Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,321

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Ratso Rizzo

Union City, CA

#143029 May 27, 2012
Bill Of Rights wrote:
<quoted text>
Never happened,remember when that mouth is open! LOL,To bad that Alzheimer's is finally catching up to you dic head! The Mods are the one's who read the posts and then delete them so blame them! Apparently you've had a lot of them removed but don't blame me,look unto thy self! Prove it or STFU! And whats with the creepy stalking of people eh,did you do that to the X-wifey?
You open your pie hole and the lies pour out Old SniffsButt. YUK!YUK!YUK! You get your little feelings hurt and you are too stupid to respond intelligently so you lie.

Now tell us about your Bronze Star you said you were awarded in Vietnam. "V" for valor? When and why were you awarded it "Proud Vietnam Vet"? You once bragged about it here. Why so humble now?

Can't wait for your ad hominens, they're amusing but of course just a cover for your lack of any substance or cohesive argument. But I think this is one of those posts you won't even try to respond to. We'll see. YUK!YUK!YUK!

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#143030 May 27, 2012
Rational Adult wrote:
<quoted text>Hi Black Rose T-H, your information comes from NAMBLA and a child abuse site.
This is where he got his information from and the source of it, gay fool:
1. International Journal of Epidemiology, Vol 26, 657-661, "Modelling the Impact of HIV Disease on Mortality in Gay and Bisexual Men."
Yeah I'm sure that journal is sitting on your shelf. Wrong. You found that reference on the internet, BUT FOR SOME REASON you don't want to post the link, LOL.
DorN

La Puente, CA

#143031 May 27, 2012
Why do straight men want their straight wives to "go down" on them? I am not sure just what that means, but it sounds like what homosexuals do to each other.

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#143032 May 27, 2012
Rational Adult wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, gay queer, no, you gay pukes whine to the mods and then a post goes poof.
The only dick head is your dad and he dicked your butt. Your sorry gay butt is posting gray boxed, so I guess you have had a lot of your posts removed, gay puke.
No, your dad stalked you when you were 3 months old, James, and he dicked you until you turned gay. As Rose, she had the same dad and so did Mess Whitewater.
Amazing how it's the anti gays that post the gay graphic sexual comments.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#143033 May 27, 2012
KiMare wrote:
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love
If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage
If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage
If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders
If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history
If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no effect
If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships
If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity
If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent
If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act
If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end
If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest
If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none
If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'
Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
None of that makes any sense.

A good marriage is BASED on love, and many people want to formalize their marriage legally for a variety of reasons, whether they are gay or straight.

No married couple is required to recognize all committed relationships as a requirement to obtain a marriage license. Just ask straight folks. Very few support incest, child marriages, or polygamy, and yet they are allowed to marry. Gay couples are no different.

Yes, gay people are claiming all of the benefits of marriage. As they should. Loving your family makes folks do things like that.

No one is "redundant" in a marriage. Everyone is different, and brings different strengths and weaknesses to the union.

Civil marriage is unrelated to the religious idea of marriage, for legal purposes. Many Christian denominations, however, have no issue with marrying gay couples.

Marriage is a building block of society because it supports stronger and more secure families, and having MORE secure families will only strengthen society. The plumbing of those involved isn't an issue.

No one is asking for any change in "crucial distinctions". Just the right to have one's family legally recognized. It happens all the time.

We already answered the "redundant sexuality" one. Trying to word it in a different way to increase the length of your argument is illogical.

No one denies a child parents by becoming a caring parent, and there is ample evidence that having married parents is better for kids. Can you prove that having forcible unmarried parents is better for kids? Provide stats and studies, please. There is also ample evidence that gay couples are just as successful at raising great kids as straight couples are.

Gay people and straight people engage in the same sexual acts. Please explain why you are only concerned when you imagine gay folks having sex? Do you ask your straight friends is they enjoy any types of sex that are non-procreative? Do you support their marriages if they do?

If those who do not procreate should not be allowed to marry because they are a "genetic dead end", please explain, in detail, why infertile and elderly couples are allowed to wed.

