Vet: Dogs malnourished

What does this say about the 'personal vet' who knew and admits taking care of the Fair's dogs? It's the vet that now has custody while the 'legal system' figures out if caging animals 24/7, breeding as often as possible, neglecting the animals to the point they have fleas, ticks, mites, urine burns all for the almight dollar is against the law.

This shows his credentials. Dr. Page is an Auburn Veterinary alumnus that has practiced in northwest Tennessee for over 25 years. His interest in the canine parvovirus came in the late seventies when the parvovirus was literally epidemic among the dog population with no cure available. Page was seeing the massive dog loss in his practice from the parvovirus and frustrated by the helplessness of the epidemic, decided to investigate. As a result of this research a vaccine was developed by Dr. Page and put into production. It was the first effective canine parvovirus vaccine on the market and Page was producing the vaccine from his Tennessee state regulated laboratory…and saving his patients.

As with most viruses a few short years later, the virus mutated rendering the original vaccine ineffective except to its original virus strain. Page again approached the virus' mutations…and developed NEOPAR®.
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Dr. Page continues to practice at his NW Tennessee Veterinary Services clinic in Dresden, TN and oversees NEOTECH, LLC his federally licensed laboratory that produces NEOPAR®.

Considered by Pet Professionals to be one of the nation's leading authorities in canine pediatric health and kennel practices, Dr. Page maintains an active lecture schedule. He is currently involved in conducting an educational lecture series in conjunction with America's Pet Registry of Harvey, AR; a series of lectures to educate and to produce the healthiest and the best dogs and puppies. Dr. Page maintains an advisory position with many of the nation's show and pet registration organizations, national canine health tracking and service dog institutions.

Nice credentials Dr Page has...too bad he didn't notice the dogs were neglected/abused but the Sheriff and Dr.Martin did.

If they do not let an impartial vet or organization take these dogs and give them a real life...with loving owners they are...in most public opinions..inviting more and more of the same neglect and millers to come on in!

This county is a very professional county. If they hadn't been they would have sided with the GOCHS and found the fairs didn't have any constitutional rights. Would you like someone to walk in your yard and take one of your personal possession and just drive away? That is exactly what these people did. If they did have evidence to some wrong doing, they could have been professional and conducted themselves in a manner that was equal to the law.

All of the 'idle' excuses about WHY the judicial system sided with the Fair's does not change the fact they are inhumane people running a mass breeding mill for profit only. No regard for the animals whatsoever. Evidence..hahaha If they didn't want to see they didn't see..the photos are there, the Sheriff, eyewitnesses and two 'IMPARTIAL' vets stated there was abuse.

The judicial system could have given the dogs to an impartial vet, taken the photos for what they were about and the word of two vets that did examine the dogs. Who's word did they take? Bob Page...THE FAIR's PERSONAL VET WHO WAS THEIR PERSONAL VET DURING THE 2004 ANIMAL ABUSE CASE!!! That says it all!!!

You may choose to state what you have been misinformed. Dr. Bob Page is an educated vet with 25 years experience. The only vet the GOCHS is saying examined the animals was Dr. Martin, whom agreed with Dr. Page's statements on the stand during the civil hearing referring to custody of the animals.

Mary Jo and James William ‘Bud’ Fair Gibson/Obion County TN (not the 2004 neglect case) this is the second occurring in July 2007.

No one has to wait on the 'courts' to know what the facts are!

The puppy house on the inside, each cage has a slick fiberglass bottom. Mom and puppies pee on the smooth surface and puppies can't get traction to stand up and therefore are lying in the urine for days. The inside fiberglass cages has a door to the outside. The mom and puppies when tall enough go out the door into the outside world. They are then walking on wire bottoms. The puppies feet are still so small they fall through the wire floor. When and if they can get their little feet pulled back up, they try to open the door to go back inside. They can't because they don't know how to take their nose and open the door from the side like their mother has learned after living in that cage for years. Once they are outside, they are STUCK out there unless someone happens to find them and climbs upon a ladder and reaches way inside the wire cage to free them. If they are stuck outside for some time, don't worry about the 90 degree heat, they have shade? Sure, a piece of corrugated fiberglass above their heads that is full of feces from the cage above that falling down onto it. It then runs over onto the cage below and into where this little puppy is standing with his foot through the wire waiting to be found!

