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DISGUSTED SC BASEBALL FAN

Mount Hope, WV

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May 4, 2012
 
I know I am not alone with my concerns with SC Little League baseball. The antics with the coaches and staff have set South Charleston baseball back by 10 years. The coaches all have agendas by wanting to coach just to allow their son or daughter the opportunity to play them in the key positions where they do not belong. These coaches need to be weeded out before they destroy South Charleston baseball. SC was the premier place for baseball years ago. The coaches actually were teaching coaches without hidden agendas and you could actually watch your child develop skills. Not so much now. Very disappointing to watch this system crumble before your eyes. SC needs new faces starting at the top with the sticky paws of president of league.
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#2
May 4, 2012
 
The whole coaches kid thing has always been that way even when I played 10 years ago.
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#3
Sep 14, 2012
 
It is terrible and has been for years. Im so happy to away from it all.
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Brooklyn, NY

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Oct 5, 2012
 

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DISGUSTED SC BASEBALL FAN wrote:
I know I am not alone with my concerns with SC Little League baseball. The antics with the coaches and staff have set South Charleston baseball back by 10 years. The coaches all have agendas by wanting to coach just to allow their son or daughter the opportunity to play them in the key positions where they do not belong. These coaches need to be weeded out before they destroy South Charleston baseball. SC was the premier place for baseball years ago. The coaches actually were teaching coaches without hidden agendas and you could actually watch your child develop skills. Not so much now. Very disappointing to watch this system crumble before your eyes. SC needs new faces starting at the top with the sticky paws of president of league.
Agendas? Your an idiot! Not saying the coaches at SCLL aren't idiots either, but if your child was good enough he would play those key positions. Contrary to what some delusional parents think, it's almost impossible to hide someone on the field of play or keep there bat out of the lineup. I know your going to rant on about how unfair they are or was, but I assure you if you took 20 coaches after a few practices they would have your child in the same position and getting the same amount of time. Of course you see you child as being better than everyone else on the planet sees him/her. Work with your child more. Don't let your child hear you bitch about the coaches or his playing time. They will buy onto it and you will start your child on a roller coaster ride in life where they start blaming others for there short comings. You will get more out of it and in the long run your child will benefit more from that them batting 3 or 4 times a game and playing those "key positions"
Neverwillchange

Charleston, WV

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#5
Jan 18, 2013
 
SCLL is a joke... There are to many agendas by most of the managers and coaches. There are plenty of great players that get pushed back because the managers are only there to make sure there son/daughter get to play. Take a good long look at SCLL and you will see that they are a laughing stock of the valley. Talk to any parent or board member from another LL and they will tell you that SCLL is crooked as can be.
Mo

Saylorsburg, PA

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#6
Jan 18, 2013
 
Neverwillchange wrote:
SCLL is a joke... There are to many agendas by most of the managers and coaches. There are plenty of great players that get pushed back because the managers are only there to make sure there son/daughter get to play. Take a good long look at SCLL and you will see that they are a laughing stock of the valley. Talk to any parent or board member from another LL and they will tell you that SCLL is crooked as can be.
You can't hide talent. Although I don't coach in SC anymore, I watch most of the games in the major and minor levels. SC use to pride them selves on good coaches. The coaching they have there now is flat out horrible, but they aren't hold anyone back because they put there kids first. You can't hide talent. There are 9 kids that get to hit, 9 kids that get to field and I assure you if your kid could pitch they would get a shot. In baseball you can't hide talent and you statement about holding a kid back has no merit what so ever. I know you won't agree, but it's honestly the truth and because you think your kid is being slighted you won't see it any different and I'm sure you have imbedded it into your kids head. Why not work with him more? Remember practice makes perfect and don't rely on coaches to improve you kids skills.
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Richmond, VA

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#7
Jan 18, 2013
 
Bring back sonny holstein and john fenwick go yankees
Neverwillchange

Saylorsburg, PA

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Jan 23, 2013
 
Mo wrote:
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You can't hide talent. Although I don't coach in SC anymore, I watch most of the games in the major and minor levels. SC use to pride them selves on good coaches. The coaching they have there now is flat out horrible, but they aren't hold anyone back because they put there kids first. You can't hide talent. There are 9 kids that get to hit, 9 kids that get to field and I assure you if your kid could pitch they would get a shot. In baseball you can't hide talent and you statement about holding a kid back has no merit what so ever. I know you won't agree, but it's honestly the truth and because you think your kid is being slighted you won't see it any different and I'm sure you have imbedded it into your kids head. Why not work with him more? Remember practice makes perfect and don't rely on coaches to improve you kids skills.
I am not talking about my kids they are grown now and always played, it is not that the kids aren't good there are great players that get shafted so these coaches/managers can play there no talent kids and make them feel good. If you spend anytime at the rock you will see what I'm talking about! There is also a problem with kids from other areas playing in SC, there use to be a rule about this but I guess since SC doesn't follow the other rules why would they follow this one if it still exists.
Mo

