Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#142720 May 26, 2012
Terminal Velocity wrote:
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You know I find it funny that they can never give a coherent answer,or any answer for that matter to your question about indicating what legitimate state interest is served by denying same sex couples "Equal" protection under the law the exact same as hetero couples! I have seen this question asked numerous times by you and many others and never an answer that makes any logical sense what so ever Dodge,dodge,dodge is what they are best at!
To qualify for equal protection, they have to qualify for equal identity.
The only identity gay unions have with marriage is two people.
7394

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#142721 May 26, 2012
Bully called One wrote:
<quoted text>Here is One....internet forum bully.

Tell them how you destroyed the Ukiah Forum, One.

This topic fits your profile of intolerance, are you gonna start 500 inflammatory threads on this forum, too?
no mikey
Unless the troll and his fat squaw start trolling again..........LOL

What happened to the wine packing job???

Did your boss catch you posting on the Internet all day??

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#142722 May 26, 2012
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
You lack truth like the Mojave Desert lacks water. I never saw any truth in any of your rants or I'd be agreeing with them.
Help??
LOL!!!
Takes one to know one?? No...it's about the ability to tell right and wrong. If I saw some bozo shooting little puppy dogs in his front yard with a shotgun I'd stop him too but it didn't take being a canine to figure out what action to take moron.
My defects??? I don't use 'spellcheck' in here for one which no doubt causes some to up their Excedrine usage. My wife says I dress like I shop at Ross so I have to clean that up. I stay up too late. Helll...I have a lot of defects Junior and I face them but none of those defects include being a certified nutter who needs a typed letter to walk the streets of my neighborhood like you...LOL!!!
Your continued ad hominem attacks still don't change the truth I stated, does it.

At this point, someone with a validated qualification for engaging is kicking your ass (and your wife would probably agree, right?).

I'd suggest you do as I suggested. Ask your family and friends if they thing you might need a letter. I would really like to know their response.

Smile.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#142724 May 26, 2012
Hates pedophiles wrote:
<quoted text>Oh yes you have! You've posted all over the net that pedophilia with little boys bestiality should be legal. YouÂ’ve even bragged that one of the major reasons why you ran to Mexico is because you can pursue your sex acts with little boys with impunity.

Prove you didn't say any such thing.
please tell us why you can't post any links to these sites???????

Waiting.........ROTFLMAO
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#142725 May 26, 2012
Dan wrote:
<quoted text>
Listen stupid....is being straight and popping out 30 offspring to 11 different women essential to our 'existance'???
Because dumbfuck that's what some straight male just managed and guesswhat...the story line was that he wanted "the state" to pick up his child support bill because he felt the need to go whoring around a few years earlier.
Integrity? You lack it bud. Gay is not the new black. That I'll agree opon but the simularities are present and undeniable asshat and those are discriminating against a grouping of people based on thier makeup which in fact their makeup creates no viable harm.
Now MORON....gfo find harm in gays...gays marrying or the fact you just don't like homosexuals or piss off because my little buttercup punk that's how it works - you don't have the power to inflict your opinion into other American citizens freedoms unless those freedoms or liberties include harm.
And "gay agenda"...LOL!!! The onlt "gay agenda" I've seen shitforbrains is that homosexuals want to be equal.
Well...let 'em...and get a LIFE of your own for Christ's sake loser.
"Stupid"
"Dumbfuck"
"Ass hat"
"Moron"
"my little buttercup punk"
"shitforbrains"
"loser"

You sure know how to win people over Dan. I'm sure he sees your point and is now in favor of same sex marriage. YUK!YUK!YUK!

Dan wrote "...you don't have the power to inflict your opinion into other American citizens..."
You don't either, Dan. Not even if you turn them into a human pretzel.

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#142726 May 26, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
correct
And we are close to the numbers for that
Just wait until November..........LOL
Also Mitt could write a EO and ban it nationwide
Sorry, but no Romney CAN'T write an Executive Order banning ANYTHING.....He would be trampling on the States right to define marriage and he'd be violating the Constitution!!!

Again, INDIVIDUAL STATES BY THEMSELVES DON'T MATTER WITH REGARDS TO A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT!!!

Since: Nov 11

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#142727 May 26, 2012
Bill Of Rights wrote:
<quoted text>
And you would be wrong about blacks once again! Here is the latest national poll on how blacks now feel about marriage equality! Sorry,but 59% of blacks are now in support of it! And maybe according to you there are NO marriages between couples of the same sex but yours is but an opinion! What does count LEGALLY is what the state says,if they say it is legal it is in fact legal! Who cares what an old bigoted opinionated fool thinks!
Blacks now support marriage equality by 59%
www.langerresearch.com/uploads/1137a2GayMarri...
news.yahoo.com/strong-support-gay-marriage-no...
I AM BLACK. I know more black people than you do, and I know what the black people I know are saying and I know my culture. Black people have not changed their stance on this issue, and those polls are misleading. How many people were samples, and where and when? Everyone who has read those polls says the same thing: SKEWED BY THE GAY ADVOCATES.

