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Andrew
Dayton, OH
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Unrepentant Cynic wrote: <quoted text>
I have news for you, a fine with a speeding ticket doesn't mean much to most people. Especially when someone is 'speeding' when no one else is damaged in the act of 'speeding'. It doesn't make anyone accountable for anything. It just wastes time and resources. The whole purpose of speeding tickets is to generate revenue. Nothing more nothing less.
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Oh-I see; so now all of a sudden private property rights are important to people living in OHIO. I guess voting away the private property rights of business owners in order to enforce a smoking ban doesn't apply to private property rights. eh?
Fines and penalties do not equal accountability. Fines and penalties are nothing more than revenue generation for bureaucrats. Just like sticking a gun to the head of private business owners and forcing them to collect sales tax without compensating them for their time and their accounting expenses. But then-apparently you don't believe in property rights or in individual rights. Just government, rules, regulations, laws and force. Actually, I'm very much in favor of property and individual rights. Who's protecting the rights of the out-of-state property owner who has neighbors trespassing on his property?
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Andrew wrote: <quoted text>
Actually, I'm very much in favor of property and individual rights. Who's protecting the rights of the out-of-state property owner who has neighbors trespassing on his property? It certainly isn't the local government. I hope you notice they are levying a fine which they (local government) will receive; not the actual property owner who is allegedly the one being 'damaged'. I am not suggesting the woman should be allowed to encroach, but I am not buying the bull about a 'safety' issue and I certainly don't buy the argument that the local government cares one whit about the 'out of town' property owner's rights. They don't. They only want to show their badge, levy fines for crimes imagined and push people around. If the owner of the property has problems with the trespass the owner of the property should be the one to collect any money for any actual damages. NOT the government. The government isn't being damaged and they should only intervene if the actual owner asks them to. At that point, their authority should be limited to require movement of the display back across the property line. Nothing more-nothing less.
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Joined: Sep 8, 2009
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pickerington
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Andrew wrote: <quoted text>
Unfortunately fines are one of the only ways to try to grab peoples attention and enforce laws. If you were pulled over for speeding and given a ticket and that ticket had no fine associated with it, then it would mean nothing to you. However, if you have to pay a fine with that ticket, then there is accountability associated with you breaking the law. In the case of the halloween display, the lady is question of erecting the display doesnt care that its not her property. If the city doesnt say anything to her about it then she will assume that she can continue on without issue. Fines and penaltys unfortunately = accountability. A fine is a form of bribery ,Pay the fine move on to the next day and keep on keeping on until you get caught again.
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Joined: Oct 6, 2009
Comments: 53
Cardington, OH
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What the difference, the difference is the city wants a piece of the pie, the dollar pie that is.
its free free free and they get nothing.
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“Expect the worst”
Joined: Sep 4, 2009
Comments: 1772
Columbia, SC
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Ummmmmmmmm...who cares? Let her leave it up, who's it hurting? Why do were have a bunch of little hitlers running around?
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JenE4
Findlay, OH
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It is understanding that this woman during the summer mows the grass and keeps the yard clean. If I was her I would call the owners (Who are not caring for their property) and ask for permission to put up the display (witch I see no problem with) and tell the city to back off. beside by the time the city acts and goes threw all their red tape. Halloween will be over.
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notright
Sabina, OH
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Angela wrote: I am just curious how that display is for children. It is nothing I would want my children to see. How is the display any different than the costumes ppl wear to go trick or treating?????
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disgusted vet
Columbus, OH
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Who is she hurting? What harm has she caused? Has the owner of the property objected? I agree that fines are just to generate revenue. It is apparent that fines and penalties do not equal accountability. Look at what it has done for the OSP. Has it curbed any speeding by off duty members of their organization...no!
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