Clinton wins by 2-1 margin

Debunking Five Myths About Obama's Support
MYTH 1: The Primary has left Democrats divided.
FACT: Democrats are united behind Barack Obama, even more so than Republicans are united behind McCain
- May 12 Washington Post poll shows that Obama wins 81% of Democrats in a matchup against John McCain.
- Indeed, more Republicans crossover to vote for Obama (15%) than do Democrats for McCain (13%).
- NOTE: In 1996, Bill Clinton won 84% of Democrats.
MYTH 2: The Primary campaign has hurt Obama with swing voters and Republicans:
FACT: Obama is winning the swing voters against McCain by a wide margin.
- Obama holds a 51-42 lead among Independents in the Washington Post poll.
- NOTE: Clinton loses 46-49 to McCain among Independents.
- Not since 1988, when George Bush beat Michael Dukakis 57-43 among Independents, has a candidate won such a large margin among swing voters.
- In his two victories, Clinton only managed a 6-point margin over the Republican among independents in 1992 and an 8-point margin in 1996.
- Indeed, no Democrat has won a majority of Independent voters since exit polls were first conducted in 1976.
MYTH 3: Obama cannot perform strongly enough among white voters:
FACT: Obama's is running as well or better than past Democratic Candidates among white voters.
- LA Times (May 8) Obama 41 - McCain 45
- Wash Post (May 13): Obama 42 - McCain 51
- 2004 Exit polls: Kerry 41 - Bush 58
- 2000 Exit Polls: Gore 43 - Bush 54
- 1996 Exit polls: Clinton 43 - Dole 46
- 1992 Exit polls: Clinton 39 - Bush 41 - Perot 20
MYTH 4: The race against Clinton has compromised Obama's position among women:
FACT: Obama has begun attracting the support of a broad coalition of women and is poised to win historic margins.
- Wash Post (May 13): Obama 54 - McCain 40
- New York Times (May 3) Obama 47 - McCain 39
- NOTE: No Democratic candidate has won women by so large a margin since exit polling was first conducted in 1976. The closest any candidate has come was in 2000, when Al Gore won women 54-43 over George Bush
MYTH 5: Obama cannot win working class voters:
FACT: Obama is already winning working class voters
- In the recent LA Times poll, Obama wins every income group under $100,000.
- <$40K: Obama 43 McCain 35
-$40K-$59K Obama 43 McCain 40
-$60K-$100K Obama 51 McCain42
-$101K+ Obama 46 McCain 47
- According to the Washington Post/ABC poll released today, despite Sen. Clinton's insistence that she is stronger among white, working-class voters the data shows that Sen. Obama performs nearly as well as she does in the general election. Among white, non-college voters in this poll:
- Obama vs. McCain is 40-52
- Clinton vs. McCain is 44- 52

"Christine Gillispie, 59, said many of her co-workers at the state's Department of Health and Human Resources plan to vote for McCain if Clinton does not get the nomination."
Funny since Clinton and Obama, as stated in the article, have minor differences in policies. They would rather vote for the candidate who does not share their views. I'd hate to say it, but I can't help but think it's because Obama is half black.
What a joke.

HIlary Clinton will be the first woman president in the USA
for sure. There's no question about that. She will win for sure. Trust me.

This is the 2nd least educated state in the Union in terms of high school graduates and one of the poorest. Now the Bush Clintons have put us in bad shape with NAFTA and with the CLINTONS vote for the OIL WAR(Bill Clinton no doubt advised Hillary Clinton to vote for the War knowing they would get the ca-ching!- support of the big corporations that benefit from War). But the worse of the bad shape are those voters who refuse to acknowledge who got them there. West Virginia is FAR from being represntative of White Americans! Way far!

The result is not surprising. It was exepected. What never ceases to amaze me is the people who say "If Hillary is not the Democratic nomineee, I will vote for McCain."

If Hillary is not the nominee, these people will vote for four more years of George Bush. And for possible "endless war."

That is amazing!

Look at all of the Obama cultists spinning this huge loss.
Put down the kool aid.
41 points......
Are you friggin kidding me?
Obama's got big problems people.
His cult members can deny it until they are blue in the face but come November they are in for a very rude awakening.

There is no cool aid involved. Hillary can't beat McBush when you look at all the baggage she is carrying. They will bring up Whitewater, all the scandals with Bill including a rape charge that Hillary knew about and threatened the victim about it. Hillary is a known liar and was let go during the Watergate investigation for lying and unethical behavior. Lets not forget the so called misspeaks this year. Lets talk about her brothers Hugh and Tony which were pardoned when Bill left office which were involved in money laundering. We can't forget NAFTA which Bill and Hillary own. The only reason Hillary is still in this is that Obama has not used everything he had much to the dismay of many of his supporters. Obama can shut her down anytime he wants to but I don't think he will for the sake of the party. I disagree with that position but I am not his manager.

If Vince Foster had owned a gun, he would be alive today.

Tearing down Hillary doe snot help Obama beat Mccain.

He can't.

Obama has accumulated wuite a bit of baggage himself in recent months while it hasn't hurt him too much in the Dem primaries it will prove devestating in the general. The country is made up of more than the college kids and leftists that support Obama and he and they will find this out the hard way come November.

41 points is nothing to joke about.

Obama is in big trouble. He hasn't been able to win over the white, moderate, blue collar Democrats and if he can't win them he can't win the election. It's just that simple.

Obama lost both OH and FL to Clinton. If he loses either of those states in the general he's done.

