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Rosie
Santa Cruz, CA
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Cruzer wrote: Like many others, my first reaction to this crime is outrage and a temptation to call for a crack down on drug related crimes. But, another moment's reflection reminds me that this approach has been tried, again and again, here and in other places around the world to no avail. That is, unless you are willing to go the whole hog and impose (and carry out) draconian punishments such as the death penalty for such crimes. Then, I guess, you might minimize these crimes, but at a great cost to personal liberty for all of us. Given this, I once again conclude that the best approach is to legalize/de-criminalize these drugs. Tax the drugs, and use the profits for treatment centers. It wouldn't be perfect, but I think, on balance, we would have less crime, and less capital outlay with this approach than the current one. Seems that our personal liberties are already at a loss when people are wondering if going downtown, or to do the laundry, is "safe"! Sure, legalize/de-criminalize would obviously eliminate the "crime" or buying & doing drugs, but some people are just criminal. I'd bet even if this guy's drug of choice was legal, he'd still be hunting with his stun gun to afford his fix. In comparision, has legalizing alcohol helped this addiction problem? Has the money collected from DUI's rehab all the alcoholics?
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sonutzo
Santa Cruz, CA
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When I heard stun guns could be obtained by the public I knew this was coming!!
The perfect weapon for a robber...little chance of accidently killing someone..
Not good! We are going to see more of this..
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seriously
Morgan Hill, CA
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TomT wrote: What a loser! Kudos to the PD for getting the ****. off the street! Now, let's hope the court has the balls to keep him off.. Prop 36 He will be out in 2 weeks
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Friickin A Right
San Francisco, CA
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PROUD wrote: SCPD ROCKS! That Officer and those involved win my vote, more Cops=Safer town! Retribution street level works, now get a Judge to punish correctly is another story. Easy punishment for repeat offenders = NOT a safe town! I would rather have a bigger jail/prison than the Tannery Arts Center, Homeless Shelter and all the attached supporting nonsense. Dude, if you don't understand socialism or reformism why comment on it?
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Since: May 08
santa cruz
ISP:
Santa Cruz, CA
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wow, I was at that same spot doing my laundry and using my laptop and left 30 minutes before this happened. scary.
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Santa Cruzin
Santa Cruz, CA
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The natives should of "closed the borders" hundreds of years ago to avoid this. It's never too late. Let's send all white people back to where their ancestors came from. After all, just because their families have been here for generations doesn't mean they have a right to be here! That will solve all the crime and the United States can go back to being perfect.
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math addict
Watsonville, CA
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yeah that 'Math" is hard to kick. I heard the 4x4 step program works great! jimi doss wrote: Bad news !!! Do the time sonny then maybe you can seek out some treatment for this meth problem , But I for one am tired of reading about people using addiction as the reason they commit violent crimes ! As a recovering math addict with over five years clean I never once resorted to violence to keep my drug supply going . As a person who works in the field of addiction and alcohol treatment I appreciate your need for rehabilitation but ,,,, I personally feel when violence is used ,, long term incarceration should come first !
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Charles Bronsen
Santa Cruz, CA
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A liberal is only a liberal until they run out of some elses money
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“Oh well, been called worse ”
Since: Sep 09
Santa Cruz , La Selva Beach
ISP:
San Francisco, CA
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loweroceanlocal wrote: quick call ins, errr those darn colered people, er um get the hippies, uh those darn homeless people...send him back to mexico.........oh wait what is this?? a normal looking clean cut white boy did this??/ gosh golly ge wiz.... seriously folks here is more proof that crime comes from everywhere, im glad he was caught. __________ true that Eh ?? Thanks for psoting :):)
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“Oh well, been called worse ”
Since: Sep 09
Santa Cruz , La Selva Beach
ISP:
San Francisco, CA
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seriously wrote: <quoted text> Prop 36 He will be out in 2 weeks __________ In case nobody told ya , Prop 36 is out of money and funding :):)
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“where it all comes together”
Since: Apr 08
Santa Cruz, California
ISP:
Foster City, CA
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loweroceanlocal wrote: maybe if we quit sending the cops after things that annoy us, like panhandlers and smokers, we could have some real progress against the real criminals. Well duh.
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“where it all comes together”
Since: Apr 08
Santa Cruz, California
ISP:
Foster City, CA
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This town is so nouveau its pathetic.
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Excused
San Francisco, CA
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Well, as long as he had a good excuse for what he did. That's Santuary City attitude right? It even proves Coonerty's point about safety in Santa Cruz - the dude did use a non-lethal weapon, didn't he?
