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Obama makes pitch for $1,000 rebate checks

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama Friday pushed for a windfall profits tax to fund $1,000 emergency rebate checks for consumers besieged by high energy costs, a counter to ...

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Aug 1, 2008
 
SO MCCAIN SAYS THAT HE PREFERS PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR OBAMA'S KIDS, BUT PRIVATE SCHOOLS FOR HIS OWN KIDS, AND IF OBAMA'S KIDS GO TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS LIKE MCCAIN'S KIDS, THEN OBAMA IS NOT SUPPORTING THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM, BUT MCCAIN SOMEHOW IS SUPPORTING PUBLIC EDUCATION BY SENDING HIS KIDS TO PRIVATE SCHOOL?????=====MCCAIN, YOU ARE SIMPLY GETTING SILLIER AND SILLIER IN YOUR COMMENTS EVERY DAY! IS THIS ANOTHER SENIOR MOMENT, OR IS HE SIMPLY GOING TO CHANGE HIS NAME TO....MR. McSILLY....
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Obama is just being silly in his proposals. He raises taxes on oil companies, they pass it on immediately to the users. The Governments spends hundreds of millions figuring out actually uses the energy, setting up a mailing system (this could take a year), then sends out the checks (but hidden is the fact that either taxes go up to fund this effort, or it adds to the deficit. So, you pay for the 1,000 check in oil price hikes now, and much later get a check.

So, Obama costs you money and you are supossed to think he is a great guy?
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Aug 2, 2008
 
Depending on the cost of living and the weather conditions, some families pay a lot more than others for energy costs.

I don't think oil companies owe us a rebate because a politician says so, but if they did, the flat $1000 wouldn't make sense anyway.

How much money is a business allowed to make in the U.S.? I never knew it was controllable by Senators.
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he wants to buy an ignorant vote. don't worry the gov will save you! meanwhile costs will still go up! drill with no fine print to it in your congressional bills. stay out of businesses! too much gov will bankrupt this country! just look what their energy policies are doing now!!!!!!!!!!
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This empty suit Socialist Senator thinks everybody needs government handouts, just like his own folks. He is a danger to this nation.

Look for reparations, the next big Afro payday, if he gets in.
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Aug 2, 2008
 
Glen Cove Lady wrote:
Depending on the cost of living and the weather conditions, some families pay a lot more than others for energy costs.
I don't think oil companies owe us a rebate because a politician says so, but if they did, the flat $1000 wouldn't make sense anyway.
How much money is a business allowed to make in the U.S.? I never knew it was controllable by Senators.
Perfectly Legal: The Covert Campaign to Rig our Tax System to Benefit the Super Rich- and Cheat Everyone Else
http://tinyurl.com/ydf6r6 / April 18, 2004
One of the country's top investigative reporters reveals how the richest people within the top 1 percent of the country has rigged the tax code and other laws in its favor.
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter David Cay Johnston has been breaking pieces of this story on the front page of The New York Times for nine years, work for which one business school professor calls him ěthe de facto chief tax enforcement officer of the United Statesî. With Perfectly Legal, he puts the whole shocking narrative together in a way that will stir up media attention and make readers angry about the state of our country. And he has sound advice on what to do.
http://www.booknotes.org/Program/...

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Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense
(And Stick You with the Bill) January 18, 2008
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David Cay Johnston joins us to talk about his new book,“Free Lunch: How the Wealthiest Americans Enrich Themselves at Government Expense (And Stick You with the Bill).” Johnston reveals how government subsidies and new regulations have quietly funneled money from the poor and the middle class to the rich and politically connected.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/18/free_lu...
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Aug 2, 2008
 
john k wrote:
he wants to buy an ignorant vote. don't worry the gov will save you! meanwhile costs will still go up! drill with no fine print to it in your congressional bills. stay out of businesses! too much gov will bankrupt this country! just look what their energy policies are doing now!!!!!!!!!!
THE CONSERVATIVE NANNY STATE
How the Wealthy Use the Government to Stay Rich and Get Richer
By Dean Baker / http://tinyurl.com/e7gyr
This book is written in frustration and hope. People in the United States who consider themselves progressive must be frustrated over the extent to which conservative political ideologies have managed to dominate public debate about economic policy in the last quarter century. Even when progressives have won important political battles, such as the defeat of efforts to privatize Social Security, they have done so largely without a coherent ideology; rather, this success rested on the public’s recognition that it stood to lose its retirement security with this “reform.” It also helped that the public was suspicious of the motives of the proponents of Social Security privatization. However, success in the goal-line defense of the country’s most important social program is not the same thing as a forward looking agenda.

