Paterson says gay marriage bill will pass

HBIC wrote:

Good for Patterson!!!
Again I say no one has the right to dictate who people can love!

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I don't think one who opposes gay marriage is dictating who people can love.

We just don't want gay people shoving their lifestyle on the Christian culture.

Marriage in this country derived from Christianity and the traditions and rituals are of the Christian culture.

I do support giving gays and all people the right to have a legal union just like a traditional marriage.

They should be able to file taxes together, adopt children to create a family, and have the same assumptions of power of attorney over each other just like a traditional marriage.

What gays shouldn't have a right to is to make a church marry them.

I don't know the specifics of thís bill but that is the way it should be.

Whatever wrote:

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I don't think one who opposes gay marriage is dictating who people can love.
We just don't want gay people shoving their lifestyle on the Christian culture.
Marriage in this country derived from Christianity and the traditions and rituals are of the Christian culture.

Incorrect – There are many cultures and religions in our country. Have been forever. You can get married in America by a judge or town clerks and never have the word god mention during the ceremony. A legal marriage in American does not have anything to do with religion unless the people getting married want to include it in their ceremony. and guess what…it has always been that way. FYI – Jewish people get married every day in American…pretty sure that their ceremony isn’t derived from Christianity and the traditions and rituals are of the Christian culture.

Whatever wrote:

<quoted text>I do support giving gays and all people the right to have a legal union just like a traditional marriage.
They should be able to file taxes together, adopt children to create a family, and have the same assumptions of power of attorney over each other just like a traditional marriage.

So you are saying its ok if they are treated “almost” as equals.

Whatever wrote:

<quoted text>What gays shouldn't have a right to is to make a church marry them.

I am pretty sure that whether you are gay or straight, you don’t have the right to make a church marry you. The church can, has and always will have the right to decline.

Whatever wrote:

<quoted text>I don't know the specifics of thís bill but that is the way it should be.

You’re not alone here reading though this thread, it is clear that many don’t understand what the real issues is. But it is interesting that you admit you don’t know the specifics, but then are willing to tell us all how it “should be.”

Truth be told wrote:

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You’re not alone here reading though this thread, it is clear that many don’t understand what the real issues is. But it is interesting that you admit you don’t know the specifics, but then are willing to tell us all how it “should be.”

O-great One please tell us what the real issue is, we hang on your every word so please enlighten us...

one question if, if i dare o all knowing truth giver, why is it your still in the closet and when will you be coming out?...

1man + 1woman = MARRIAGE
say we the people!!!
DEAL WHIT IT!!!!!!!!!!

Big Rush Fan wrote:

lol, looks like Yeshua was able to find someone smarter then he is, who was able to explain it to him!
Truth...I like your postes.

sorry, but no... he never answered my question, which was what do you think our founding fathers would of said/done to a man saying he wanted to marry another man, on one answered correctly so then i post what they would of done under the laws at that time, and which still stand today, and truth be sold changed the subject as he so often does, then when you call him on it he calls you a moron (what a big boy he is)... sooooooooo i was smiply humoring him and his great big bigoted ego...
don't ya just love his post though, they're so messed up you just gotta laugh...

Do all the homophobic people on here remember the mass hysteria that surrounded the time period right before they started banning indoor smoking? Guess what; It happened anyway. Guess what else; Everyone survived it. Whether or not you agreed with the bans on smoking, you survived the bans.

You will surely survive a passing of the bill providing gay people a legal means to marry in NYS. Stop acting like you will die if it passes.

You are embarrassing yourselves. Try pulling your heads out of the dark closed little places you call your minds and breath. LoL. It's ok, really! When you forget to look down, checking for that edge so you don't get to close and fall from your precious pedestals; i am sure there will be someone you haven't offended during your miserable closed-minded lives ready to catch you!!!!

aah hah hah hah ahhah hah hah.
good luck with that.

Whatever wrote:

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I don't think one who opposes gay marriage is dictating who people can love.
We just don't want gay people shoving their lifestyle on the Christian culture.
Marriage in this country derived from Christianity and the traditions and rituals are of the Christian culture.
I do support giving gays and all people the right to have a legal union just like a traditional marriage.
They should be able to file taxes together, adopt children to create a family, and have the same assumptions of power of attorney over each other just like a traditional marriage.
What gays shouldn't have a right to is to make a church marry them.
I don't know the specifics of thís bill but that is the way it should be.

dude....wait a minute... is this from the same ilk of people who shove their religion down our throats via constant vehicles? what a load of carp. lol. it's called freedom of religion obviously and that argument is piss in a river you moron. you don't open that door with a sensible argument because there is none. wow. i don't practice religion and i don't care who does. it won't hurt me if they do. just as sexual orientation of other people will not hurt me. wow.

that argument would be the same as , "oh NO!!! look mable!!!! 2 people of the same sex walking hand in hand!!!!! i am going to die!!!!! no no no no!!!!!!!
now WE HAVE TO BE GAY!!!! NO NO NO!!! we saw it, so we are forever damaged!!!! "

are you normally this fecking dumb, or do you have to work at it

sarcastic little jerk wrote:

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dude....wait a minute... is this from the same ilk of people who shove their religion down our throats via constant vehicles? what a load of carp. lol. it's called freedom of religion obviously and that argument is **** in a river you moron. you don't open that door with a sensible argument because there is none. wow. i don't practice religion and i don't care who does. it won't hurt me if they do. just as sexual orientation of other people will not hurt me. wow.
that argument would be the same as , "oh NO!!! look mable!!!! 2 people of the same sex walking hand in hand!!!!! i am going to die!!!!! no no no no!!!!!!!
now WE HAVE TO BE GAY!!!! NO NO NO!!! we saw it, so we are forever damaged!!!! "
are you normally this fecking dumb, or do you have to work at it

"oh NO!!! look mable another moron just showed up.

