Proof we are entering into the tribulation

Dude wrote:

<quoted text>I wasn't aware you asked me a question. You told me to prove god does not exist. I'm not going to continue to try to explain the burden of proof anymore with you. If there's anything else you want to discuss about the issue I'd be happy to.

You tell me what u need exactly to prove there is a God, besides a picture of me and him together. It's all in black and white. Do u know how many references go along with the Bible? And how many goes along with Caesar Augustus? The Bible has over 20,000 references besides itself. Caesar? Try a couple thousand. Besides the faith that I have and you don't, your seriously fighting a losing battle. Did u know that scientists studying creation have actually turned around and decided there is no other explanation for creation, and u know where they turn? Yep, that's right. To God. But once that happens, the scientists get fired and shunned, so once that happens the scientists cannot stand up and tell others of what they've found. Those organizations won't allow them to speak on what the now believe. That's why u never hear about that in the media. Things that make u go hmmmm???

supdude wrote:

<quoted text>You tell me what u need exactly to prove there is a God, besides a picture of me and him together. It's all in black and white. Do u know how many references go along with the Bible? And how many goes along with Caesar Augustus? The Bible has over 20,000 references besides itself. Caesar? Try a couple thousand. Besides the faith that I have and you don't, your seriously fighting a losing battle. Did u know that scientists studying creation have actually turned around and decided there is no other explanation for creation, and u know where they turn? Yep, that's right. To God. But once that happens, the scientists get fired and shunned, so once that happens the scientists cannot stand up and tell others of what they've found. Those organizations won't allow them to speak on what the now believe. That's why u never hear about that in the media. Things that make u go hmmmm???

Wasn't trying to fight a battle, just have a discussion. There is no reason to be hostile towards me for disagreeing with you.

I'm just looking for any physical proof, anything at all.

I don't doubt there are scientists that have turned to creation for explanation. It's comforting to have a catch all explanation for things we don't yet understand, I get that.

I don't think I'm alone when I say I'm not satisfied with the rationale that if there is no scientific explanation for something, well then god did it. Organized religion as a whole is a bad thing in my opinion, and I just want people to ask questions and go beyond their comfort zone to find answers.

supdude wrote:

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You tell me what u need exactly to prove there is a God, besides a picture of me and him together. It's all in black and white. Do u know how many references go along with the Bible? And how many goes along with Caesar Augustus? The Bible has over 20,000 references besides itself. Caesar? Try a couple thousand. Besides the faith that I have and you don't, your seriously fighting a losing battle. Did u know that scientists studying creation have actually turned around and decided there is no other explanation for creation, and u know where they turn? Yep, that's right. To God. But once that happens, the scientists get fired and shunned, so once that happens the scientists cannot stand up and tell others of what they've found. Those organizations won't allow them to speak on what the now believe. That's why u never hear about that in the media. Things that make u go hmmmm???

Um, no...things that make me go hooray! It's about time we disregard superstitions and myths when searching for answers through EVIDENCE. We SHOULD ostracize those who claim to be intellectuals who believe in talking snakes.

Tax Man wrote:

<quoted text>OK atheist I'm calling it a night. I have answered 4 questions thus far and I will beging refutting your claims again tomorrow. Sleep well my lad...

You have tried to explain the contradictions by offering explanations of what the bible meant to say. I offered scriptures of what it actually said.

A bible full of what it "meant to say" would be a good read!

Look no further than the talking snake. We know for a FACT, it has been PROVEN, that snakes do NOT talk. You can explain what the passages of scripture 'meant to say' about that all you want, but it's in the bible as truth, and it has been proven wrong.

Dude wrote:

<quoted text>Okay waist (waste) of time, I read the article and it seems to be offering up non-biblical accounts of Jesus and the crucifixion, as well as early Christian rituals. What was your aim with this article?

No YOU are the WASTE of time. I'm Waist of time. You have major issues with reading into things and you don't know me so don't assume my intentions. You want physical proof then you need to physically go to Jerusalem and ask the people there. Oh but you have to go there 2012 years ago. There is no physical proof that will satisfy you because you have your mind made. I read earlier y'all want to go to Hell because of the people that are supposed to be there. The people you speak of will be in Hell with you so have fun y'all.
Lmao I am not afraid that there is no life after death. If not then what have I lost by leading a good life.
I'm staying off of here because you all make me extremely sad that there are such blinded people out there. I hope something brings you to your knees and you lean otherwise before its too late.

atheist wrote:

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You have tried to explain the contradictions by offering explanations of what the bible meant to say. I offered scriptures of what it actually said.
A bible full of what it "meant to say" would be a good read!
Look no further than the talking snake. We know for a FACT, it has been PROVEN, that snakes do NOT talk. You can explain what the passages of scripture 'meant to say' about that all you want, but it's in the bible as truth, and it has been proven wrong.

