Michael Jackson - The Trial of Michael Jackson (Part 3)

"What Wacko "believes" makes him, at fifty, mentally ill. Mentally ill AND sexually retarded to boot. And then you have to throw into the mix that he prefers boys and not girls and you have yourself one big, ol', plastic, pervin', chicken hawk."

Why'd you just describe yourself? Self hatred is dangerous.

UnbiasedPlease wrote:

"What Wacko "believes" makes him, at fifty, mentally ill. Mentally ill AND sexually retarded to boot. And then you have to throw into the mix that he prefers boys and not girls and you have yourself one big, ol', plastic, pervin', chicken hawk."
Why'd you just describe yourself? Self hatred is dangerous.

Why do f'loons love these IKWYABWAI posts? We are wearing this one down.

UnbiasedPlease wrote:

Next time provide a rough estimate of when it is on the video.
So he is "jiggling" huh? And >sitting< on his lap? No, f'loon lover. You are incorrect. See 3:30. See 4:36 as well.
That is an incorrect observation based on your wishful thinking. An opinion, not a fact.
You have recently said that I was linking to sites that only state "personal opinions" but in your own ignorance you have forgotten that it is the exact thing you are doing yourself.
And this is your proof that has made you believe that Michael Jackson is a pedophile...? What part of the world are you from? Paranoiasia?
Either I'm completely prejudgmental or I could be simply right, but you seem to be twisted in your mind. I have seen countless of adults having children sitting like that around them. It is normal behavior

Maybe where you are from it is OK for 40 year old men with a history of boy toys, have a collection of books with pictures of naked boys, built a honeytrap in Los Olivos and have had lack of real relationships with women to jiggle 13 year olds on their laps, but here in the real world it is a sure sign of less than healthy interest in children. But hey, if you want to condone that sort of behaviour we'll have to assume that you don't see anything wrong with it and maybe even engage in that sort of behaviour yourself.

UnbiasedPlease wrote:

and what you would not acknowledge is that pedophiles are per definition completely normal people - social wise.

And that definition comes from... where?

And who does this sound like?

http://crime.about.com/od/sex/p/pedophile.htm

UnbiasedPlease wrote:

The opposite of Michael Jackson that seems to believe he is somewhat a child himself because he never had his childhood.

So why is Wacko denying his own children a childhood by not allowing them to mix with other children, masking them in public, moving them from place to place so their life is not stable, refusing them access to their mothers, etc etc?

"have a collection of books with pictures of naked boy"
That was a rumor. If that really was true, he would've been arrested. From what year would that be? 1993 or 2005?

"So why is Wacko denying his own children a childhood by not allowing them to mix with other children,"
We will never know if he does.

"masking them in public"
They are unmasked, but according to their mother (Debbie Rowe) it was her idea. In a recent interview she also said that she was upset to see the children unmasked.

"moving them from place to place so their life is not stable,"
You could be right about that one, since he did travel to Bahrain with his children.

"refusing them access to their mothers"
According to Debbie Rowe herself, she sees them from time to time. Blankets mother is another thing...

Regarding the pedophile profile:
There are some characteristics where you could compare with Michael Jackson. However, as it states on that site:
"but these are merely indicators and it should not be assumed that individuals with these characteristics are pedophiles. But knowledge of these characteristics coupled with questionable behavior can be used as an alert that someone may be a pedophile."

Those pedophiles I've seen (shown on the media), haven't matched the "child-like activities". Usually they have been very intelligent social-wise.

Michael Jackson is not intelligent social-wise. He is not afraid of showing his love to children. Not even after the charges. A pedophile would be, since he would know the consequences. Michael is however, very naive.

According to Wikipedia (Not the most reliable source, but it does link to other sources):
"As part of the evidence to show attraction to boys, the prosecution introduced two books featuring nude prepubescent boys. The books were seized from Jackson in 1993 and never returned [11]. The prosecution portrayed them as being child erotica or pornography, showing a sexual attraction to boys. However, the defense characterized them as wholly non-sexual, non-pornographic, art books. The defense pointed out that the books were legal to possess, and Jackson was therefore never charged with owning them. While both featured nudity, neither book contains any depictions of sexual acts. Jackson lost possession of the books long before meeting the current accuser, which is why the books were a part of the 1108 evidence. He has never been accused of showing these two books to any boys.
One book, "The Boy: A photographic Essay" features many pictures of nude boys, including some explicit pictures of genitalia. The pictures were of boys who took part in the 1963 film adaptation of the book Lord of the Flies. One book had an inscription saying it was from a fan. While the other book read this inscription : "Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys' faces. This is the spirit of boyhood, a life I never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_trial_of_Mi...

Who said f'loonscuses were dead?

"Michael Borack, a forensic psychiatrist at the University Of Cincinnati Medical School, has evaluated many pedophiles, and says Jackson does not fit the usual profile. Borack told ABC News, "(His eccentric behavior) is not typical of most offenders. Most offenders are 'normal' people who could be your neighbors, not freaky or weird."

Richard Lawlord, a child psychiatrist at the Indiana School Of Medicine, said Jackson may be suffering from some form of arrested development that causes him to focus his attention on young children over other adults. Lawlord said, "They become 'fixated' during development. We don't know why." However. Lawlord says Jackson's childlike behavior would be rare among pedophiles. He said, "I don't think that kind of behavior is very common.