The key flaw in the stance that most progressives have taken on economic issues is that they have accepted a framing whereby conservatives are assumed to support market outcomes, while progressives want to rely on the government. This framing leads progressives to futilely lash out against markets, rather than examining the factors that lead to undesirable market outcomes. The market is just a tool, and in fact a very useful one. It makes no more sense to lash out against markets than to lash out against the wheel.

The reality is that conservatives have been quite actively using the power of the government to shape market outcomes in ways that redistribute income upward. However, conservatives have been clever enough to not own up to their role in this process, pretending all along that everything is just the natural working of the market. And, progressives have been foolish enough to go along with this view.

The frustration with this futile debate, where conservatives like markets and progressives like government, is the driving force behind this book, along with the hope that new thinking is possible. We shall see. http://www.conservativenannystate.org/cns.htm...
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Aug 2, 2008
 
Arthur Lemay wrote:
Obama is just being silly in his proposals. He raises taxes on oil companies, they pass it on immediately to the users. The Governments spends hundreds of millions figuring out actually uses the energy, setting up a mailing system (this could take a year), then sends out the checks (but hidden is the fact that either taxes go up to fund this effort, or it adds to the deficit. So, you pay for the 1,000 check in oil price hikes now, and much later get a check.
So, Obama costs you money and you are supossed to think he is a great guy?
The Best Energy Bill Corporations Could Buy: Summary of Industry Giveaways in the 2005 Energy Bill
http://tinyurl.com/n7ofd
On August 8, 2005, President Bush signed into the law the energy bill; on July 28,the U.S. House of Representatives voted 275 to 156 to approve the energy bill; and on July 29, the U.S. Senate voted 74 to 26 to approve the energy bill.
Since 2001, energy corporations have showered federal politicians with $115 million in campaign contributions—with three-quarters of that amount going to Republicans. This cash helped secure energy companies and their lobbyists exclusive, private access to lawmakers, starting with Vice-President Dick Cheney’s Energy Task Force, whose report provided the foundation of the energy bill passed by Congress and signed by President Bush on August 8.
http://www.citizen.org/cmep/energy_enviro_nuc...
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Here's what Michele Obama thinks about the subject:

http://video.google.com/videoplay...
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Aug 2, 2008
 
So it sounds like Bush's stimulus package must be working.
If the DalaiObama wants to try one of his own.
Stupid bush..........
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Aug 2, 2008
 
BOTH parties are on the oil take
WAKE UP!
Let's talk big oil money
The royal family of Saudi Arabia gave the Clinton facility in Little Rock about $10 million.
That probably isn't in your stats.
And yet all we hear about is rep big oil money?
A quote from Hillary;
"The oil companies, the drug companies, the health insurance
companies, the predatory student loan companies have had seven years
of a president who stands up for them. It’s time we had a president
who stands up for all of you.”
Money from..........
U.S. Presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton, during her January 8 victory speech <http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ ... after the New Hampshire primary.

“$220,550
The amount Clinton has raised *from **oil and gas companies*, according to the Center for Responsive Politics <http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/select.asp ...
Saudi money is plentiful.
It's spend pretty evenly across the bread.
Google Oscar Wyatt and his money to the dems.
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Aug 2, 2008
 
Do you care about the price of oil?
Does Nancy care about you?