Quote: I offered scriptures of what it actually said.

Funny I saw no chapter and verse's. Admit it your stunned. You really thought a Christian wouldn't debunk ole Satan's therory.
Atheism is a complex term to define, and many definitions fail to capture the range of positions an atheist can hold. Perhaps the most obvious meaning to many ...

So since I debunked the first 4 questions it would probably be in my best interest not to correct you on the remaining questions. After all we saw the real snake talk......

Dude wrote:

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I have not seen any proof however I will give your links a read.
So every non-Christian in the world is full of demons? How is it clear that i am full of demons? You are making wild supernatural claims that hve no merit. Even if satan were real how would you know what he wants?
I have read the bible in the past as many of us are forced to do at some point. The bible is a book written by men in the bronze age and it is based on hearsay. It's the worlds oldest game of phone-a-friend. It's full of terrible things that any decent person couldn't possibly take as a moral guidance. Slavery, murder of children, and war? No thanks.
The reason I became an atheist is because I finally opened my eyes and started thinking for myself instead of following blindly as I had always done.

Read post 75, 76, and 77 and tell me that big bang did that.

There's a guy walking around right now named Dale Dodson aka "Bub", the simple fact that this mother trucker ain't been struck by lightening yet is all the proof I need that God doesn't exist.

Tax Man wrote:

<quoted text>Quote: I offered scriptures of what it actually said.

Funny I saw no chapter and verse's. Admit it your stunned. You really thought a Christian wouldn't debunk ole Satan's therory.
Atheism is a complex term to define, and many definitions fail to capture the range of positions an atheist can hold. Perhaps the most obvious meaning to many ...

So since I debunked the first 4 questions it would probably be in my best interest not to correct you on the remaining questions. After all we saw the real snake talk......

BANG!!

prove it wrote:

There's a guy walking around right now named Dale Dodson aka "Bub", the simple fact that this mother trucker ain't been struck by lightening yet is all the proof I need that God doesn't exist.

That's because we have a thing called 'free will'. God gave that to us, and it's up to us make the right decisions. If he's a bad guy, then his judgement shall come one day, and he will pay for his sins. He's been shown mercy and grace by God, giving him every opportunity to change his ways.

atheist wrote:

<quoted text>Um, no...things that make me go hooray! It's about time we disregard superstitions and myths when searching for answers through EVIDENCE. We SHOULD ostracize those who claim to be intellectuals who believe in talking snakes.

I don't believe in talking to snakes. It's not Biblical and what they choose to do is their own business. Do u believe in sacrificing animals in the middle of a pentagram? Cause man, no joke, if your living like there is no God, you might as well. Cause your either for him or against him. Disregard superstitions? Tell me, how can even the most simple mind not see there is God? Not only by faith, but just how bad it's gotten. For instance, in the 40's and 50's student problems were chewing gum and talking. In the 2000's rape and murder are the trend. Now, when was God taken out of schools? 1962. Do u see how bad the world has gotten? Cause I sure have in my 30+ years on earth. Now, people make mistakes,(I'm one of them) so u can't say this Christian did this, I heard a preacher did that. They are humans. The only one who is without sin is Jesus Christ. I don't care, Billy Graham has sinned. It's soooo evident that when God was taken out of schools and the government, that's when the world ended up going to hell in hand basket. Now, we can prove you wrong on every contradiction you think is in the Bible. The only thing we cannot do is give u hardcore evidence. I swear to you. That's right, I SWEAR to you. That one day, you will bow and confess that Jesus Christ is Lord. But by then, it will be too late. Hopefully with God's grace and mercy, you will do it sooner. Now, what if I'm right? Cause I'm pretty darn sure I am.

Forgot the times where all the Christians murdered innocent people and children during the witch trials because they believed they were doing right.

