Seven sightings of mountain lions in Marin reported since July

I guess we'll have to wait until someone is killed before we do anything about these predators. And it will happen, count on it.

Agent Smith wrote:

I guess we'll have to wait until someone is killed before we do anything about these predators. And it will happen, count on it.

good . natural selection in action. Start with the city and county officials.

Nicely watered gardens = deer = mtn lions. Duh. So best way to have fewer of 'em is... deer-proof your yards and encourage your neighbors to do the same. And don't feed your pets outside. And empty pet water bowls and bring your pets in before dark.

Oh, and yes, if you move into foothills, expect foothill fauna. Also duh. You can't shoot all the deer, therefore you won't get rid of all of the mountain lions.

Seriously, people.

Go change your shorts and deal with living in a wonderful County surrounded by Open Space.

California has no formal management plan for mountain lions.

Mountain Lions have no natural predators in California to keep their populations in check, so it's just a matter of time until there will be avoidable tragedy(s) before this is corrected.

There have been many unsuccessful attempts by variuos lawmakers to introduce legislation that would overturn Proposition 117's lion-hunting restrictions, but the California urban population centers around San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego rule the roost and they've been told the story about "nice little kitty". This will hit home like a ton of bricks and it will be sad for those victims and their families when this comes to a head.

who was in the area first ? thats right the cat so do not invite them if you do not want them . here kittie kittie

Cougar got the munchies while snacking on illegal aliens pot farm up in the watershed, came down for a meal of some dumb liberal suburbanites pet deer. Obama's fault!

Oh, I thought the story was about the other kind of cougars.

No Management Plan wrote:

California has no formal management plan for mountain lions.
Mountain Lions have no natural predators in California to keep their populations in check, so it's just a matter of time until there will be avoidable tragedy(s) before this is corrected.
There have been many unsuccessful attempts by variuos lawmakers to introduce legislation that would overturn Proposition 117's lion-hunting restrictions, but the California urban population centers around San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego rule the roost and they've been told the story about "nice little kitty". This will hit home like a ton of bricks and it will be sad for those victims and their families when this comes to a head.

If you have ever taken an environmental science or a biology class you would know that populations of predators are generally low because they heavily depend on their prey. The more prey that are present, the more predators. When the predator populations becomes to high, they overeat their food source, therefore lowering it and leading to their own death. This keeps the mountain lion population pretty steady. Another example of this in Marin is the bobcat. They are rarely seen around here, but are present.

If hunting was aloud, they would probably become extinct which would be detrimental for the ecosystem in Marin.

No Management Plan wrote:

...Mountain Lions have no natural predators in California to keep their populations in check...

I understand your viewpoint but also see pollution and encroachment hindering their day to day activities more so than your run of the mill predator.

If its in my yard I am threatened and I got the gun.

Whoa...I actually learned something from this reading the IJ. I was unaware that a favorite suburban food of catamounts was feral/outdoor housecats. That is great. I like these guys more and more. Ironic that it is a cat that takes care of horrible eco damaging feral house cats. That is awesome. I was wondering why the coyotes moved away from the area in recent times...more lions coming in.

DZinMarin wrote:

Whoa...I actually learned something from this reading the IJ. I was unaware that a favorite suburban food of catamounts was feral/outdoor housecats. That is great. I like these guys more and more. Ironic that it is a cat that takes care of horrible eco damaging feral house cats. That is awesome. I was wondering why the coyotes moved away from the area in recent times...more lions coming in.

that's a little cold.

Bueberry wrote:

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If you have ever taken an environmental science or a biology class you would know that populations of predators are generally low because they heavily depend on their prey. The more prey that are present, the more predators. When the predator populations becomes to high, they overeat their food source, therefore lowering it and leading to their own death. This keeps the mountain lion population pretty steady. Another example of this in Marin is the bobcat. They are rarely seen around here, but are present.
If hunting was aloud, they would probably become extinct which would be detrimental for the ecosystem in Marin.

There actually loads of bobcats in and around Marin country. I am well traveled in the more "wild" parts of the watershed land. And have seen many a bobcat on early morning/late afternoon jaunts. As for the cougars. Only 1 in all my travels. To be expected, since Bobcats are more successful, smaller and have more prey options around here. We even have a male that has claimed the area around my property as his current territory. Have seen him probably 10 times in the last year.
As to your original statement...there is a slight problem with that. When the lions overproduce and have a population that is unsustainable, that is when problems occur. Noted attacks many times occur with stressed mothers trying to feed cubs(usually 2). Desperation makes them roam closer to people and take chances with what they decide to attack. Also young inexperienced animals being pushed out of territories are problems. Both cases could apply to the lions in Marin. I could endorse "removal" of problem cats. But at this time, nothing has happened to justify it.

yes but wrote:

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that's a little cold.

It is, yes. But I have personally seen what house cats that are breeding out of control do to the surrounding area. They are pretty bad to the surrounding natural areas. I have had some close bonds to lovely housecats. I knew a Maine Coon(not mine but a gf's) that was great...he was almost a dog in temperament...smart, loyal and loving. That still doesn't change the fact that feral cats are a scurge.

Coyotes, skunks and cougars. It's a jungle out there. Still safer than Boro City.

I certainly wouldn't call them "horrible". I'd call then victims. And, they're not living their ideal life, trust me. There at the mercy of cars, creeps, critters, and more and must eke out their survival somehow.

And, that means eating whatever they can find...just like any other animal in the wild.

That's certainly not their fault. Look to irresponsible people for that. They're your scourge.

Cougars in the 80's were known to be sighted at Baxter's, The Cantina, and the 2am Club. Since then, it's just not the same.

Pot Smoking Moronite wrote:

Cougars in the 80's were known to be sighted at Baxter's, The Cantina, and the 2am Club. Since then, it's just not the same.

And in the 60's and 70's were sighted at the Trident, Wimbledon, Sid & Jim's, Ancient Mariner, Old Mill Tavern, Uncle Charlies, Seetwater, Black Oak Saloon, Positively Fourth Street and more.

Like the illegals, if nothing is done, we will have "anchor," kittens, and you know the rest of the story.