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Bridge must be razed

Full story: Brattleboro Reformer

Closed suddenly last month amid safety concerns, a bridge connecting New York and Vermont is too badly deteriorated to repair and must be replaced, officials announced Monday.

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Prof Marley

Amherst, NH

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Nov 11, 2009
 
Wonder when the Brattleboro, VT - Hinsdale, NH bridge
will be determined "too badly deteriorated to repair and
must be replaced"?
The bridge has been re-re-re-repaired many times.
I personally believe that the bridge should be put on
a red-line status and hope officials can cope with how to
replace it.
flat lander

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Nov 12, 2009
 

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I agree with you since I don't use it and would have to pay taxes for it besides who would want to go over there anyway
New Clear Waste

Brattleboro, VT

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Nov 12, 2009
 
Ever look up at the rust on the I-91 bridge over the West River, as you pass under it on Route 30? When they eventually replace it, that's going to cause one beauty of a traffic problem, with out-of-staters trying to get off at Exit 2 and back on at Exit 3 or vice-versa.
flat lander

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Nov 12, 2009
 
N C W do you pray while driving or just star gazing during the day. what goes up must come down but not as pretty
mike mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

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Nov 12, 2009
 
Prof Marley wrote:
Wonder when the Brattleboro, VT - Hinsdale, NH bridge
will be determined "too badly deteriorated to repair and
must be replaced"?
The bridge has been re-re-re-repaired many times.
I personally believe that the bridge should be put on
a red-line status and hope officials can cope with how to
replace it.
Rust and deterioration is the not the problem, eyeballed it myself....it is just a obsolete design. That is not to say the bridge metal members have been over flexed over the years and begging to be fractured.

Relatively the Hinsdale bridge doesn’t have a lot of rust...but there is some small amount.
Sad

Hudson Falls, NY

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Nov 12, 2009
 
This is very scary
Prof Marley

Merrimack, NH

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Nov 15, 2009
 
Given: "deterioration is not the problem"---yes, Mr. Mulligan, you are correct. And I agree that your observations of the underside of the bridge in question is---visually---accurate, but only to the degree that you are not the certified, trained, experienced, materially-equipped, bridge inspector for the State, whose office and authoritative capacity is the designated and final, ultimate, decision-maker. Even though there is "some deterioration", the age of the bridge, which has outlived others by comparison---plus the "re-re-re-repairments " that have taken place over the years have only infused a few more months/years of life to a bridge that has become very dangerously obsolete to modern traffic usage. This is only buying time, but the problem(s) will multiply within time.
Again, I feel it is imperative to the public safety ---"the bridge should be put on a red-line status and I hope officials can cope with how to replace it".
Our forefathers visualized a great country in the making.
Why don't we try to visualize something, now, here, and in a more positive, objective, constructive, and communicative manner---without further criticism and/or attacks on any individual?????
Take an image of the Chesterfield-Brattleboro bridge, and replace the present bridge with that image between Hinsdale-Brattleboro. Then build an overpass over the railroad tracks at a level with the intersection that I prefer to call "Complex A" (not the insulting 'malfunction junction' that is so popular with a few:)---

What do you see?
How easy does travel begin to be?
Here in the land of the FREE?
Then,'Oh no' some will have to say,
A new bridge?---to make better, a way?
Taxes for it---we will have to pay.
Never!---so we think of excuses shielding
As behind the little brick {abandoned] building:
'Disturb not coal-tar deposits' in the river that be
Lest the river, polluted, as deposits come free.
---for the little [abandoned] brick building
must hold also some history of the 'free'?
[[[ As you have just read---I am not a poet ]]].
I believe (with a little visualization) this ancient mess CAN be cleaned up safely---but it would be very costly---and MONEY my friend, Mr. Mulligan, MONEY "IS THE PROBLEM".
No one can deny that the longer it takes to replace that bridge---the more it will cost---not just MONEY--but it may entail human lives in the "cost", also.
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

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Nov 15, 2009
 
The expert class has been severely politicized and compromised...they use the civil engineers to talk us into the rust and the deteriorating cement and foundation means nothing.
bridge

Crown Point, NY

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Nov 15, 2009
 
the bridge has sat there rusting for years not sure why action wasn't taken over the years there has been many times dot has been working on that bridge, had lanes blocked,flag men, stoplights, etc. examined it. stop light there all summer just to close it anyways maybe should have saved all that $ they used to pay people to be on that bridge all summer doing surveys and "construction"
Mike Mulligan

Brattleboro, VT

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Nov 15, 2009
 

Since: Nov 07

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Nov 21, 2009
 

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Hey APA......

we should make a list of infrastructure needs, how much of a down payment your "livelihoods" we could expect to use for these projects.

AFTER ALL.......

Just Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o many people just want to hear da howwwwwwwliiiiiiiiiiiiing in DA WOODS (of the kidnapped wolves from Canada).

Although we do have wolves and coyotes already.

WOWSERS.......

LET'S MAKE A "TO DO" LIST.......

I'll start.......

CELL TOWERS

ROADS

PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION

INFRASTRUCTURE.....

Hey EVERYONE KEEP ADDING!!!

Oh yes.... and also add in the salary of the Yayhoo Bridge inspector that inspeced the bridge when that bridge collapsed in the Midwest.

HAVE HIM and one of the "granola crunchers" go onto the bridge, saw off a piece.... grab the plaque,and detach one of the light poles.

HEY, IT COULD GO TO THE STATE MUSEUM IN ALBANY.

Put in the "stuffed wolves" section, or make it a new display of extinct species.

You know.... right along the side of carrier pidgeons......

AND COMMON FRIGGEN SENSE!!!

I think it's one HELLUVA Idea!!

(news at eleven)
rushme

East Chatham, NY

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Sunday Nov 29
 
did you ever think the use of salt during winter over a period of yrs is to blame? good thing a concerned person decided to close the bottomless suspension. i should think there are more bad bridges, look at most roads-sidewalks all damaged by salt.
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