No one wanted to answer those questions I asked earlier just side stepped it probably because they can't answer

supdude wrote:

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That's because we have a thing called 'free will'. God gave that to us, and it's up to us make the right decisions. If he's a bad guy, then his judgement shall come one day, and he will pay for his sins. He's been shown mercy and grace by God, giving him every opportunity to change his ways.

Sorry, I can't believe in God, or Karma, or Fate or any of that bs. This POS has hit rock bottom 3 or 4 times now and has not made a change in his life. He swears on his precious children who he doesn't deserve to convince women he isn't lying so he can continue to use them for what he can get out of it. He is a sociopathic manipulator yet he and others like him just seem to skate through life with everybody bending over backwards to help them out no matter how bad he has screwed them over in the past. I once had hope for humanity, but years of dealing with snakes like him who use and hurt innocent people without a care has completely killed all the good will in me. I think if there is a God, and that God is good, that they or it would find a way to protect people from psychos like him.

lmao wrote:

Forgot the times where all the Christians murdered innocent people and children during the witch trials because they believed they were doing right.

Hey! Did u see what I just said? Christians are HUMAN!!! Humans SIN!! It's human nature. The only difference is we can be forgiven by asking for it.(and we truly in our hearts mean it) Also....has an atheist ever killed innocent people? Touché.

supdude wrote:

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Hey! Did u see what I just said? Christians are HUMAN!!! Humans SIN!! It's human nature. The only difference is we can be forgiven by asking for it.(and we truly in our hearts mean it) Also....has an atheist ever killed innocent people? Touché.

Like we've said, bad people do bad things. It takes religion for good people to do bad things. Yes, atheists have killed people--but the total number of people killed by atheists dwindles to an insignificant amount when compared to how many have been slaughtered for no reason other than in the name of 'god'(or allah or any other monotheistic diety).

atheist wrote:

<quoted text>Like we've said, bad people do bad things. It takes religion for good people to do bad things. Yes, atheists have killed people--but the total number of people killed by atheists dwindles to an insignificant amount when compared to how many have been slaughtered for no reason other than in the name of 'god'(or allah or any other monotheistic diety).

It takes religion for good people to do bad things? Where did that come from? That made no sense whatsoever. It takes a angry person, a person with a vendetta, or just a whacked out loon. Religion has nothing to do with it. That's absurd.

supdude wrote:

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It takes religion for good people to do bad things? Where did that come from? That made no sense whatsoever. It takes a angry person, a person with a vendetta, or just a whacked out loon. Religion has nothing to do with it. That's absurd.

Ever hear of the crusades? Jim Jones? David Koresh? The Balkan Wars? Maybe all whacked out loons, but all killed under the guise of religion. Any war fought in the Middle East not started by us? More people have been killed in the name of religion than any other single cause.

waist of time wrote:

<quoted text>No YOU are the WASTE of time. I'm Waist of time. You have major issues with reading into things and you don't know me so don't assume my intentions. You want physical proof then you need to physically go to Jerusalem and ask the people there. Oh but you have to go there 2012 years ago. There is no physical proof that will satisfy you because you have your mind made. I read earlier y'all want to go to Hell because of the people that are supposed to be there. The people you speak of will be in Hell with you so have fun y'all.
Lmao I am not afraid that there is no life after death. If not then what have I lost by leading a good life.
I'm staying off of here because you all make me extremely sad that there are such blinded people out there. I hope something brings you to your knees and you lean otherwise before its too late.

Read what you posted then tell me who is assuming intentions. I simply asked how you knew the things you claim to know, and from what I can tell that pissed you off. I haven't found a Christian yet who doesn't get offended and threaten eternal torment when you don't agree with them. Thanks for the conversation I guess!

crazy people wrote:

<quoted text>Ever hear of the crusades? Jim Jones? David Koresh? The Balkan Wars? Maybe all whacked out loons, but all killed under the guise of religion. Any war fought in the Middle East not started by us? More people have been killed in the name of religion than any other single cause.

We are just talking in circles. I'm sorry every guy who I debated with. I'm tired of this, this is getting boring. But I will leave you with one last thing. I hope to God that you get to know him. I will continue to pray for you guys. But I will once again promise you that one day you will bow and confess that Jesus is Lord. I can promise u that. Take it to the bank. And after u do that and you hear Jesus say, "Depart from me, I never knew you." Your in deep.....(Your going to Hell) plain and simple. Don't waste your time replying. I'm not going to answer because I can't speak in circles with simple minded people. My faith is way too complicated for you simpletons to understand.