The affidavits said that in Dr. Martin's opinion, the dogs were malnourished, neglected and in need of medical treatment. There was also a mother dog with 6 week old puppies that had to be taken from her per DR. MARTIN, because she needed to be spayed because her uterus was in the process of coming out of her body because of over breeding!!!!!

Neglect is neglect!

When Dr. Martin was put on the witness stand and asked if stress from the move could have caused some of the health problems, he answered yes. Is Dr. Martin still stands by all the statements that he has given? Where is that moma now because Dr. Page has stated that the momas he has custody of have not been altered. Could it be the moma that the GOCHS failed to return? The court ordered that all animals be turned over to Dr. Page. Are they trying to keep a few select dogs for themselves? Where is the French Bulldog puppy that they were ask about in the courtroom?

Hi OStarr - let me explain, unlike you, I am not pro GOCHS.(That’s me being facetious because you include your dislike for the GOCHS in every post.) For you it is obviusly about a backwoods fued not about the wellbeing of the dogs. I am PRO HUMANE TREATMENT OF ANIMALS. I am against lazy humans living off of over breeding animals for a living and those that support neglect. You obviously have a problem with a ‘group’ of people. I, on the other hand, have a problem with animal neglect for the almighty dollar. You dislike the GOCHS, that’s your personal problem!! What has happened is that these poor dogs have gotten caught in the middle of those whining about who should have gotten custody. Their well being has been ignored. AN IMPARTIAL vet or organization should have been granted custody. Why wasn't an impartial vet or organization granted custody? One doesn't need a big imagination to figure that out. The photos of the 2004 neglect case are far TOO obvious to have been ignored. The photos of the 2007 neglect case are far TOO obvious to have been ignored. Everyone sees TWO cases brought against Mary Jo and William James 'Bud' Fair (involving some of the same backers) and everyone sees both were excused. You may try to candy coat who did what. You may try to make excuses for why this injustice was carried out. I will go by the facts reported and stay out of the petty fued that you and a few have with GOCHS. IT was and IT remains to be about neglect of dogs. Neglect because SOME do not want to get out and work for a living…and SOME do not care to stop them from neglecting animals !!!!!!!!

I personally think that all animals should be treated humanely, but know that an animal is an animal and not a human. I do not think I have said anything in the dislikes of the people of the GOCHS, although I have stated that their actions are in the wrong. If they would like to take animals away from the people who beat, burn, or drag their animals like in cases that you hear about that aren't so much in the public eye then I would support the organization. Everyone wants to talk about how easy the Fair's have it and how much money they are making. If you truely cared for animals you would see that it isn't easy work nor is it a lot of money.

Thanks OStarr, again all you have done is talk about how GOCHS handled this so poorly and how the Fair’s should be allowed to neglect and cage dogs for mass breeding. Obviously the DA and the Sheriff saw enough to file charges against the Fair's! Obviously this is Mary Jo and William James 'Bud' Fair's SECOND offense! Your rambling on and on about how the dogs should not have been rescued is telling your opinion of how dogs should be neglected. Housed in cages, away from loving arms, and kind words for nothing more than money! Nothing more than for people to USE and ABUSE for money! Obviously there were impartial vets that felt neglect WAS occurring. Obviously the 'judicial' system and the Fair's personal vet, Bob Page, found nothing wrong with any of this! This has put several counties and those supporting mass breeding into the public eye!
No one is talking about how easy the Fair's have it. Should they have it EASY making money off of mass breeding? NO! From photos of their home, they are Obviously not using the profits from mass breeding to improve that! It is the Fair's choice to live off of animals they cage, neglect and breed to death! Certainly no one is asking them to! Obviously it is ALL about the money for the Fair’s because the news reports state,“Mary Jo Fair advised, every day the dogs were not returned, they were loosing money because this is how they make a living!“Mary Jo Fair stated HER dogs were worth up to $50,000.00 and why she wanted them back”. I will repeat, if they're living was not being made off of neglecting and over-breeding dogs, this SECOND case would not be in the public eye. Obviously for them, it's easier to use and neglect animals than it is to get out and get REAL jobs. The Fair's CHOSE and continue to CHOOSE to do the same thing they were doing in 2004----Mass breeding and neglect of dogs!
You want compassion for the Fair's? Hre is a 'light bulb moment' for you - Compassion for those who USE and neglect animals for a living are due NO compassion.!

