Who do you support for Governor in Tennessee in 2010?

Exasperated1 wrote:

I think MOST conservatives feel less government intrusion into people's lives is a good thing. Liberal/progressives, on the other hand, feel what the mayor of NYC did couple of weeks ago, in banning 16 ounce soft drinks, as a good thing. Therein lies the difference.

I don't agree with that insanity, nor do I agree with involuntary vaginal probes.

It seems conservatives consider taxation to be government intrusion while liberals consider legislating what we can and cannot do behind closed bedroom doors to be government intrusion.

I understand why the Big Banks had to be bailed out, even if Bush & Paulson are the actual Ones who did it, not Obama.

It was the only choice that we had. Otherwise, the Nation's Economy would have collapsed & perhaps the World's Economies, also. Just look a the "domino effect" of the European Countries' economies that's happening right now! It was a bad thing to do, IMO, but it's done, so we have to live with it...& that "bad thing" is this "Global Economy" where everything that happens to any economy in any Nation in the World, affects ALL Nations of the World, & their Economy!

If the Banks & GM had not been "bailed out", the loss of Jobs, alone, from those two sectors, would have bankrupted this Country!

What I don't understand is why Nobody is willing to put the Regulations back on the Banks & Financial Markets that were taken off, which allowed all of this Nation's Financial Disaster to happen to begin with! To me, that is insanity personified! Just setting up another Financial Disaster just like this One, in the not too distant future! If...IF we ever fully recover from this one!

Exasperated1 wrote:

I think MOST conservatives feel less government intrusion into people's lives is a good thing. Liberal/progressives, on the other hand, feel what the mayor of NYC did couple of weeks ago, in banning 16 ounce soft drinks, as a good thing. Therein lies the difference.

Yep, telling folks what to eat and drink are not intruding on their lives any more than telling women how to manage their bodies when it comes to reproduction. The so called conservatives speak with forked tongue.

trinity allen wrote:

<quoted text> i dont enjoy anything from the government other than the roads and that kinda thing.

Yes you do. You just don't realize it.

Vet wrote:

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Well, no, OA, we just don't want to pay for your health care, food, shelter, clothing, birth control, cell phones, beer, drugs, etc., etc, etc.By the way, Bush isn't running for president, Obama, with his failed economy and failed presidency is.

Obama is the president but Bush is how we got here with his FAILED presidency. Something the right doesn't like to remember.

They're all your Scud Troll Buddies, so why are you complaining? In fact, how many of them are actually you, using different Names?

TexasT wrote:

<quoted text>Yes you do. You just don't realize it.

You're absolutely right! The List is enormous & most of the things , we could NOT live 6 months, without...but these elitists think all of these safeguards that keep us alive & healthy, just happen by magic! It's like everything else they enjoy...they take it all for granted & have no clue why it's there, how it got there, & who pays for it?

Really Sassy wrote:

They're all your Scud Troll Buddies, so why are you complaining? In fact, how many of them are actually you, using different Names?

Reply to Vet's Post, complaining about his troll buddies turning this thread into a soap Opera!

TexasT wrote:

<quoted text>Obama is the president but Bush is how we got here with his FAILED presidency. Something the right doesn't like to remember.

So, Bush is responsible for his presidency and Obama's presidency but Obama is not responsible for his own presidency! Hilarious, as OA would post. Why did you vote for this failed president if you didn't expect him to make things better?

TexasT wrote:

<quoted text>Obama is the president but Bush is how we got here with his FAILED presidency. Something the right doesn't like to remember.

Right again,T!

Vet wrote:

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So, Bush is responsible for his presidency and Obama's presidency but Obama is not responsible for his own presidency! Hilarious, as OA would post. Why did you vote for this failed president if you didn't expect him to make things better?

Things ARE better! You would know that if you read or watched anything other than the Far-Right Propaganda Sites. The trick is to keep things improving while fighting the Teapublicans who are determined to destroy this Nation, if they can't get back in Power & rob us all blind & then destroy it , if they do!

TexasT wrote:

<quoted text>Obama is the president but Bush is how we got here with his FAILED presidency. Something the right doesn't like to remember.

"The private sector is just fine," he had to back track on that stupid statement. Hilarious!

The Wealthy Private Sector IS doing better than fine! But, the Average Private Sector is suffering badly! We ALL knew which Oama was referring to, but you Far Right-Wing elitists pounced like you always do! You remind me of a Lion waiting to attack it's Prey! It's all you People live for!

Exasperated1 wrote:

I think MOST conservatives feel less government intrusion into people's lives is a good thing. Liberal/progressives, on the other hand, feel what the mayor of NYC did couple of weeks ago, in banning 16 ounce soft drinks, as a good thing. Therein lies the difference.

That's it in a nutshell, right?
Yep, that is the extent of the differences.

We should let the unregulated worlds of big business have their way with us (Wall Street, banking industry, insurance, health and drug industries, big oil, communication, agribusiness).

But for God's sake, keep our elected representatives, senators, and chief executive away from their desks in D.C. where they could work out policy and statutes for the welfare of the INDIVIDUAL.

Do you ever suspect that you are an idiot?

