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Fallen Marine's father wants change in Afghanistan

Full story: The York Daily Record

It was the last way John Bernard would have wanted his voice to gain prominence in the national debate over the war in Afghanistan.

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MGuns in Texas

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Oct 19, 2009
 
There is nothing more incredibly insane than to tie the hands of our military men and women in the heat of battle. Our politicians and military leadership have learned nothing from Beirut. Hundreds of Marines and sailors killed as they carried out a hopeless peacekeeping mission. Again, the burden and risk falls on our men and women in uniform. Either let them do their job they are trained to do with the tools the taxpayer have provided or get them the hell out of there. I would expect nothing less than to have the First Sergeant speak up for the loss of his son and fellow Marine. How can I help? Semper Fi!
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Oct 21, 2009
 
Once a jar head always a jar head!!!
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Oct 21, 2009
 

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In war you either kill everyone and take no prisoners or get the hell out. It's now just like Vietnam with the Tailban playing the role of the VC and the US supporting a corrupt puppet government.Com e home guys.
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Frankly, I don't think we should have ever sent troops to Afghanistan or Iraq.

No, I'm not saying we should have just ignored 9/11; I just think we have nukes and we should have used them.

One small nuke in Kabul on 9/12 would have sent a message heard round the world: screw with us and kiss your fat arse goodbye.
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Morbius wrote:
Frankly, I don't think we should have ever sent troops to Afghanistan or Iraq.
No, I'm not saying we should have just ignored 9/11; I just think we have nukes and we should have used them.
One small nuke in Kabul on 9/12 would have sent a message heard round the world: screw with us and kiss your fat arse goodbye.
One kid broke your window so the answer is punish all kids? Just a slight bit extreme if I must say! We're after terrorists not a country! Do you think all Muslims are terrorists too?
thomas paine

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You will never defeat the afghans, never.
Bill

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Morbius wrote:
Frankly, I don't think we should have ever sent troops to Afghanistan or Iraq.
No, I'm not saying we should have just ignored 9/11; I just think we have nukes and we should have used them.
One small nuke in Kabul on 9/12 would have sent a message heard round the world: screw with us and kiss your fat arse goodbye.
Actually, the September 11 attack was a false flag operation. Do you really think we should nuke the perpetrators? Wouldn't you want to make sure you knew who the perpetrators were before you start swinging your big guns?

And now that we have confirmation that the World Trade Center towers and Building 7 were destroyed with pre-positioned demolition tech, should we nuke the Pentagon and Langley and werever else the responsible critters are hiding?

Not that I'm opposed to shutting down the Pentagon and the CIA and all the other parasites (i.e. on Wall Street) that are destroying this nation and very likely had a hand in orchestrating 9/11.

www.patriotsquestion911.com

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borninlebanon

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Oct 23, 2009
 
Bill wrote:
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Actually, the September 11 attack was a false flag operation. Do you really think we should nuke the perpetrators? Wouldn't you want to make sure you knew who the perpetrators were before you start swinging your big guns?
And now that we have confirmation that the World Trade Center towers and Building 7 were destroyed with pre-positioned demolition tech, should we nuke the Pentagon and Langley and werever else the responsible critters are hiding?
Not that I'm opposed to shutting down the Pentagon and the CIA and all the other parasites (i.e. on Wall Street) that are destroying this nation and very likely had a hand in orchestrating 9/11.
www.patriotsquestion911.com
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Morbius

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Oct 23, 2009
 
borninlebanon wrote:
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One kid broke your window so the answer is punish all kids? Just a slight bit extreme if I must say! We're after terrorists not a country! Do you think all Muslims are terrorists too?
I think the more important question to ask is: how many who follow Islam are willing to disown terrorism?

Remember, we are dealing with a culture that respects force; don't try to apply western concepts of mercy and gratitude to the Middle East. Our soldiers who have been there will tell you that one of the most disheartening things they are experiencing is the fact that one day the local standing next to them is the shooting at the Taliban, and the next day that same guy is shooting them.

There is no sense of loyalty in much of the Middle East; much of it is a survivalist mentality. And when you deal with such a cultural perspective, you need to seek out the strongest common denominator in order to dissuade further terrorist attacks. Like it or not, but the show of force is that common denominator.