Why is marriage healthy for straight people but not healthy for gay couples?

The "sole birthplace" one doesn't make enough sense. Can you reword it in english?

The bottom line is that anyone who marriage and family life should logically support it for gay folks for all of the same reasons that straight folks engage in it.

Since: Mar 07

United States

#143034 May 27, 2012
Cheyenne277 wrote:
<quoted text>
Amazing how it's the anti gays that post the gay graphic sexual comments.
I have called them on it time and time again, with no answer.

It's creepy, really.

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#143035 May 27, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I think immorality by any orientation has negative consequences. Does that make me a bigot?
How does your argument work if you compare moral lifestyles to immoral?
Just to save time, when I say immorality, I mean a simple, non-religious,'do no harm' morality.
Risk groups for HIV from high to low:

1. Male homosexuals.
2. Female heterosexuals.
3. Male heterosexuals.
4. Female homosexuals.

Does that fit in with your morality?

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#143036 May 27, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
So SS relationships are simply redundant.
That would be a definite distinction between marriage and gay unions, right?
Where did I say same sex relationships are redundant? How could you possibly get that out of what I posted??? I was comparing sexual attraction in the genders, not even making a comparison between gays and straights.

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#143037 May 27, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
So things like minority rights and handicapped rights are a violation of equal rights for all, right?
No. Where are you getting that. Give an example.

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#143038 May 27, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
So things like minority rights and handicapped rights are a violation of equal rights for all, right?
Are you actually angry that someone in a wheelchair can get a better parking spot than you do?

Since: Mar 07

United States

#143039 May 27, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
So SS relationships are simply redundant.
That would be a definite distinction between marriage and gay unions, right?
No family is redundant. No relationship is redundant.

It's not our fault that your mind can't grasp the infinite wonder and diversity of human kind.

And really, what do you suggest for gay folks? We CAN'T be attracted to the opposite gender, and yet were were created with all of the same needs for love, and family that everyone else has. We aren't talking about a simple choice here, we are talking about how some of us are hard-wired.

Should we pretend to be otherwise, and marry straight folks in loveless marriages of convenience? Raise kids in such a toxic environment?

Would you really want that for yourself, or for one of your kids?

Should we deny the most basic human instincts for love, companionship, and family just to make you feel better about yourself?

Do you think that really makes sense?

Since: Oct 11

Beggs, OK

#143040 May 27, 2012
KiMare wrote:
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love
If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage
If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage
If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders
If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history
If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no effect
If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships
If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity
If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent
If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act
If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end
If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest
If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none
If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'
Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
Wrong, idiot. We all know what you'd say to a friend that had never heard of civil unions and asked what it meant. You'd reply "Oh it's when gays get M A R R I E D". DUH.

Marriage means two people making a commitment to spend their lives together. End of story. There's no need to invent a new word for it. We already have one. "Marriage". You just want your special rights.
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#143041 May 27, 2012
Quest wrote:
<quoted text>
None of that makes any sense.
A good marriage is BASED on love, and many people want to formalize their marriage legally for a variety of reasons, whether they are gay or straight.
No married couple is required to recognize all committed relationships as a requirement to obtain a marriage license. Just ask straight folks. Very few support incest, child marriages, or polygamy, and yet they are allowed to marry. Gay couples are no different.
Yes, gay people are claiming all of the benefits of marriage. As they should. Loving your family makes folks do things like that.
No one is "redundant" in a marriage. Everyone is different, and brings different strengths and weaknesses to the union.
Civil marriage is unrelated to the religious idea of marriage, for legal purposes. Many Christian denominations, however, have no issue with marrying gay couples.
Marriage is a building block of society because it supports stronger and more secure families, and having MORE secure families will only strengthen society. The plumbing of those involved isn't an issue.
No one is asking for any change in "crucial distinctions". Just the right to have one's family legally recognized. It happens all the time.
We already answered the "redundant sexuality" one. Trying to word it in a different way to increase the length of your argument is illogical.
No one denies a child parents by becoming a caring parent, and there is ample evidence that having married parents is better for kids. Can you prove that having forcible unmarried parents is better for kids? Provide stats and studies, please. There is also ample evidence that gay couples are just as successful at raising great kids as straight couples are.
Gay people and straight people engage in the same sexual acts. Please explain why you are only concerned when you imagine gay folks having sex? Do you ask your straight friends is they enjoy any types of sex that are non-procreative? Do you support their marriages if they do?
If those who do not procreate should not be allowed to marry because they are a "genetic dead end", please explain, in detail, why infertile and elderly couples are allowed to wed.
Why is marriage healthy for straight people but not healthy for gay couples?
The "sole birthplace" one doesn't make enough sense. Can you reword it in english?
The bottom line is that anyone who marriage and family life should logically support it for gay folks for all of the same reasons that straight folks engage in it.
Good Post. This is the best thing you can do, calmly and respectfully explain that there is no harm in same sex marriage.

