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I heard that there was a Western Cherokee Tribe in Salem, MO. I was wondering if they were a tribe or just a bunch of wanna be indians.
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i would like to know about this john watson peson. Is he as bad as he seams?
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There are 3 or more John Watson's in the Salem area and all of them are good people. Most all the Watson's I ahve met are known to be good people.
Isn;t it funny, no sooner than a question about wanabes comes in a question, someone brings my family into this! Watson is one of the largest and oldest families in Dent County, would you like to question this "cherokee".
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all i know of him is what i have read on the net. So I thought i would ask the question. I have heard that the john watson who was in the western cherokee over there was a lyer and a cheat and all he cared about was himself. So like i said i thought that i would ask.
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Not true from everything I know of him, what you heard was a lie.
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Osiyo..

The Western Cherokee Nation in Salem is a treaty tribe or also know as the "Old Settlers"

No WANOBIES there !!!

That John Watson is not of the other Watson family there, I am very sure the rest of the Watsons are thankful for that! He is a fraud and fake, sorry no nice way to put that.....

There is pow wow there the weekend of May 23-25 come see first hand !!
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This relates a small part of the situation in my opinion: http://www.tribalgov.info/eba2006.shtml
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NDN wrote:
Is that not the same John Watson that is incharge of the tribe (or at least thats what he told me) that ownes a head shop in salem and is into the occult. If thats him I think that they need to kick him out on his ear. The day I met him there was something about him that did not feel right.
You are so full of it. Its about time people start telling the truth and this is an outright lie. You know jerks like you need to get thier butts thrown in court and lose everything for your lying mouths.
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And i forgot one thing, NO, Mr. Watson is not incharge or have anything to do with the tribe. The most he can claim of being incharge of is his store.
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Are you saying the Western Cherokee is a recognized tribe? I didn't realize there were any recognized tribes in Missouri.
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there is no reconized tribes in mo. This western cherokee i checked out. the reconized tribes just laugh at then. in other words, western cherokee is no more than good joke. moreso now. lmfao
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You are right there are no Fed. recognized tribes in MO. and if you want to know the truth i do NOT want the Western Cherokee to get it either and who would want that. I know that the reason that J.W. wanted it is for his own profits and not for the betterment of the tribe.
And yes I do know J.W. he is the biggest peace of garbage and he has no cherokee in him it has been proven, he is as crocked as lola. All that he cares about is himself.
As far as the Western Cherokee as being a joke (as you say) if we are such a joke why is the CNO so scared of us getting State rec. they have tried to stop us in the past.
So I think you really need to check your facts again.
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hay i did not want to start a fight i just wanted to ask a question
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thats right wrote:
You are right there are no Fed. recognized tribes in MO. and if you want to know the truth i do NOT want the Western Cherokee to get it either and who would want that. I know that the reason that J.W. wanted it is for his own profits and not for the betterment of the tribe.
And yes I do know J.W. he is the biggest peace of garbage and he has no cherokee in him it has been proven, he is as crocked as lola. All that he cares about is himself.
As far as the Western Cherokee as being a joke (as you say) if we are such a joke why is the CNO so scared of us getting State rec. they have tried to stop us in the past.
So I think you really need to check your facts again.
thsy dont want fools, claimng to be cherokee. you dont know shit
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Bo Lucas wrote:
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thsy dont want fools, claimng to be cherokee. you dont know shit
There is pow wow in Salem the weekend of May 23-25,
maybe you should come an see things for your self. You might enjoy your time there.

And i hope to see everyone that can make it, it will be really fun :D
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Why would I want to go to a powwow with people that show so much hatred for their fellow man? I don't know much about powwows but the few I have been to are not about what I am hearing on this board. I didn't see where anyone was claiming to be in charge of anything, what are you so afraid of Secret?