Pedophilia has been linked to a kind of Peter Pan syndrome, in which adults use children to hang onto their youth. However, John Hopkins University psychiatrist Dr. Fred Berlin said that explanation is too hasty. He said, "That's getting into a theory of cause, which I think is difficult." Berlin added there is no, quote, "typical" pedophile. He said, "That's like saying,'What is the typical heterosexual?'""

http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/12060529

Yet here's f'loonscusers own c&ped words coming back.

".....But knowledge of these characteristics coupled with questionable behavior can be used as an alert that someone may be a pedophile."

S/Michael Jackson/someone.

keep f'looning.

That is all you got to say? Attempting to insult people with clichés?

UnbiasedPlease wrote:

"... He is not afraid of showing his love to children. Not even after the charges. A pedophile would be, since he would know the consequences. Michael is however, very naive.

Narcissistic trait is all that is.
Jack0 thinks he's god and you f'loons oblige him with multiple mewls.

Sorry, Jack0 cannot thumb his deteriorating nose to the law of the land. Otherwise he'd now be touring, singing, performing, under contract...etc.
All the things successful entertainers normally do.
Hint: Jack0 isn't successful nowadays.

Don't remember a single statement where he states: "I am god" - That is more of a rappers thing, I believe.=D

"Hint: Jack0 isn't successful nowadays."
Thriller 25 wasn't bad. But then again, it's just a little collaboration work with the old songs in new quality included.

One tv camare caught Michael Jackson, about 1 hour
after the verdict, raising both fists and saying "I am God". He was only pretending to be the poor black boy that the judge and sheriff was picking on him. Michael Jackson is filled with hate. Rappers make up their hate songs with people like Michael Jackson in their minds.

UnbiasedPlease wrote:

Don't remember a single statement where he states: "I am god" - That is more of a rappers thing, I believe.=D

F'loonsign #84:
"If Mikey didn't say it, it's not true"

F'loonsign #43:
Changing the meaning of words of others using post-edit statements.

Didn't say he said it, but if you insist he didn't say it then that means he didn't say lots of things like:

MJ - "FsCking fans"

lol

UnbiasedPlease wrote:

"Hint: Jack0 isn't successful nowadays."
Thriller 25 wasn't bad. But then again, it's just a little collaboration work with the old songs in new quality included.

No problems...Jack0 will use that newly found success to get his property back from under the threat of a foreclosure. Colony will make him jag in Vegas for his room & board and all will be swell with the world.

Some days, even pigs fly.
<snicker>

"One tv camare caught Michael Jackson, about 1 hour
after the verdict, raising both fists and saying "I am God"."
You know if this video would be somewhere at youtube maybe?

God knows, if it's not on YouTube, it's not real. Right, f'loon?

UnbiasdPlease wrote:

"Michael Borack, a forensic psychiatrist at the University Of Cincinnati Medical School, has evaluated many pedophiles, and says Jackson does not fit the usual profile.

I guess that explains why the Cincinnati Medical School is on par with the Haiti Surgeon College.

Pedophile profile:

a.. He carries on what can be termed "a special relationship" with a wife. Often pedophiles have failed marriages due to their sexual interests but remain in the marriage to mask their true intentions. Sadly, the wife sometimes knows about her husband's preference, but prefers to keep quiet to avoid social stigma and disgrace.

b.. He displays a fascination or unusual interest in children. If an adult has an inordinate amount of interest in pre-pubescent children, it doesn't confirm he is a pedophile, but it should at least arouse suspicion.

c.. He makes frequent references to children in exalted or exaggerated terms such as "pure," "innocent," "God sent," "blissful" and other descriptive labels that seem inappropriate and excessive. Remember that a pedophile
cannot help the way he behaves and therefore will inadvertently reveal aspects about himself during speech.

d.. He has hobbies or interests that commonly belong in the realm of a child's world such as toy collecting, building models of cars or planes. His home or room is decorated in a child's theme. And often, that theme will reflect the age bracket of his preferred victim.

e.. He is over 30 years of age, single and has few or no friends his own age. He may also have frequent and unexplained changes of residence. He may be unable or unwilling to discuss why he lost his last job. He may have military discharge that he cannot explain and a past that he can not easily talk about.

f.. He has systematic and prolonged access to children. Pedophiles, because of the wide age disparity between themselves and their victims, cannot just hang around children. The pedophile has to find a way to legitimize his contact with kids. He usually accomplishes this by obtaining employment in a
field where he is forced to deal with children on a daily basis. Jobs like schoolteachers, bus drivers, camp counselors, photographers and sports coaching serve their needs perfectly. They will always volunteer for activities in which they are left alone with children with no parental supervision.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psy...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/michaeljackson/0...

"God knows, if it's not on YouTube, it's not real. Right, f'loon?"
It seems that your f'loon brain is making up claims. Deja vu x2.

Why did I even say brain..? It's nonexistent.

UnbiasdPlease wrote:

"Michael Borack, a forensic psychiatrist at the University Of Cincinnati Medical School, has evaluated many pedophiles, and says Jackson does not fit the usual profile. Borack told ABC News, "(His eccentric behavior) is not typical of most offenders. Most offenders are 'normal' people who could be your neighbors, not freaky or weird..."

...or rich.

MJ wasn't worried about fitting in next door - he made his own isolated playpen and he had no worries making a living.

It's now different. Depleted funds have reduced Jack0 to a runaround beggart looking for the entertainment industry's support. Jack0 can no longer buy off silence like he once did.

(the trainwreck Jackson became continues to evolve)