Charleston, WV

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Jan 24, 2013
 
Neverwillchange wrote:
<quoted text>I am not talking about my kids they are grown now and always played, it is not that the kids aren't good there are great players that get shafted so these coaches/managers can play there no talent kids and make them feel good. If you spend anytime at the rock you will see what I'm talking about! There is also a problem with kids from other areas playing in SC, there use to be a rule about this but I guess since SC doesn't follow the other rules why would they follow this one if it still exists.
Trust me I have seen many games including this past season. I've coached long enough I can watch a team warm up and tell you with pretty good accuracy how good of a ball player each kid is. Then after that take a few swing and I get a look at there mechanics I will have a good idea how good of a hitter they are, same for pitchers, after a few pitches I can I know good of a pitcher they are. I'm not being cocky or anything, but I've been doing this for many many years at different levels of baseball and I currently have 2 sons playing college baseball.

1) explain to me how a coach even if he plays his son more innings than he should or plays him at a position he shoulda ( it's true this does go on here and there) but how is that holding a great player back lol. With 9 positions on the field and 9 slots in the batting order and a pitch count rule there is no way in hell you can hold a kid back that is talented, no way! Does the coach have 9 sons on the team? Honestly think about it.

2) I can assure you that zero kids are playing at SC from other areas. You honestly don't know of what you speak. For one I know of 2 kids personally that were new to the area and lived on the border of Mountaineer Little League and South Charleston Little League, but based on boundaries the two brothers were in Mountaineer and Sharon Musgrave turned them away and rightfully so. Apparently you haven't managed an all-star team in the past 12 years since Danny Almonte played in the Little League World Series illegally. Since roughly 2002 LL has made it very very difficult to play out if district, hell it's even hard to prove a legit in boundary kid that has lived in the same house his entire life has his paper work approved by District 3.

With all do respect you honestly don't have a clue what your talking about. Plus, why try to throw a league under the bus if you don't know what you speak. It really makes you look silly.
Neverwillchange

Charleston, WV

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#10
Feb 5, 2013
 
Apparently you do not know what you are talking about... I know for a FACT that SCLL has at least 7 kids that I know for sure who live in Dunbar playing and 2 living in Nitro playing I SCLL. I can prove it. I suspect a few more but can't verify their addresses. It is Karen Musgrave not Sharon!!!!! I know alot more than you think and can prove it all just feel that it is up to the league to enforce these rules and they are not. At least 2 of the kids from Dunbars dads are Managers for SCLL, that is really sticking to the rules. And you can hold kids back, all you have to so is not play him except his 2 and 1( hope you know what it is) and then not pick them for Allstars. The managers have a click and last yr picked the Allstar teams with no tryouts this way they could put all the managers kids on it and not have to worry. If they had had tryouts then most of them would not have made it. It is in by laws that the players tryout not just be picked by who your dad is. I can back up everything that I have said can you I think not.
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Saylorsburg, PA

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Feb 5, 2013
 
Neverwillchange wrote:
Apparently you do not know what you are talking about... I know for a FACT that SCLL has at least 7 kids that I know for sure who live in Dunbar playing and 2 living in Nitro playing I SCLL. I can prove it. I suspect a few more but can't verify their addresses. It is Karen Musgrave not Sharon!!!!! I know alot more than you think and can prove it all just feel that it is up to the league to enforce these rules and they are not. At least 2 of the kids from Dunbars dads are Managers for SCLL, that is really sticking to the rules. And you can hold kids back, all you have to so is not play him except his 2 and 1( hope you know what it is) and then not pick them for Allstars. The managers have a click and last yr picked the Allstar teams with no tryouts this way they could put all the managers kids on it and not have to worry. If they had had tryouts then most of them would not have made it. It is in by laws that the players tryout not just be picked by who your dad is. I can back up everything that I have said can you I think not.
I know the league very well. I know the allstar teams too, my son almost made it but he didn't. The team they put on the field was the correct team. I assure you your son wasn't left off. In your opinion maybe, but that is parent biased no way was you kid left off. If you think so your crazy.
Neverwillchange