Such hatred I am hearing from some of you, most always this kind of hatred comes from within and the way your life has been, not the person you are spending so much time on. The only thing I know to say is karma, if he is as bad as you say it will come back on him, if he is not it will come back on you. Look in the mirror and look at yourself before you judge others or you may be judged yourself.
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Sercet wrote:
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There is pow wow in Salem the weekend of May 23-25,
maybe you should come an see things for your self. You might enjoy your time there.
And i hope to see everyone that can make it, it will be really fun :D
lmao. like the one last year. lol. however i did meet the chiefs wife. now that i like. that was the only part that was any good. she sure is friendly. lol, in a good way
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What The Hey wrote:
Not true from everything I know of him, what you heard was a lie.
John Watson has not sufficiently even proven he has native blood. He does not come from the Watson clan south of Salem. I heard he received a card from lola sholl who did not verify his lineage. It is my understanding that his ex-wife was cherokee. Watson himself made a statement in front of several Southern Cherokee that he wasn't cherokee but that he would be now. Some say he coerced his card from sholl. A pony tail does not make you tslagi. Blood and Heart and the commitment to keep a pure heart and follow Creator's will.
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All I have hear is a bunch of rumors and If any of you are about the age of 10 it's time to grow up. You folks are nothing more than a bunch of kids playing games and spreading rumors. God takes care of these things in their own time.

To understand the words below a person does not have to be Christian because all religions and beliefs has variations of the same meaning.

What happens to those who continue to lie? But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death. Rev. 21:7,8

Those who bare false witness against their neighbor, those who claim to be truthful while failing to practice the second great commandment (love toward neighbor) will suffer the second death.
Who hasn't run across the smooth talker? The individual who could look you straight in the eye while telling a bald faced lie? It could have been a used car salesman, a fellow employee, a friend or, perhaps, even a close family member. We've all been lied to.

Why do people lie? Isn't it generally to get the advantage? To make things appear as they would like to have you believe they exist, not as they truly are?

A man that flattereth his neighbour spreadeth a net for his feet. Solomon warns in Pr. 29:5. In other words, people will use flattery on you if they think it will get them somewhere.
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God also tells us in Proverbs 27:6 that the wounds of a friend, or the verbal correction of someone who cares, are better than the flattery of a lying tongue. Why? Because they will help us see where we are making mistakes and enable us to make course corrections in our lives.

David knew the danger of lying lips and asked for God's help in delivering him from them. Deliver my soul, O Lord, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue. Psa. 120:2

His son, Solomon, also knew the destructive power of lying. An hypocrite with his mouth destroyeth his neighbor. Prov. 11:9 Who hasn't heard someone described in negative terms? Perhaps it's the unflattering term power hungry, nerd, jeek, or maybe lazy, undisciplined, slow, loose, looser, high-strung, momma's boy. The list goes on. Negative words create a mental image in the mind of those who hear them. They plant a seed that, once laid, is difficult to uproot. They can indeed destroy others.

Solomon points out the advantage of telling the truth, A true witness delivers souls: but a deceitful witness speaks lies.

He instructs us to buy the truth and sell it not. Why? Because, they that deal truly are His (God's) delight.

What is God's opinion of those who lie?

Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord. Prov. 12:22

Will those who lie benefit? God tells us that, A lying tongue is but for a moment. Prov. 12:19 Those who lie may benefit for a short time but they will not escape punishment. A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies will not escape. Prov. 19:5

It is to our benefit then to be truth bearers and not false witnesses. For those who speak lies will be punished.

There are different ways of bearing false witness. It may be an outright falsehood, it may be with rumors or it may be subtle. Consider the advertiser who would have you believe that buying their product will give you a better sex life, as can be seen in many car, perfume and jeans adds. Consider the 'whiter than white' advertisement that boasts a better laundry detergent. Sit through a few of the Saturday morning kiddy advertisements and see how many misleading ads you can spot. The world of advertising is full of misrepresentation if not out right falsehood.

Unfortunately many parents lie to their children at an early age. The adults, who children should be able to trust to always deal truthfully with them, tell the most bald faced lie imaginable and think that their child's trusting belief is 'cute'. These parental lies break trust between parent and child as well as giving our youth the impression that everyone lies, even mom and dad? Not many parents can honestly claim that they are always truthful and above board with their children. Yet we must be if we are to set the right example.

If God's law against bearing false witness were in full effect there would be no more 'cover ups'. No group mentality where one segment of the populace, be it cultural, political, medical or even religious, felt it necessary to cover the facts in order to 'protect their own'. Everyone would be honest and straight forward.
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