You Obamabots can spin and spin and spin but Hillary landed a huge right uppercut last night and the person that benefitted from it most was Mccain. There's also not signs that show Hillary is done throwing punches at Obama either as her gameplan is to bloody him so much before the election so that he cannot win and then she can run again in 2012. Hillary's people have seen the wirting on the wall.....she will not be the Dem nom....and in tiem the Obamabots will see it too.......Barry Hussein Obama will never be president of this nation.

End of story.

... and it all depends on how you want to slice the pie. Hillary Clinton has an interesting way of spinning things, perhaps to her advantage - but a bit short sighted in meeting the needs of the greatest amount of Americans. Suddenly, if you can't win West Virginia - you can't win anywhere. As though the win is predictive rather than correlational. Sure Bill Clinton took it ... he may have also been helped by the presence of Ross Perot that in all probability (if memory serves) created an atmosphere that turned voters off to the republicans bickering over who was the best business man. And didn't she say that "Ohio" is important?- "why look what happened in the last two elections"? In 1996, Bill didn't take Ohio either. But he did have Nebraska, which Obama won. He had Louisiana, which Obama won. Missouri - which Obama won. Iowa, which Obama won. Minnossota, which Obama won. And all the smaller states that make up the New England area - Vermont, Maine, Connecticut, Rhode Island ... all of which have stunningly 'rural' areas. Or -- wait? Are we saying that some rural communities are 'more equal than others'? Ahh, the great Orwellian trip. I wonder whether she is appealing to super delegates to not allow Obama into their special club. You know, these measures didn't work to keep him out ... so why don't we switch them around a bit to make sure he can't get in? Why is it that she - an American institution at this point - will prove to be more successful than Obama given that she has been so handedly challenged by the "inexperienced freshman senator"? Obama's campaign has proven to be incredibly resilient and sure footed; strategically brilliant. And, what must hurt the ego, they outsmarted Clinton's campaign such that she is at her wits end trying to figure out how to pull it off ...

I agree with PeterD. Presidential elections are all about wo can capture the middle and I think that Mccain is better suited to do this. He is more of a centrist than Obama and there can be no doubt that the GOP will seize upon every opportunity to use any little thing that Obama has said or done to portray him as far left.

The argument of a thrid Bush term didn't work in 2004 when Kerry was the solution to a second Bush term and it won't work this time either as Mccain has always been viewed as a different kind of Republican and does ahve true crossover appeal.

I don't see it going well for the Dems once again in an election that they should be able to win.

keep doing things the way you have and you will get the same results. If the people of West Virgina keep voting the way they have they will keep getting what they have. If they are happy with their economy and prosperity then let them be the beacon of light that makes Americans like them, prosperous and happy. Enjoy prosper and keep on keeping on America.

Now wait a minute. About 250,000 Democratic voters in West Virginia, of which two-thirds went for Hillary, and Obama should start to worry about his chances in a general election? I do not want to marginalize my neighbors in West Virginia, but their impact is insignificant. Get real, pundits.

frank choy wrote:

HIlary Clinton will be the first woman president in the USA
for sure. There's no question about that. She will win for sure. Trust me.

And trust the guy from New York who is offering to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge.

The real question is: Who is more flawed, Hilary or Barak?

McCain will win handily in November.

hmm, Obama won't salute the American flag, and he (until it was politically untenable to do so) held a racist preacher as an icon.... sure, THAT'S the man I want for president. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!

PeterD wrote:

Look at all of the Obama cultists spinning this huge loss.
Put down the kool aid.
41 points......
Are you friggin kidding me?
Obama's got big problems people.
His cult members can deny it until they are blue in the face but come November they are in for a very rude awakening.

Spinning losses is Hillary game. Look at the scoreboard. Do the math.

Obama should select Hilliary as his vice president. Its as simple as that. If he doesn't select Hilliary, he can basically forget winning in November.

The rich democrats can afford to support Obama because increase grocery prices, high home heating fuel and transportation fuel don't affect them. Oprah, Ted, and the other rich democrats will still attend the same gala parties that President McCain will be in attendance.

The Michigan and Florida DNC chairpersons should be kicked in the butt and removed for being so stupid. The Democratic National Committee should have forced Howard Dean to step aside and let someone with some common sense run the committee. I can't understand why Howard couldn't see some rogue DNC chairpersons not playing on the same team. He is going to tell the American people that their delegate votes will not count. What kind of crap is that?

Obama's experience cannot match that of two Clinton presidents in the White House with experience.

Obama for President in 2016!

Hmm let's see now:
According to a new Quinnipiac University poll, both Democratic candidates beat McCain by a gap well outside the margin of error. Obama beats McCain by 7 points in the poll, 47 percent to 40 percent, while Hillary Clinton bests the Arizona senator by 5 points, 46 percent to 41 percent.

Clinton's biggest victory so far this campaign came in the Arkansas primary on Super Tuesday, February 5, when she beat Barack Obama 70.05 percent to 26.25 percent — the Illinois senator's poorest showing to date.

The Arkansas primary marked the only contest so far where Clinton reached the 70 percent vote threshold. So far Obama has reached or exceeded 70 percent in five contests: the DC primary (75 percent), and the caucuses in Alaska (75 percent), Hawaii (76 percent), Idaho (79 percent), and Kansas (74 percent).

So now...1 state goes big for Hillary and Obama is in trouble, but 4 and DC go even bigger for Obama and that somehow means those people didn't really mean it they secretly are for Hillary too? Current polls show Obama as the stronger candidate against McCain and guess they didn't really mean it either? I need Hillary to explain this to me since I'm clearly not quite seeing it the same way....

Whoa Is Me wrote:

Obama's experience cannot match that of two Clinton presidents in the White House with experience.

What experience exactly is it that Hillary has other than being married to someone who actually did the jobs that makes her so qualified?