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“dening those who deny nature. ” Since: Jun 07
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1 Yes, and so are the 80286/386/486. I know the navy use to use the 80486 on the programming module and the 6502 in the command and control module. |
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2 Regardless, the Y2K bug was in the legacy software NOT in the processor. Two char fields. And a lot of the code no longer had source to modify. Y2K was a real problem. And the fact that we 'fixed' it before it struck and it was not a 'trillion dollar fiasco' as the doomsayers claimed shows that we CAN do 'preventative changes' for other problems such as AGW for a lot less than the hysterical 'back to the caves' rhetoric would suggest. |
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“dening those who deny nature. ” Since: Jun 07
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4 And the legacy software was sitting in a drawer gathering dust and was not installed. Also have you ever heard of a decompiler. Y2K was not a real problem. It was something hyped in the media, a fake problem that involved fake fixes. If nothing had been done then life would of continued on and no one would of noticed anything different. Even the operating systems involved had been upgraded to handle that problem. Likewise AGW is a fake problem that people like you want to fix. Something that turns out to be natural which means your fixes will not fix anything. In that way it would be worth it just to see people like you scraching your head like a flea ridden monkey trying to figure out why it isn't working before you make the claim that we need even greater change. |
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2 Bullshite. "We fixed it," Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty? What part did you play in saving the world from the Y2K catastrophe that wasn't? It's people like you shouting FIRE in a crowded building that causes panic where panic isn't necessary. Form an orderly line and leave the building calmly and quietly. |
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2 - That just doesn’t ring true to me. Was there not anyone, anywhere who either failed to properly prepare, or maybe happened to overlook some aspect of how Y2K might affect their systems? Did every small business and third world country catch every bug? Did anything go wrong as a result of Y2K? Did anyone ever test a system in advance of Y2K and find that had they not tested, something catastrophic would have happened? http://www.freakonomics.com/2006/02/20/was-th... |
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2 Opinion: Did Richard Clarke and all those Y2K remediation efforts avert a disaster? No. Let's keep this experience in mind as we evaluate expert advice. http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Some-Perspe... - Meanwhile, people carrying out useless tasks, like Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty, need to justify their pathetic existence. |
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2 Like the steps taken to avert a economic depression taken by the POTUS; after the fact it is hard to prove that they were necessary. Disasters averted are not as significant as disasters actualized. The YK bug was real as was the PS3 leap year bug. |
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1 An. |
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“dening those who deny nature. ” Since: Jun 07
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2 Never even heard of the PS3 leap year bug but saying that the Y2K bug and the steps taken by POTUS averted an ecomic disaster is an accurate statement. Nothing Obama did averted the disaters and the Y2K was 99.9% fiction. The fact that nothing happened is not the result of some action taken rather that there was nothing that needed to be acted on. That the problem had been with computers that were operational in the 60's and 70's and by the ninties had been replaced with far newer computers and software. By the eighties they had replaced nearly every computer that was operating in the sixties and could of replaced them with PC's. By the 90's the PC's were twice as powerful as any of those old main frames, easier to operate and used far less power and took up far less room. By the year 2000 there were desktops capable of doing multiple operations and running multiple programs at the same time. There were even PC's that had multiple processors. The fact is that those computers that would of been affected had been retired and replaced with a server doing the same work of several of those mainframes. And it was those mainframes that were going to be the problem |
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2 Look up the Play Station 3 leap year bug. Thank you for agreeing that the President averted an economic disaster. However, the Y2K bug existed. |
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3 I can testify to that. I was in mainframe system programming at the time and the COBOL programmers were really busy changing code to handle four bytes for the year field. ALL of the COBOL code had two byte date field. One of the 'side effect' of the Y2K problem was a sudden interest in PC and networking. Where there was 'off the shelf' software, there was also a major change to buy new packages and upgrades that were Y2K compliant. Tina is not fooling anybody. She was NEVER a programmer at any level. It shows very clearly. She didn't even understand that the Y2K problem was with CODE!! |
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“dening those who deny nature. ” Since: Jun 07
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1 Who said I agreed and the Y2K bug only existed in the same place as tinkerbell and the tooth fairy. |
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“dening those who deny nature. ” Since: Jun 07
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2 Are you saying that they could not call up the date from the system and that they wrote all the code. They should of tried the date function. They only added it in 1985. They also added it to Fortran, and RPG at the same time. Even basic had it. I learned about all that at when I was taking a few classes at a local university where I took classes on before I decided the chance of finding a job in that economy was poor and went into the navy. It also had time function. These are things you should of known as a programmer. Even if your programs were on punch cards. http://www.mainframegurukul.com/tutorials/pro... |
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2 Doing something versus doing nothing regarding the climate change scare: EU spent tens of billions of dollars to combat climate change and increased their emissions by 2.4%. Result....billions of dollars wasted on a non problem, temperatures are level, seas are not rising at any kind of alarming rate, and multi-year sea ice is increasing. By doing nothing, the tens of billions of dollars could have been used to avert the impending economic disaster in the EU, which is a real problem. http://notrickszone.com/2012/05/31/despite-te... |
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2 Expert testimony from the guy who wrote:
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin... Priceless! |
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2 Something else surprising about the current situation, much of Europe is in recession, with high unemployment, another reason why emissions should be decreasing. So, the question remains, why are they rising? |
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2 Courtesy of massive cash losses on the US housing and financial scams. I would advise them not to be fooled twice as the US has shown itself to be on the SAME track again. And always suspect an 'economic analysis' by Dirtling. He ignores the main problem which is shutting down of a lot of nuclear power which has increased reliance on fossil fuels. Of course, fossil fuels account for 80% to 90% of EU power generation so of course the emissions are rising as the amount of fossil fuel used to replace the nuclear power goes up in the short term. Bring back nuclear power (but safe reactors such as CANDU, Thorium salt, pebble bed, etc. |
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“dening those who deny nature. ” Since: Jun 07
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2 I see nothing wrong with safe nuclear power as well and yet that isnt the real issue that Earthling was addressing. With the price of fossil fuels rising and unemployment high there should of been less production of CO2 and methane. Yet it did not decrease, why did it not decrease if man is the reason for the increase. |
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1 Indeed. But that was a side issue, not the meat. Try reading it again. Earthing didn't 'address' anything. He implied, spun, wiggled and really said nothing. The point *I* made was that even though there was a small slowdown in the economy, more fossil fuels were used because of the major decrease in nuclear power generation. Pulling claims out of your posterior just sets up 'strawmen'. It increased because the MIX of fuels went towards fossil fuels with the shutdown of so many nuclear plants. And no. Coal still competes on *price* with nuclear, so there is little difference in the economics. Only emissions are affected in the short term. And it takes time to shift to alternatives while you can drop major generating capacity in a few days with a 'political commitment'. |
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