House Dems turn out the lights but GOP keeps talking Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the Democrats adjourned the House and turned off the lights and killed the microphones, but Republicans are still on the floor talking gas prices. Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) and other GOP leaders opposed the motion to adjourn the House, arguing that Pelosi's refusal to schedule a vote allowing offshore drilling is hurting the American economy. They have refused to leave the floor after the adjournment motion passed at 11:23 a.m. and are busy bashing Pelosi and her fellow Democrats for leaving town for the August recess At one point, the lights went off in the House and the microphones were turned off in the chamber, meaning Republicans were talking in the dark. But as Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz..) was speaking, the lights went back on, and the microphones have been turned on as well.
But C-SPAN, which has no control over the cameras in the chamber, has stopped broadcasting the House floor, meaning no one is witnessing this except the assembled Republicans, their aides, and one Democrat, Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio), who has now left. Only about a half-dozen Republicans were on the floor when this began, but the crowd has grown to about 20 now, according to Patrick O'Connor.
This is the people's House," Rep, Thaddeus McCotter (R-Mich.) said. "This is not Pelosi's politiburo."
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Nancy decided that $4 a gallon wasn't enough that we should go higher.
Do your kids really need new clothes for school?

Nancy sent her "class" home for the summer without addressing the oil prices.
It would be a good time to give these people a call.
Tell them istead of sending anymore campaign donations, you need the money to get to work.
http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_informa...
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http://appropriations.house.gov/Subcommittees...
*The list*

So why IS gas so darn expensive? There are a lot of reasons, but somehow the biggest problem (as usual) points directly to Washington DC. Democrats yesterday in a subcommittee voted basically to kill going to the outer continental shelf to drill for oil because there are 'other things we can do
Please remind yourself of this when you are paying $5 a gallon!

_AGAINST_
Chair: Norman D. Dicks (WA)
James P. Moran (VA)
Maurice D. Hinchey (NY)
John W. Olver (MA)
Alan B. Mollohan (WV)
Tom Udall (NM)
Ben Chandler (KY)
Ed Pastor (AZ)
Dave Obey (WI), Ex Officio

_FOR_
Minority
Ranking Member:
Todd Tiahrt (KS)
John E. Peterson (PA)
Jo Ann Emerson (MO)
Virgil H. Goode, Jr.(VA)
Ken Calvert (CA)
Jerry Lewis (CA), Ex Officio

Here is the subcommittee website <http://tr.subscribermail.com/cc.cfm... ; -- they voted down party lines on this...
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Aug 2, 2008
 
Balto wrote:
This empty suit Socialist Senator thinks everybody needs government handouts, just like his own folks. He is a danger to this nation.
Look for reparations, the next big Afro payday, if he gets in.
The jews and japs got reparations so what not the africans?
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THE CONSERVATIVE NANNY STATE
How the Wealthy Use the Government to Stay Rich and Get Richer
By Dean Baker / http://tinyurl.com/e7gyr
This book is written in frustration and hope. People in the United States who consider themselves progressive must be frustrated over the extent to which conservative political ideologies have managed to dominate public debate about economic policy in the last quarter century. Even when progressives have won important political battles, such as the defeat of efforts to privatize Social Security, they have done so largely without a coherent ideology; rather, this success rested on the public’s recognition that it stood to lose its retirement security with this “reform.” It also helped that the public was suspicious of the motives of the proponents of Social Security privatization. However, success in the goal-line defense of the country’s most important social program is not the same thing as a forward looking agenda.
The key flaw in the stance that most progressives have taken on economic issues is that they have accepted a framing whereby conservatives are assumed to support market outcomes, while progressives want to rely on the government. This framing leads progressives to futilely lash out against markets, rather than examining the factors that lead to undesirable market outcomes. The market is just a tool, and in fact a very useful one. It makes no more sense to lash out against markets than to lash out against the wheel.
The reality is that conservatives have been quite actively using the power of the government to shape market outcomes in ways that redistribute income upward. However, conservatives have been clever enough to not own up to their role in this process, pretending all along that everything is just the natural working of the market. And, progressives have been foolish enough to go along with this view.
The frustration with this futile debate, where conservatives like markets and progressives like government, is the driving force behind this book, along with the hope that new thinking is possible. We shall see. http://www.conservativenannystate.org/cns.htm...
The rich get richer!
1. Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.)

$750 million

2. Sen. Herb Kohl (D-WI)

$243.15 million

3. Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.)

$200 million

4. Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.)

$172 million

5. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.)

$140.86 million

6.Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton

(D-N.Y.)

$119.08 million

7. Rep. Robin Hayes (R-N.C.)

$59.75 million

8. Rep. Charles Taylor (R-N.C.)

$56.1 million

9. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)

$42.6 million

10. Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.)

