Trail Dust: Vicious fighting marked Taos revolt

Great article as usual.

Absolutely fascinating! Thank you again Marc Simmons!

Fascinating indeed. The current hubbub regarding Gitmo, Abu Gharaib, and the American penchant for torture seems to indicate not too much has changed.

Another good article for us history "nuts" Thanks again Mr Simmons

Cesar Roma wrote:

Fascinating indeed. The current hubbub regarding Gitmo, Abu Gharaib, and the American penchant for torture seems to indicate not too much has changed.

As the article points out, the Indians and Mexicans tortured Bent's party previous to the Army's arrival in Taos. So, Mr. Roma, perhaps the penchant for torture is universal, and not limited to Americans.

Cowboy wrote:

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As the article points out, the Indians and Mexicans tortured Bent's party previous to the Army's arrival in Taos. So, Mr. Roma, perhaps the penchant for torture is universal, and not limited to Americans.

Humans, cat, sealions and some other species seem to enjoy torture. But humans torturers seem to prefer torturing other humans...Les

Well done ... a great piece of history revisited.

Cowboy wrote:

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As the article points out, the Indians and Mexicans tortured Bent's party previous to the Army's arrival in Taos. So, Mr. Roma, perhaps the penchant for torture is universal, and not limited to Americans.

well by god at least they didn't eat them. or did they?

Indians have been torturing their enemies long before Columbus arrived. For that matter, they also frequently ate them - a way to acquire their power. What this has to do with current events escapes me. Indians were not after information.

Bill Manns wrote:

Well done ... a great piece of history revisited.

history revised for political correctness.in a few years we will not know the truth about anything. we will have obama speak where every word has two meanings.

cactus jim wrote:

<quoted text>history revised for political correctness.in a few years we will not know the truth about anything. we will have obama speak where every word has two meanings.

burr in your butt that is affecting your thinking?

What a crock.

Got a wrote:

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burr in your butt that is affecting your thinking?
What a crock.

can you reach your laptop from your crock in s.f.?

The Pueblos were under Mexican rule until 1845. The Spanish came in first back in the 1600's and then Mexico took over. The Americans barged in around 1844-45.

Thank God, we were bloodthirsty and savages. Make me glad we cut the throats of the calvary and stole their women. Thank God we were heathens.

"Can't we all jus' get along?"

eegreejus wrote:

"Can't we all jus' get along?"

No...

The Spanirds had already taken all the gold from south america. The good spanirds wanted land for the queen and souls for the church.And the mexicans thought that all of the americas were theirs.The indians paid the price so now we go gamble. a-haa

Out for blood wrote:

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Try!

Great description of events leading up to and detailing the aftermath of these event can be found in the book "Tom Tobin, Frontiersman" by James E. Perkins. It's a terrific historical biographical account of the historic hise and fall of a frontier in the mountains and valleys of the Rocky Mountains as seen through the eyes of Tom Tobin who, among others, epitomized the self-reliant frontiersman of the 19th century... Check it out, and enjoy...