Vet wrote:

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Well, no, OA, we just don't want to pay for your health care, food, shelter, clothing, birth control, cell phones, beer, drugs, etc., etc, etc.By the way, Bush isn't running for president, Obama, with his failed economy and failed presidency is.
OT, D. OA, what the hell happened, I'm gone a few weeks and you have allowed this forum to be turned into a soap opera. Por Dios!

Welcome back Vet........I think, just kiddin, we have to have all Americans to talk about these issues, it's how we as Americans are different.
Now as for the "soap opera" thing, I'm not sure how it got started, but most of us bailed, until it was over.
I'm for Universal Health Care(A.C.A). I'm not sure what you mean about the beer thing? Even our Founding Fathers talked about the "pursuit of happiness" thing, and something about the "well being". If there is no A.C.A., then we will be paying out the (!) to keep the county hospitals open, as someone will have to care of the less fortunate. I mean we can't just let the bodies build up at the door.......or can we?

Exasperated1 wrote:

I think MOST conservatives feel less government intrusion into people's lives is a good thing. Liberal/progressives, on the other hand, feel what the mayor of NYC did couple of weeks ago, in banning 16 ounce soft drinks, as a good thing. Therein lies the difference.

give me a break....

first off, mayor bloomberg (I), used to be a republican....

secondly??

what about all 1100 of the intrusive anti-womens health care bills now being considered.???

all of them sponsored by "small governemnt" republicans.

no big government there??? HUH?

just at the soda machine??

what about Rick scotts law in florida that mandates drug testing for all state employees??

no big government there either??? right??

fool.

Dunlapian wrote:

<quoted text>Welcome back Vet........I think, just kiddin, we have to have all Americans to talk about these issues, it's how we as Americans are different.
Now as for the "soap opera" thing, I'm not sure how it got started, but most of us bailed, until it was over.
I'm for Universal Health Care(A.C.A). I'm not sure what you mean about the beer thing? Even our Founding Fathers talked about the "pursuit of happiness" thing, and something about the "well being". If there is no A.C.A., then we will be paying out the (!) to keep the county hospitals open, as someone will have to care of the less fortunate. I mean we can't just let the bodies build up at the door.......or can we?

Hey, Dee, yes, it seems some interlopers have invaded the forum. Of course it is open to all, don't want to be a fascist but the school yard stuff is boring, come to think of it, kids are out of school now, maybe a lot of them are kids. I expect Obama Care will die next week, I could be wrong, I once thought I was wrong. My GP told me that if it is not found unconstitutional he would have to restrict his number of patients and asked if I would be willing to pay a yearly fee (around 1500 dollars per year) to remain one of his patients. I said yes. No one is turned away from an ER, D., and many healthy young patients choose not to buy insurance until they get older.The pursuit of happiness means I pay for my pursuit and you pay for your pursuit.

Dunlapian wrote:

<quoted text>Welcome back Vet........I think, just kiddin, we have to have all Americans to talk about these issues, it's how we as Americans are different.
Now as for the "soap opera" thing, I'm not sure how it got started, but most of us bailed, until it was over.
I'm for Universal Health Care(A.C.A). I'm not sure what you mean about the beer thing? Even our Founding Fathers talked about the "pursuit of happiness" thing, and something about the "well being". If there is no A.C.A., then we will be paying out the (!) to keep the county hospitals open, as someone will have to care of the less fortunate. I mean we can't just let the bodies build up at the door.......or can we?

D., if we don't get back to individual responsibility, we will become a cradle to grave socialist country like Europe which is dying as we speak.

Gary Ellis wrote:

<quoted text> I agree about the overseas bit...but I also see where NAFTA, GATT', etc. helped fuel the fire. I advocate going back to pre 1913 and 16th Amendment tax rates when we actually kept all the fruits of our labors...What's sad is that if the people would stand together (or actually just sit down) there'd be a big ol' fat hole pop up in the bottom of that "pool" you mentioned yesterday.

unfortunatley, going back that far is going to ruin the social fabric of this country.

you prove my point when I claim that the tea partiers, and ron paulites, want to roll back the entire progressive era.

before that date you mentioned.....

corporations got away with paying no taxes....

the interstates that you drive on were built during a period when the uber rich were taxed at a real rate of 45%.

the prescribed rate was in the low 90%'s..

it made a big difference in how much money was availiable to expand this nation when it was in outright growth mode!

do you like nice roads?? schools?? fire stations??

national parks??

I do.

I dont think we need to go back to those eisenhower rates for the uber wealthy, but to have a society, we will always need to tax(at a certain rate higher than the rest of us) the uber wealthy to reclaim some of those corporate profits,(earned on the backs of the middle class) to run the society......

so we can have roads and schools and a social net for the elderly so they dont have to work until they are dead.

I only advocate going as far back as 1999.

reinstating glass steigal and reconsidering and repealing citizens united...

while scrapping nafta and forgetting about signing a nafta like treaty with any asian nations.

Vet wrote:

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D., if we don't get back to individual responsibility, we will become a cradle to grave socialist country like Europe which is dying as we speak.

which weve more or less been since 1934.

wow!! the ignorance of you backwoods freaks!!