Truth be told wrote:

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"oh NO!!! look mable another moron just showed up.

I log on this morning to finalize my fantasy football roster, and make my football picks. My home page opens up to WNYT. So I get in on this and other threads I have been reading along with. I see this post by Truth be told. I think wow; this seems like a weird post by him. So I look into it by doing a little pinging here and a little pinging there.
Turns out that this post was made by Yeshua. And so I wonder has we done this before? Turns out, yes he has. Other names Yeshua has posted under are Devvy, rushme, Big Rush Fan, and I’m sure there are others. I also took some time to look at some of these posts he made under these names. Guess what I saw? The bible thumbing, holier than thou Yeshua is the guy making all of the mean, hateful posts that show up under these people's names.

So take note folks...ignore as you see fit.

Jim S wrote:

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I log on this morning to finalize my fantasy football roster, and make my football picks. My home page opens up to WNYT. So I get in on this and other threads I have been reading along with. I see this post by Truth be told. I think wow; this seems like a weird post by him. So I look into it by doing a little pinging here and a little pinging there.
Turns out that this post was made by Yeshua. And so I wonder has we done this before? Turns out, yes he has. Other names Yeshua has posted under are Devvy, rushme, Big Rush Fan, and I’m sure there are others. I also took some time to look at some of these posts he made under these names. Guess what I saw? The bible thumbing, holier than thou Yeshua is the guy making all of the mean, hateful posts that show up under these people's names.
So take note folks...ignore as you see fit.

your right on one account, i did post one time as truth be told and that's it... and if you happen to have noticed somebody's been posting with my name Yeshua as well...

sorry truth be told...

and i'm sorry for some of my other post that may seem rude, no excuse, but i'm just so down by the state of the world these day and the presure is really hitting me hard, this whole gay marriage thing just totals me... i'm amazed that this is even being brought up in this world and how many people think it's ok to be gay, well if that what you wanta think so be it... i guess all i should of realy done was pray that some of you may come to know the truth of God, please don't look at me as someone who's suppost to be perfect sence i'm a Christian, i'm flesh and blood, just a wretch saved by God's grace, don't look at me look at Him...

sorry again, and with that i'll leave you...

peace, out......... <><

what a way to end this thread...

Well...at the least Gay Marriage will boost the Wedding Industry in the state and help out Hotels, Restaurants and catering companies. Probably won't help the churches too much

Their business will be fine.
It's recession proof!

"You don't get rich writing science fiction. If you want to get rich, you start a religion."

L. Ron Hubbard – 1948

Four years later he founded Church of Scientology.

Estimated net worth in 1982 =$200,000,000.00

If we can't descriminate against gay people anymore, that doesn't leave us much left to hate...Yeshua, is there any other group that the bible says we can't treat like sh1t?

Truth be told wrote:

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Incorrect – There are many cultures and religions in our country. Have been forever. You can get married in America by a judge or town clerks and never have the word god mention during the ceremony. A legal marriage in American does not have anything to do with religion unless the people getting married want to include it in their ceremony. and guess what…it has always been that way. FYI – Jewish people get married every day in American…pretty sure that their ceremony isn’t derived from Christianity and the traditions and rituals are of the Christian culture.
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So you are saying its ok if they are treated “almost” as equals.
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I am pretty sure that whether you are gay or straight, you don’t have the right to make a church marry you. The church can, has and always will have the right to decline.
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You’re not alone here reading though this thread, it is clear that many don’t understand what the real issues is. But it is interesting that you admit you don’t know the specifics, but then are willing to tell us all how it “should be.”

Regarding being a Christain country:

The New England colonists were largely Puritans, who led very strict lives.
The Middle colonists were a mixture of religions, including Quakers (led by William Penn), Catholics, Lutherans, Jews, and others.
The Southern colonists had a mixture of religions as well, including Baptists and Anglicans.

That sounds pretty Christian to me.

Regarding having equal rights -- I can't see how you can interpret me as saying homosexuals shouldn't have equal rights.

I wittnessed two women holding hands as a display of their orientation while walking up to take communion once.

It was obvious they were making a political statement for the purpose of embarrassing the church.

It was obvious that the minister and his wife were very privy of the situation even more so than the congregation.

Church is a house. It is personal. They shouldn't have to deal with that anymore than you should have to have a policeman come into your home and tell you what you can or can not do.

No they can't stop Homosexuals from doing certain things without the risk of getting sued or at least the of litigation.

Most homosexuals are decent people and wouldn't do something like that.

It is the other 5% what would have a problem even if you hung them with a new rope.

"Paterson says gay marriage bill will pass" Guess he was wrong once again...like he is on EVERYTHING.

He is now going to spend 500K a week on TV commercials for a campaign he has no possibility of winning. He would be better off donating the money to worthy causes, that would help his campaign better than angering us with his dumb commercials.