Neighbors object to "Bible Park USA" development

My Science wrote:

They should spend that 180 million on a science museum.

AMEN!

You missed the point. Theses residents do not want a park, a museum, or any large attraction reguardless of the them.

180 million is a lot of money to cheapen my religion. I don't like the fact that they are using the Bible to base their amusement park on. I also would not want an amusement park in my back yard. I am 45 minutes from Dollywood currently. Not because of distance, but because of all of the traffic it has created.

This will never happen because people hate the bible and hate christians. It is a shame but there you have it.

What exactly is a Bible-story theme park? Are they going to have a woman in a booth pretending to be Bethsheba taking a bath?

What ever happened to ministering to the poor and indigent? Missions overseas and here at home?

they should think about the sevierville tn area.

Lena wrote:

This will never happen because people hate the bible and hate christians. It is a shame but there you have it.

I think it has more to do with the fact that they don't want a theme park in their back yard. As the article states.

Also, what "people" are you referring to? Wouldn't it be difficult for the majority to hate themselves?

Lena wrote:

This will never happen because people hate the bible and hate christians. It is a shame but there you have it.

I agree with you christians have had all their rights taken away.For the people that want an example all give just a few. One of my friends was fired from sonic for telling a customer "merry christmas." And because the customer didn't beleive in christmas they had him fired. The 10 comandments have been taken out of schools along with prayer. If you or your kids don't like the 10 comandments or prayer in school then don't look at them and when kids pray go out in the hall. Don't mess up our beliefs just to make one person happy. I beleive if you don't like christians then get out of america. If you read your history this country was founded by christians.

Dakhath wrote:

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I think it has more to do with the fact that they don't want a theme park in their back yard. As the article states.
Also, what "people" are you referring to? Wouldn't it be difficult for the majority to hate themselves?

Umm. I think the majority of people are not Christians. I know it may be hard to believe in the bible belt, but most people are on the wide path, death. And few people are on the narrow path, life. I know, after I moved to Florida, it was a real wake up.

I live 2 miles from this area, and I have to say you are missing the point - religion is not the issue, but quality of life IS. This is a mostly rural area with working farms surrounding it and small residential areas and we do not need this kind of massive development in the area, which is know as the Blackman Community and was founded in 1808. This New York developer can go somewhere else, WE DO NOT WANT his scheme in our community. Of course the local county (this is a county government and outside of the Murfreesboro city limit) are going to go gaga over the promise of economic riches, but they just don't seem to know when to quit and draw the line. Developers are always promising rich rewards but ALL they care about is lining their own pockets. I hope this becomes a state-wide issue, because this kind of thing is coming to a neighborhood near YOU.

By the way, I DO NOT live in "Madison, TN" but in the Blackman Community in Murfreesboro, TN!

Cecil, I applaud your post and am very glad that you put it so bluntly and plainly. Having lived in and around M'boro for the past 7 years, I am aware of the extreme development going on and you are right on the mark. It seems to be all about money and how many dwellings can be crammed onto a small amount of land....You and your neighbors should feel no compulsion to cave into any demands, regardless if it is a Christian endeavor, a big theme park in the Blackman community? No way. Where do I sign up to register my dissent?

I can't wait for the Daniel and the lion's den exhibit!!!

tim wrote:

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I agree with you christians have had all their rights taken away.For the people that want an example all give just a few. One of my friends was fired from sonic for telling a customer "merry christmas." And because the customer didn't beleive in christmas they had him fired. The 10 comandments have been taken out of schools along with prayer. If you or your kids don't like the 10 comandments or prayer in school then don't look at them and when kids pray go out in the hall. Don't mess up our beliefs just to make one person happy. I beleive if you don't like christians then get out of america. If you read your history this country was founded by christians.

My god you are annoying. Did you make it out of the 8th grade? Try spell check and also try researching the "founding" of North America. Jamestown was started as a colony to the British Empire-not a religious commune. Fast forward 150+ years and you will find that the 13 colonies were rather pi$$ed off at King George for quite a few reasons...religion not being one of them. The Declaration of Independence was not signed so that you can spew forth your redneck wisdom about Christianity.

Magic Jesus wrote:

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My god you are annoying. Did you make it out of the 8th grade? Try spell check and also try researching the "founding" of North America. Jamestown was started as a colony to the British Empire-not a religious commune. Fast forward 150+ years and you will find that the 13 colonies were rather pi$$ed off at King George for quite a few reasons...religion not being one of them. The Declaration of Independence was not signed so that you can spew forth your redneck wisdom about Christianity.

Wrong. Go back to school.

As you walk up the steps to the building which houses the U.S Supreme Court you can see near the top of the building a row of the world's law givers and each one is facing one in the middle who is facing forward with a full frontal view .. it is Moses and he is holding the Ten Commandments!

As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.

As you sit inside the courtroom, you can see the wall,
right above where the Supreme Court judges sit,
a display of the Ten Commandments!

There are Bible verses etched in stone all over the Federal Buildings and Monuments in Washington , D.C.

James Madison, the fourth president, known as 'The Father of Our Constitution' made the following statement:

'We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.'

Patrick Henry, that patriot and Founding Father of our country said:

'It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ'.

Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher, whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.

Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members of the established orthodox churches in the colonies.

Thomas Jefferson worried that the Courts would overstep their authority and instead of interpreting the law would begin making law . an oligarchy
the rule of few over many.

The very first Supreme Court Justice, John Jay, said:

'Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers.'