And there is no great show of force than a nuke, even a small one.
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Oct 23, 2009
 
Morbius wrote:
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I think the more important question to ask is: how many who follow Islam are willing to disown terrorism?
Remember, we are dealing with a culture that respects force; don't try to apply western concepts of mercy and gratitude to the Middle East. Our soldiers who have been there will tell you that one of the most disheartening things they are experiencing is the fact that one day the local standing next to them is the shooting at the Taliban, and the next day that same guy is shooting them.
There is no sense of loyalty in much of the Middle East; much of it is a survivalist mentality. And when you deal with such a cultural perspective, you need to seek out the strongest common denominator in order to dissuade further terrorist attacks. Like it or not, but the show of force is that common denominator.
And there is no great show of force than a nuke, even a small one.
The "locals" have every right to shoot at the foreign invaders (us). We have no business being in their country. We attacked them without provocation and continue to occupy them. If circumstances were reversed, would you stand by idly?
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Oct 23, 2009
 
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Are you from another planet?
What relevance is that? Maybe this fellow is also from another planet?

LT. COL. BOB BOWMAN, PhD, U.S. Air Force – former Director of Advanced Space Programs Development, U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions, PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech, former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology, 22-year Air Force career, taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.

• excerpt from a video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible.… There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up.… Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…

Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder."
http://video.google.com/videoplay...

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Oct 23, 2009
 
Morbius wrote:
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I think the more important question to ask is: how many who follow Islam are willing to disown terrorism?
Remember, we are dealing with a culture that respects force; don't try to apply western concepts of mercy and gratitude to the Middle East. Our soldiers who have been there will tell you that one of the most disheartening things they are experiencing is the fact that one day the local standing next to them is the shooting at the Taliban, and the next day that same guy is shooting them.
There is no sense of loyalty in much of the Middle East; much of it is a survivalist mentality. And when you deal with such a cultural perspective, you need to seek out the strongest common denominator in order to dissuade further terrorist attacks. Like it or not, but the show of force is that common denominator.
And there is no great show of force than a nuke, even a small one.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - V
RAYN

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Oct 23, 2009
 
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Are you from another planet?
Do you ever use your brain ?
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Oct 23, 2009
 
They think that takeing so long to make a decision whether to send more troop is helping, then why don't these people go to afghanistan where the front lines are and make that decision. I beat they would make it faster when there lives are threatend.... God bless our Troups
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Oct 23, 2009
 
Morbius wrote:
Frankly, I don't think we should have ever sent troops to Afghanistan or Iraq.
No, I'm not saying we should have just ignored 9/11; I just think we have nukes and we should have used them.
One small nuke in Kabul on 9/12 would have sent a message heard round the world: screw with us and kiss your fat arse goodbye.
You're SICK and DISGUSTING.

You have no respect for human life.

You don't mind nuking and murdering 3 to 5 million INNOCENT people. Wow.

The people of Afghanistan have nothing to do with 9/11. Prove me wrong you morons.
celebrate subversity

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Oct 23, 2009
 
Bill wrote:
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The "locals" have every right to shoot at the foreign invaders (us).
So, you're advocating for violence against non-citizens in a country where they're not wanted?
celebrate subversity

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Oct 23, 2009
 
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And now that we have confirmation that the World Trade Center towers and Building 7 were destroyed with pre-positioned demolition tech,....
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LOL!! Nope...no such confirmation. Just a web blog that regurgitates the propaganda you've been dutifully trained to believe.
Looking over shoulder

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Bill wrote:
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What relevance is that? Maybe this fellow is also from another planet?
LT. COL. BOB BOWMAN, PhD, U.S. Air Force – former Director of Advanced Space Programs Development, U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions, PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech, former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology, 22-year Air Force career, taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
• excerpt from a video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible.… There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up.… Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…
Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.
I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder."
http://video.google.com/videoplay...
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When/where is the next reunion of the "Nuts from another Planet"? I wish to attend and observe what such a gathering actually looks like. Don't forget to invite the sole survivor of the ship that towed the iceberg into the path of the Titanic. For the "nuke anything that moves" guy. I hear Los Angeles has a gang problem. Just throw a "little" nuke on that place...surely will take care of the problem. You guys should just load up on the Kool-Aid and go play in the middle of the interstate; please cease and desist from using a computer or we will consider nuking you.
Bill

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Oct 23, 2009
 
celebrate subversity wrote:
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So, you're advocating for violence against non-citizens in a country where they're not wanted?
No, I'm advocating self defense against a heavily armed and hostile foreign invasion/occupation force.
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LOL!! Nope...no such confirmation. Just a web blog that regurgitates the propaganda you've been dutifully trained to believe.
I can see it with my own eyes in the videos of the building disintegrations. Why can't you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

I can obvious fraud and criminal destruction of a crime scene at the hands of official investigators. Why can't you?

I can read reports by multiple independent researchers who have found evidence of extremely high temperatures and thermitic residues -- and now unreacted nanothermitic material!-- in the World Trade Center dust, while the official "investigators" continue to avoid examining the WTC dust and debris for evidence of thermitic arson. Why can't you?
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