$39.92 million
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Aug 2, 2008
 
The "Hoods and Thieves of Liberalism"

MAKE THE HIJACKED CORRUPT DNC SUPER (Sucker) DELEGATES RESPECT OUR VOTES... HILLARY 08!!

OBAMA WAS "SELECTED NOT ELECTED"

COUNT THE VOTE that "WILL NOT VOTE" OBAMA: The National Republican Party, Naders Raiders, Cynthia McKinney's Klan, Hillary Women who Hate Sexism, Rural Gun and Faith who Despise Obama, Appalachian Folk who "SMELL A SOCIALIST," Working Class People who have Contempt for Obama, Jews who Don't Trust Obama, Bible Belt who like Jesus, The Puertorican, Mexican, Hispanic, Cuban and Latino, Brazillian, Vietnamese, and Reagan Democrat Voters who favor a Traditional Republican Family Values Agenda.

...AND...

WE see the "Barack insane Obama" bigots think they don't need the welfare Hillbillies, Hick's, Rednecks, Crackers, Briars, and the NASCAR Crowd for votes and Now poor white Trailer Trash People, Muslim Women that must sit in the back of the bus and Rev. Manning and Jesse Jackson's Klan, and the Military vote... LMFAO!!!

AND NOW... Native and Black Reparations and more Racial Divide, to buy votes with your money!

Obama's "Hope and Polarizing Change"... Larry Sinclair, Rev. Manning, Jesse Jackson, Uncle wRight, the Clintons, disrespected Muslim and Hillary women, snubbed soldiers, Christian voters, and millions of White Road Kill voters. Two States of disenfranchised Florida and Michigan votes and 13 million Ostracized registered Democrat Appalachian voters the Obama Bigots call Racists and Common Sense Democrat voters who can't believe, thrown under Obama's skanky bus that... "WILL VOTE HILLARY 08"...

The Polls of Hope are never Honest or wRight... Polls of Hope ARE for the "Hopelessly Obama enslaved"...

The "Terrorism and of Poison Liberalism"
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Anndee wrote:
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The rich get richer!
1. Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.)
$750 million
2. Sen. Herb Kohl (D-WI)
$243.15 million
3. Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.)
$200 million
4. Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif.)
$172 million
5. Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.)
$140.86 million
6.Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton
(D-N.Y.)
$119.08 million
7. Rep. Robin Hayes (R-N.C.)
$59.75 million
8. Rep. Charles Taylor (R-N.C.)
$56.1 million
9. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)
$42.6 million
10. Sen. Lincoln Chafee (R-R.I.)
$39.92 million
Stop Oil Speculation Now
http://www.stopoilspeculationnow.com/

Stop Oil Speculation Now Press Conference
http://www.stopoilspeculationnow.com/site/pag...

TEXAS REPUBLICAN SENATOR PHIL GRAMM & ENRON MANIPULATING OIL PRICES./ Michael Greenberger, Former Director, Commodities Future Trading Commission 1997-1999.
Michael Greenberger discusses the role of unregulated oil speculators on the buying and selling of oil futures. He says legislation passed in 2000 created an environment where oil speculators influence the current day price of oil and other crude products.
5/27/2008: WASHINGTON, DC: 28 min.
http://www.c-span.org/VideoArchives.asp...

Most if not all Bush Republican supporters are not conservatives. They are Neo-Cons who are apologist for the wealthiest top 1% percentile.

They have been thoroughly bamboozled for the last 30 years of rightwing propaganda and corrupt corporate mainstream media, which they believe is liberal!

Sincerely,
Leo Strauss
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Obama has no core values or principles that guide him, except arrogance, an inflated self-worth, handlers and polls.
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Yea, great idea Senator Barack Hussien Obama has. Make a public corporation pay out to the citizens of the United States a rebate check because they charge a lot of money for their products. I want Sears, Walmart, and General Motors to do the same.
How about this, instead of buying your beer and cigarettes this month, take that money and invest in oil company stocks. Anyone is allowed to invest in these public companies. It is not an exclusive club.
Oh, and by the way, Obama will say and do anything to be elected, even something as foolish as this idea to get the votes of the dumb Americans who really believe that this will get them some free money.
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