How, then, have we gotten to the point that everything we have done for 220 years in this country is now suddenly wrong and unconstitutional?

Chris Clearwater wrote:

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Wrong. Go back to school.
As you walk up the steps to the building which houses the U.S Supreme Court you can see near the top of the building a row of the world's law givers and each one is facing one in the middle who is facing forward with a full frontal view .. it is Moses and he is holding the Ten Commandments!
As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.
As you sit inside the courtroom, you can see the wall,
right above where the Supreme Court judges sit,
a display of the Ten Commandments!
There are Bible verses etched in stone all over the Federal Buildings and Monuments in Washington , D.C.
James Madison, the fourth president, known as 'The Father of Our Constitution' made the following statement:
'We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.'
Patrick Henry, that patriot and Founding Father of our country said:
'It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ'.
Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher, whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.
Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members of the established orthodox churches in the colonies.
Thomas Jefferson worried that the Courts would overstep their authority and instead of interpreting the law would begin making law . an oligarchy
the rule of few over many.
The very first Supreme Court Justice, John Jay, said:
'Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers.'
How, then, have we gotten to the point that everything we have done for 220 years in this country is now suddenly wrong and unconstitutional?

Wow. Never mind that fact that the word "God" isn't found in the Constitution - you know, that document that founded our current government?

Moving on, there is no verifiable evidence that James Madison ever said that - in fact, there's reason to believe that the quote is entirely fabricated. That quote was publicized by David Barton, who did not himself use primary sources. Or even secondary sources, from the way things sound. The same is true of the Patrick Henry quote. Neither have a credible source (unless you consider David Barton to be credible).

Whether Henry said it or not, it /is/ consistent with his views, I'll give you that much. However, many other founders had conflicting views - a situation that accurately reflects the public today.

Regardless of what John Jay says, the Constitution has no religious requirement for election to any office, and for good reason. Ironically enough, you established Jefferson's disdain for the Supreme Court just before you used a quote from a Supreme Court Justice.

I believe I have run out of space; more will follow.

I meant to include this in the last paragraph of my previous message. I didn't, however, so I'll just put it here. Article VI of the U.S. Constitution states:

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the members of the several state legislatures, and all executive and judicial officers, both of the United States and of the several states, shall be bound by oath or affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."

Your description of the Supreme Court building is flawed. Have you ever seen a photo of what you are talking about? Try the Supreme Court site. The historical figures depicted in that image are not all facing the center.

The door itself has a depiction of two tablets and the roman numerals I through X. There is no text displayed.

Besides, the architectural features of a building have little or no bearing on or government - which is probably a best, considering Moses is hardly the only religious figure depicted in or on the building. Muhammad can also be found easily enough.

And then there are the purely secular figures, such as Napoleon or Charlemagne - neither of which are worshipped by anyone, as far as I know.

The Bible verses are questionable, but probably Constitutional - however, as they are merely architectural and/or design features (much like the Supreme Court building) they really don't lend much weight to your position.

And finally, don't quote something you heard in an email you got forwarded to you without verifying the facts first!

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/capit...

I spent all that time looking up my own sources only to realize where I'd seen all of this before. I suggest you check the link if you're curious to see a more thorough (and far less biased) explanation of all of that.

What's sad is that they really /should/ teach this sort of thing in school.

Please do excuse the potential double post - topix can be difficult to get along with at times.

Chris Clearwater wrote:

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Wrong. Go back to school.
As you walk up the steps to the building which houses the U.S Supreme Court you can see near the top of the building a row of the world's law givers and each one is facing one in the middle who is facing forward with a full frontal view .. it is Moses and he is holding the Ten Commandments!
As you enter the Supreme Court courtroom, the two huge oak doors have the Ten Commandments engraved on each lower portion of each door.
As you sit inside the courtroom, you can see the wall,
right above where the Supreme Court judges sit,
a display of the Ten Commandments!
There are Bible verses etched in stone all over the Federal Buildings and Monuments in Washington , D.C.
James Madison, the fourth president, known as 'The Father of Our Constitution' made the following statement:
'We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.'
Patrick Henry, that patriot and Founding Father of our country said:
'It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religions but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ'.
Every session of Congress begins with a prayer by a paid preacher, whose salary has been paid by the taxpayer since 1777.
Fifty-two of the 55 founders of the Constitution were members of the established orthodox churches in the colonies.
Thomas Jefferson worried that the Courts would overstep their authority and instead of interpreting the law would begin making law . an oligarchy
the rule of few over many.
The very first Supreme Court Justice, John Jay, said:
'Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers.'
How, then, have we gotten to the point that everything we have done for 220 years in this country is now suddenly wrong and unconstitutional?

I'm glad you justify your argument with false quotations and bible verses etched in stone. Jefferson was an agnostic/Deist at best nor was Madison the "father" of the constitution. Once again this country was not "founded" on Christianity. Go back to community college and work on that associate degree Mr. Clearwater. Also, quit throwing out "father of the constitution" quotes. There is no "father" of the constitution/declaration of independence. The United States broke away from the British Empire because they didn't want to be Britain's little bitch anymore-not because they wanted to found a country steeped in Christianity.

tim wrote:

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...The 10 commandments have been taken out of schools along with prayer. If you or your kids don't like the 10 comandments or prayer in school then don't look at them and when kids pray go out in the hall.

Hey, the hall is right there... go outside while I pray my own way... oh wait, you're not about to do that when it's you, are ya Tim?