Charleston, WV

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#12
Feb 5, 2013
 
JN wrote:
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I know the league very well. I know the allstar teams too, my son almost made it but he didn't. The team they put on the field was the correct team. I assure you your son wasn't left off. In your opinion maybe, but that is parent biased no way was you kid left off. If you think so your crazy.
Did you read the other posts? My son is out of high school so not sure what your talking about "my son" I am talking in general terms and referring to situations that I know are going on in SCLL. Why have rules if the board and President do not follow them is main statement that I'm making residency requirements are put in place by LL in Williamsport and not followed!
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#13
Mar 27, 2013
 
Hey I want to coach to get my kids ahead. When are the tryouts, I will be in town soon.....Seriously, when are the tryouts.
out of district

Charleston, WV

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#14
Mar 31, 2013
 
info needed wrote:
Hey I want to coach to get my kids ahead. When are the tryouts, I will be in town soon.....Seriously, when are the tryouts.
Tryouts are over. Teams are already formed and practicing.....and as far as kids from out of district goes whoever said that zero were able to play don't know what they are talking about...my son played from out of district last year and this year also and we are even further out of district this year than last..I hate when someone brags that they know everything when in reality they know nothing
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Mar 31, 2013
 
out of district wrote:
<quoted text>Tryouts are over. Teams are already formed and practicing.....and as far as kids from out of district goes whoever said that zero were able to play don't know what they are talking about...my son played from out of district last year and this year also and we are even further out of district this year than last..I hate when someone brags that they know everything when in reality they know nothing
No go complain that your kid isn't playing enough and your season will be complete lol.
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Charleston, WV

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#16
Mar 31, 2013
 
No complaints from me or I wouldn't drive as far as I do to have my son in so chas baseball. From what I have seen all the coaches play there team the way they should with the exception of one coach last year wasn't rotating his players and was forced to forfit at least 2 games that I know of.
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Charleston, WV

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Mar 31, 2013
 
out of district wrote:
No complaints from me or I wouldn't drive as far as I do to have my son in so chas baseball. From what I have seen all the coaches play there team the way they should with the exception of one coach last year wasn't rotating his players and was forced to forfit at least 2 games that I know of.
That's the reason you are driving so far. I know who you are. Where you going to run when you don't get your way at SC?
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Charleston, WV

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#18
Mar 31, 2013
 
You have no clue who I am..sc is the only place my son has ever played...I have never ran from anywhere..dont know who u think ur talking to but its obviously the wrong person...u know what they say happens when u assume right?
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#19
Apr 10, 2013
 
Everything written here is so true - I also know for a fact that several kids from Dunbar have played for years. My guess is the reason some get turned away is because they aren't playing the "political game" or aren't in the "click" with the board members. The so called try-outs end up with stacked teams and unless a parent is willing to cozy up with the board members and become a member of the click, their kid will continue to be placed on mediocre teams and have zero chance of making any all-star team. The all-stars have been political for 30+ yrs but to stack teams with all the heavy hitter/pitchers and leave several teams that end up 0-20 for the season is wrong. The teams should be balanced with some great/average/still learning players so that everyone learns the game and improves their skills. And there should be some criteria set for all-stars to make it more fair than who the parent is/who the parent is friends with.
So true

Charleston, WV

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Apr 11, 2013
 
Go WVU wrote:
Everything written here is so true - I also know for a fact that several kids from Dunbar have played for years. My guess is the reason some get turned away is because they aren't playing the "political game" or aren't in the "click" with the board members. The so called try-outs end up with stacked teams and unless a parent is willing to cozy up with the board members and become a member of the click, their kid will continue to be placed on mediocre teams and have zero chance of making any all-star team. The all-stars have been political for 30+ yrs but to stack teams with all the heavy hitter/pitchers and leave several teams that end up 0-20 for the season is wrong. The teams should be balanced with some great/average/still learning players so that everyone learns the game and improves their skills. And there should be some criteria set for all-stars to make it more fair than who the parent is/who the parent is friends with.
It's sad to see such politics in little league. SC is the worst, you may have 2 Board Members who are not trash and actually in it for the children. I wish the city would take it over.

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