The only choice the Fair's have made is to exercise their constitutional rights as citizens of the United States. If you want to accept the actions of others trying to take that RIGHT away, then you are one of them. To me this is another act of terriorism among citizens of our country. People dwell on what happened at 9/11, but that and this is simply one organization not agreeing with what another group of people do. That does not make it illegal, only a hazard for the way others will take the law into their own hands.

I don't think this case can be compared to the tragedy of 9/11. I am a breeder but not that many animals. Some don't like what I do. It is my right to breed as long as I do not break any laws. Those against breeding are just as opinonated as those that are for it. I waited for the judge to rule on this case. I hope some changes are made and the dogs are taken care of.

Thanks kellyk for letting me know how you received my information. I was only trying to put into perspective that this is terrorist actions. When another organation tries to intimidate, control, and harm someone else it should be consider terrorism.

I know that all breeders from everywhere are watching this case. I know that everyone who operates a kennel knows that the work is ongoing. Breeders are always updating their facilities, managing their medications, and researching animals.

OStarr wrote:

Thanks kellyk for letting me know how you received my information. I was only trying to put into perspective that this is terrorist actions. When another organation tries to intimidate, control, and harm someone else it should be consider terrorism.
I know that all breeders from everywhere are watching this case. I know that everyone who operates a kennel knows that the work is ongoing. Breeders are always updating their facilities, managing their medications, and researching animals.

Terroristic actions?! I believe you have made an inappropriate and erroneous analogy comparing the Fair's situation with September 11th. The term "terrorist" is used incorrectly by many since 2001. Some use it as a scare tactic or for its shock value. I think that's what you have done in this case. Bottom line: You're wrong!!

it could be that the dogs were not in the coustody of dr. marting long enought to have any medical treatment. the fairs were afraid there were going to lose a few bucks...not concerned about their dog.

OStarr wrote:

When Dr. Martin was put on the witness stand and asked if stress from the move could have caused some of the health problems, he answered yes. Is Dr. Martin still stands by all the statements that he has given? Where is that moma now because Dr. Page has stated that the momas he has custody of have not been altered. Could it be the moma that the GOCHS failed to return? The court ordered that all animals be turned over to Dr. Page. Are they trying to keep a few select dogs for themselves? Where is the French Bulldog puppy that they were ask about in the courtroom?

OStarr wrote:
When Dr. Martin was put on the witness stand and asked if stress from the move could have caused some of the health problems, he answered yes. Is Dr. Martin still stands by all the statements that he has given? Where is that moma now because Dr. Page has stated that the momas he has custody of have not been altered. Could it be the moma that the GOCHS failed to return? The court ordered that all animals be turned over to Dr. Page. Are they trying to keep a few select dogs for themselves? Where is the French Bulldog puppy that they were ask about in the courtroom?

the HS or dr martin didn't have the dogs long enough for anyone to do anything. they couldn't bathe all of them and have one vet check out that many dogs in the short time they had them. The court forced HS to give the dogs to dr. page quick. How many dogs did he get? i've see no reports on the dogs since the fair's vet got them. sounds like you are accusing the HS of keeping or trying to steal some of the dogs. From the photos posted the owners didn't take care about the dogs...they cared about the money. yeah where are the reports on why dr martins opinion of neglect disappeared? things like neglect don't change and moving dogs doesn't cause urine and poop burns. still lots of questions cause some things just don't add up.

I still have not received an answer to where the missing dogs and puppies are. As far as not having long enough to observe the dogs, you should only remove the animals when they are immediate danger. If it was taking that long to observe, then they must have not have been in immediate danger.

I believe that the GOCHS acted too fast. If they truely wanted to help a situation, why don't they offer an educatinal class or give citation on what to fix and return to check it out? This is just something they should think about in the future.

OStarr said: I still have not received an answer to where the missing dogs and puppies are. As far as not having long enough to observe the dogs, you should only remove the animals when they are immediate danger. If it was taking that long to observe, then they must have not have been in immediate danger.
I believe that the GOCHS acted too fast. If they truely wanted to help a situation, why don't they offer an educatinal class or give citation on what to fix and return to check it out? This is just something they should think about in the future.

Thanks ostarr. strange dogs are missing and no reports of it. you can't accuse hs of stealing because the owners vet had the dogs to. why hasn't missing dogs been reported?

from the pictures someone should have removed the dogs a long time ago. JMO i don't think they should wait til dogs are half dead to do something. That would be neglect on the hs part. reports are the owners were in this business for years. they were in trouble for neglect of dogs 2004. why do you think giving them a citation or telling them to fix anything now would make them change?