When people love someone who wants to be in a same sex marriage, it is hard to impossible to oppose it. The more people come to know same sex couples the more tolerance and acceptance there will be.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#143042 May 27, 2012
Wat the Tyler wrote:
<quoted text>
why would a gay guy want to be married in a Christian church in the first place?
He most likely will not, but the potential to be a member of a Church, then sue to obtain a large sum of money might be. pull your head out of obama for a minute and figure it out.
RiccardoFire

Sacramento, CA

#143043 May 27, 2012
Cheyenne277 wrote:
<quoted text>
According to the CDC, as of 2005, they knew of not one single case of le$bain to le$bian transmitted HIV and well over 200,000 cases of women who contracted HIV through heterosexual $ex, yet for some reason, the bigots aren't on here suggesting that all straight women turn le$bian for the sake of their health and lives. Why the double standard???
The stats don't lie, the gays lying in the graves this Memorial Day weekend don't lie. Men having sex with men is not good for your health.

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#143044 May 27, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
He most likely will not, but the potential to be a member of a Church, then sue to obtain a large sum of money might be. pull your head out of obama for a minute and figure it out.
Maybe you should get your head out of homophobic hate.

A homosexual would never be a member of a church, especially one that preaches hate and intolerant towards LGBT peoples.

Since: Jan 12

Commonwealth of Pennsylvania

#143045 May 27, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
Men having sex with men is not good for your health.
I'll think about that when my boyfriend is pounding me up the butt.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#143046 May 27, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
There is no proof that you are just not a pervert......
And the relevance of this mindless quip is, what exactly?
Here Is One wrote:
There is no proof that you were born that way......
As I have said, nature vs nurture is irrelevant to equal protection of the law. Your argument is utterly witless, and what is more, even if it were relevant, you lack the capacity to back it with fact.
Here Is One wrote:
But if proof is ever found by definition it will be a defect in your brain........
There is solid proof that you lack the capacity to support your position with facts, or to indicate its relevance to the topic at hand. It appears that you only continue to post to further illustrate your own incompetence.
Here Is One wrote:
Then we can treat it........
You havenít even proven your juvenile assertion yet.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#143047 May 27, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>He most likely will not, but the potential to be a member of a Church, then sue to obtain a large sum of money might be. pull your head out of obama for a minute and figure it out.
Sue for what? Churches don't have to marry ANYBODY. They can't be sued for that.

“Pay the toll”

Since: Jan 10

or meet the troll

#143048 May 27, 2012
Rational Adult wrote:
<quoted text>Take your queer butt back to the Nettie thread so Seen, can continue to whip it, gaywonder. I love the fact that you are a gay queer, it suits you.
Yes, gay puke, the federal law is DOMA and it says that homosexuality is not a protected or suspect class.
We do not have segregation in Alabama because of the 14th Amendment and it took Blacks over 100 years after they were given the right to gain the right.
I relish your hate. It soothes me. However I am not gay. I am an American who believes in freedom for all, even a putz like you. Why do you care so much about this issue, makes me think you are gay and are afraid god hates you for it. Silly child.

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