NOT REQUIRE THE PARTICIPATION OF ANYONE WHO IS HOMOSEXUAL OR EVEN REMOTELY SAME SEX ATTRACTED. The Catholic Church maintained extensive records on Priests and others accused of abuse in the Church, including psychological evaluations. It wasn't simply a matter of after the fact of so-called 'homosexual sex' they declared themselves to be heterosexual, the proof is there if you actually bothered to take the time to read what has been given to you. The overwhelming majority of abuse were crimes of opportunity in a Church culture which put these men in contact almost exclusively with young boys. It wasn't about being homosexual or even same sex attracted, it was about boys being in the wrong place at the wrong time with a man who acted out on his sexual urges when no one else was available to satisfy them. |
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8 Then why do you not provide a cite instead of the same gay bar urban legend time and time again? Here's my cite: http://isites.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do... You're purposefully misrepresenting the science. Boys over 13 not the same as prepubescent boys. Sandusky and the Catholic priests molested pubescent boys, not tots or babies in cradles. All you're doing is blurring the distinction to eliminate the homosexual component. You want us to believe the sex of the victim meant nothing to Sandusky or the priests -- that had they access to girls, they'd have abused them too. It's the kind of deception you fellows misrepresentation in all the time. In fact, it's exactly how you gain unfettered access to teenage boys. Mostly, though -- like all your BS claims -- its gay bar urban legend not supported by an iota of scientific research. Not according to Dr. John R. Diggs: http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/hom... Besides HIV Dr. Diggs lists these dangers: Anal Cancer Chlamydia trachomatis Cryptosporidium Giardia lamblia Herpes simplex virus Human immunodeficiency virus Human papilloma virus Isospora belli Microsporidia Gonorrhea Viral hepatitis types B & C Syphilis25 Dr. Diggs makes the point that even with condoms anal sex is high risk due to condom failure. But here again, RNL -- where are your cites? I've given you mine; let's see yours. According to The Little Black Book these degrading practices and others are standard homosexual practices. The booklet was approved by several gay-run youth health agencies in Massachusetts. The booklet was partly funded by federal and state taxes. The booklet was handed out to children as young as 14 at Cambridge youth drop in center. And of course the booklet was placed on a display table at that high school youth conference in Brookline. All this points to these practices being mainstream homosexual practices. What evidence do you have showing they're mainstream hetero practices? And please, provide cites instead of gay bar urban legend. (more on next page...) |
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8 I disagree and so does the Catholic Church in Chicago who found the gay pride parade there so shameful and degrading it asked the City to forbid it during church hours on Sunday. But suppose we let the readers judge for themselves. All one need do is Google "gay pride parade" then select images. You mean the gays lying on the beach at Fire Island taking on all comers draw the line when a straight-looking guy flips out his cock? Also, why do man-boy sex sites like rent-a-boy use the words "straight-looking boys" as an advertising pitch? You mean people born with your supposed gay gene must claim to be gay to actually be gay? You're not making any sense here. You're questioning the CDC's measurement models and that's something you're not qualified to do. You don't have any evidence to back up your claim and straight morons who support same sex marriage believe you. |
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6 Your paranoia isn't my problem cupcake, you are still a moron. I am the one who provided YOU with the truth (which you were too afraid to look at, or look up yourself), so why in the name of rationality would you be claiming that I am the one who cannot handle it? And buttercup, your responses are just like every other clueless f*cking moron who hates the f*gs, but can't prove anything we say to be wrong: intellectually challenged, immature and just plain bitchy. My suggestion is to pop a handful of Midol and don't get back to me until you have something intelligent to say. |
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7 Dayam ... lol I can just picture you now wearing high heel slippers, micro short skin tight lime green spandex shorts and a purple halter top and bright red lip stick OH and wearing a bright red-orange wig and sipping a martini, yuk. sorry the way you express yourself give you away. LMAO |
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