If there is so much support, then lets continue putting this gay marriage thing to a vote in the states. What will happen is that 80% or more blacks will vote against it, and at least 30% of whites and 30% of Hispanics will vote against it.

Gay marriage has NEVER been voted for in any state in the United States. Blacks have consistently shown by their voting record on this issue that they do not support it. Homosexuality itself is not supported by blacks or Asians or most Hispanics. Its a fact, and your poll is ridiculous.
Give these figures:

How many people sampled? Where were they sampled? Posting that reveals it to be a sham.

BTW, I am not a Christian or Muslim or part of any organized religion.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#142729 May 26, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>No, I have never made a threat. I'm sure you have me confused with another fan of yours, you have so many. The Amazon rain forest doesn't thrive as the Mojave desert does, does it genius? I already answered that question, why the short term memory? pot? Nothing against gays, just want to keep the marriage the traditional man woman. You have a problem with that? are you a bigot or something? why do u call them "them". are u ashamed to call them gay? or homosexual or Lesbian? You act like a lot of stupid people here that this argument needs to be WON here. Do you think this topix on homosexual marriage here will make any any difference what so ever? I come here to mock how stupid you are, that's it.
Gee.... what a strange way to spend your time..... it sounds like you have issues with gay men. Hmmmmmm.......
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#142730 May 26, 2012
_Reality Speaks_ wrote:
<quoted text>
I AM BLACK. I know more black people than you do, and I know what the black people I know are saying and I know my culture. Black people have not changed their stance on this issue, and those polls are misleading. How many people were samples, and where and when? Everyone who has read those polls says the same thing: SKEWED BY THE GAY ADVOCATES.
If there is so much support, then lets continue putting this gay marriage thing to a vote in the states. What will happen is that 80% or more blacks will vote against it, and at least 30% of whites and 30% of Hispanics will vote against it.
Gay marriage has NEVER been voted for in any state in the United States. Blacks have consistently shown by their voting record on this issue that they do not support it. Homosexuality itself is not supported by blacks or Asians or most Hispanics. Its a fact, and your poll is ridiculous.
Give these figures:
How many people sampled? Where were they sampled? Posting that reveals it to be a sham.
BTW, I am not a Christian or Muslim or part of any organized religion.
So you think blacks are going to vote for Mitt Romney? Seriously?

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#142731 May 26, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
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Sorry, but no Romney CAN'T write an Executive Order banning ANYTHING.....He would be trampling on the States right to define marriage and he'd be violating the Constitution!!!
Again, INDIVIDUAL STATES BY THEMSELVES DON'T MATTER WITH REGARDS TO A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT!!!
Oslama violated the constitution in oslamacare......LOL
The patriot act
The food safety act.

Oslama says he can tell a state if they can have raw dairy, medical marijuana or even certain guns..........ROTFLMAO

And Yes Mitt could and will if necessary ban at the federal level SSM......

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#142732 May 26, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>
So you think blacks are going to vote for Mitt Romney? Seriously?
Yeh, blacks are owned by the left!

They can't think for themselves!

You tell them what to do Moans Alot!!!

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#142733 May 26, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeh, blacks are owned by the left!
They can't think for themselves!
You tell them what to do Moans Alot!!!
The tide is shifting....LOL

NewsOne Poll: 63% Of Respondents Don’t Support Obama On Gay Marriage

After the bombshell news story yesterday of President Barack Obama speaking out in support of gay marriage in a sit-down interview with ABC’s Robin Roberts, several voices in the African-American community rang out on the issue. NewsOne ran a story on the interview on Wednesday, which was heavily contested by readers. In the poll, we asked readers if they agreed with the President’s decision to support gay marriage. In the 22 hours since the poll has been live, more than 400 votes have come with an overwhelming 63 percent of readers in disagreement with President Obama’s stance.

http://newsone.com/2006909/63-of-newsone-poll...
Denise

Barstow, CA

#142734 May 26, 2012
Denise is driving to Joshua Tree, California?

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Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#142735 May 26, 2012
KiMare wrote:
You continue to find things to keep your lides closed to.
What law can change the fact that marriage is the foundational relationship of society and gay unions are a doubling of a genetic defect?
It certainly has been held to be a fundamental right by the US Supreme Court, however that damages rather than helps your position because fundamental rights may not be put to a vote.
As for homosexuality being a genetic defect, I would invite you to support that drunken boast by offering any reputable medical, scientific, or academic institution that would endorse your assertion.

Simply saying crap doesn’t make it true, and you don’t have any foundation for the BS you are spewing.
KiMare wrote:
Feel free to indicate a logical explanation how gay unions qualify for equal protection. I don't think you can.
“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws” US Constitution, 14th Amendment, Section 1
Marriage is a protection of the law in every state in the union.
Homosexuals are persons.
You’ve yet to offer a compelling state interest served by denying same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry, as required by the 14th Amendment, that would render such a restriction constitutional.

Well, that was easy.
KiMare wrote:
Smile.
That is "immaterial"???
I smile, because this is pretty much par for the course for what those opposed to marriage equality can think up, and it is less than stellar.

I sometimes wonder if you ever open your mouth except to change feet.

Since: Jun 07

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#142736 May 26, 2012
Bill Of Rights wrote:
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Yeah,Lets ask the Confederacy about the Federal Government begging for permission to seize power! LOLOLOL
So you use an example of violating the Constitution by the Federal Government as to somehow support that the Federal Government can do as it pleases?

Remember that the next time the Federal Government decides to say f-you, and you scream freedom.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#142737 May 26, 2012
Wat the Tyler wrote:
Gay people need to do everything to get Obama reelected this Nov. If not they will blame us if Obam loses. We can't allow Romney to win under any circumstances.
Why? So Obama can continue to do nothing for you?

Since: Jun 07

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#142738 May 26, 2012
The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:
<quoted text>Look asshat you claim that a state can overlook the Constitution. To change the constitution requires an amendment. But that is not what YOU claim!
No, asshat, you are the one who claims the judicial branch can change the Constitution without the consent of the States.

Since: Jun 07

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#142739 May 26, 2012
lides wrote:
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Did you mean to say repeal the 13th Amendment?
<quoted text>
You are hardly one to talk, since you have just suggested that we "appeal the 13th Amendment."
Yawn..

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Mexico

#142740 May 26, 2012
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
It certainly has been held to be a fundamental right by the US Supreme Court, however that damages rather than helps your position because fundamental rights may not be put to a vote.
As for homosexuality being a genetic defect, I would invite you to support that drunken boast by offering any reputable medical, scientific, or academic institution that would endorse your assertion.
Simply saying crap doesn’t make it true, and you don’t have any foundation for the BS you are spewing.
<quoted text>
“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws” US Constitution, 14th Amendment, Section 1
Marriage is a protection of the law in every state in the union.
Homosexuals are persons.
You’ve yet to offer a compelling state interest served by denying same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry, as required by the 14th Amendment, that would render such a restriction constitutional.
Well, that was easy.
<quoted text>
I smile, because this is pretty much par for the course for what those opposed to marriage equality can think up, and it is less than stellar.
I sometimes wonder if you ever open your mouth except to change feet.
It is the gay community that claims they were born that way........ROTFLMAO

If that is the case then it must be a genetic defect as it is not normal........LOL

So is it a choice air a defect?????

Since: Jun 07

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#142741 May 26, 2012
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Translation: "Caught again, damn, oh well, better to try a feeble argument than admit I was wrong."
<quoted text>Slavery based on race, or pretty much any other suspect classification, wouldn't be allowed as long as the 14th Amendment remains in force. Unless ANYONE can be a slave and/or owner because slavery is a legally available option for EVERYONE (reasonable restrictions apply), or anyone kept out of the business on the basis of a suspect classification, would have varying degrees of an equal protection claim.
So much for your feeble defense of your original argument. The point remains.... If the country managed to survive more or less as it presently exists through the process of of actually repealing the 13th Amendment, slavery, beyond the current illegal trade (which would now be 'constitutionally protected', but not legal), wouldn't be an automatic, only a possibility, because the 14th isn't the only legal obstacle to its return. The laws which make the aforementioned, currently existing illegal trade illegal are another obstacle you failed to even address.
<quoted text>Screaming "slavery"? WTF? Buttercup, you're the one who ventured off to stupid when you screamed, that "slavery" would return if the country repealed the 13th Amendment. I just wanted to point out, that even in the incredibly unlikely event many of us would have lived to actually repeal the 13th, that wouldn't make "slavery" either constitutional or legal. THAT was your original point, now let's deal with your historical revisionism: <quoted text>Oh, so sorry, the correct answers would be: "While the founding fathers envisioned a federal government which managed a very limited range of the common interests of the quasi-independent states, the Constitution they wrote, gives the federal government a great deal of leeway in assuming most, if not almost all, of the powers they have assumed thus far. The now less than quasi-independent states, are able to "do as they please", a whole heck of a lot less today than they were back then, because that is the type of government the people have voted for. They remain bound by the constitutional guarantees of the rights of the individual and at the mercy of most decisions of the federal government and the only way to amend the Constitution and alter this arrangement is by permission of said federal government."
Remember, it's the states themselves and by extension, we the people, which have provided us with the self-perpetuating circus of a federal government we know today. To our credit however, we have established a system where it's a hell of a lot harder for the states to "do as they please" when it comes to screwing with OUR rights, especially in ways you're hypothesizing.
All that typing for nothing..

The 14th Amendment protects "Citizens"- with the repeal of the 13th the States could once again have slaves, which in turn would no longer qualify as citizens. There would be no need to repeal the 14th as well.

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