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“where it all comes together”
Since: Apr 08
Santa Cruz, California
ISP:
Foster City, CA
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seriously wrote: <quoted text> Prop 36
He will be out in 2 weeks While I despise prop 36 aka The Full Employment for Faith-Healers Act, that will not be the case. If you don't want to look like a complete fool you really should read the law before you comment upon it: http://www.drugreform.org/prop36/fulltext.tpl
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“Oh well, been called worse ”
Since: Sep 09
Santa Cruz , La Selva Beach
ISP:
San Francisco, CA
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math addict wrote: yeah that 'Math" is hard to kick. I heard the 4x4 step program works great! <quoted text> __________ Oh gosh another perfect person that never in their lives made a typo ,,, meth , math certainly your not so small ya cannt understand the validity of my comment ;0;0 Geez your inability to focus on topic is amazing :):) have a great day just the same :):)
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“Oh well, been called worse ”
Since: Sep 09
Santa Cruz , La Selva Beach
ISP:
San Francisco, CA
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Cruzer wrote: Like many others, my first reaction to this crime is outrage and a temptation to call for a crack down on drug related crimes. But, another moment's reflection reminds me that this approach has been tried, again and again, here and in other places around the world to no avail. That is, unless you are willing to go the whole hog and impose (and carry out) draconian punishments such as the death penalty for such crimes. Then, I guess, you might minimize these crimes, but at a great cost to personal liberty for all of us. Given this, I once again conclude that the best approach is to legalize/de-criminalize these drugs. Tax the drugs, and use the profits for treatment centers. It wouldn't be perfect, but I think, on balance, we would have less crime, and less capital outlay with this approach than the current one. __________ Oh my stars are you actually soliciting for the legalization of Methamphetamine ???? Thats insane !!!!!!! But of course everyone has the right to voice their opinion , I just am shocked at the idea you propose :):)
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Westsider
Ben Lomond, CA
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dooner wrote: <quoted text> What do you (and "Westsider") propose? You guys seem to think there is some easy solution, or one solution. Please, tell us all what you would do? 1) Neighbors have been complaining about the proliferation of grow houses and meth labs in residential areas for quite some time. It's virtually impossible to get police action on these despite increasing agitation from neighborhood groups. The police force needs an all-out effort to eradicate drug production within the city limits. 2) Unfortunately, the tolerant attitude to marijuana use (i.e., lowest priority crime) has carried over to meth and heroin abuse. Time to reverse course. The city council needs to make a proclamation immediately of zero tolerance for drug-related crimes and back it up with strict enforcement. We will not be central coast's drug warehouse for anyone who needs to get their fix. 3) More money to hire police officers dedicated to downtown foot patrols. 4) Zero tolerance for abusive behavior in the downtown area. 5) Strict enforcement of overnight parking laws. All those beat-up vans and rv's you see on the street? Yeah, they're dealing. It's a known problem and making martyrs out of these so-called homeless will never address the underlying problem. 6) Stricter regulation of who gets homeless services. Since we're paying for this out of local donations and tax money, then only bona-fide longstanding local residents should qualify for services. Just rolled in from bum-f*&% anywhere USA to crash for awhile, bum a few pennies and live off the system? Uh, try San Francisco, our welcome mat wore out a long time ago. Let's try these for a start. Anyone else?
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Duuude
Santa Cruz, CA
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So, where did the guy come from? He could be a local.
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“where it all comes together”
Since: Apr 08
Santa Cruz, California
ISP:
Foster City, CA
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Westsider wrote: our welcome mat wore out a long time ago. This town never had a welcome mat. It was vigilante-ville from the day it was born.
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“Oh well, been called worse ”
Since: Sep 09
Santa Cruz , La Selva Beach
ISP:
San Francisco, CA
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Westsider wrote: <quoted text> 1) Neighbors have been complaining about the proliferation of grow houses and meth labs in residential areas for quite some time. It's virtually impossible to get police action on these despite increasing agitation from neighborhood groups. The police force needs an all-out effort to eradicate drug production within the city limits. 2) Unfortunately, the tolerant attitude to marijuana use (i.e., lowest priority crime) has carried over to meth and heroin abuse. Time to reverse course. The city council needs to make a proclamation immediately of zero tolerance for drug-related crimes and back it up with strict enforcement. We will not be central coast's drug warehouse for anyone who needs to get their fix. 3) More money to hire police officers dedicated to downtown foot patrols. 4) Zero tolerance for abusive behavior in the downtown area. 5) Strict enforcement of overnight parking laws. All those beat-up vans and rv's you see on the street? Yeah, they're dealing. It's a known problem and making martyrs out of these so-called homeless will never address the underlying problem. 6) Stricter regulation of who gets homeless services. Since we're paying for this out of local donations and tax money, then only bona-fide longstanding local residents should qualify for services. Just rolled in from bum-f*&% anywhere USA to crash for awhile, bum a few pennies and live off the system? Uh, try San Francisco, our welcome mat wore out a long time ago. Let's try these for a start. Anyone else? __________ Well said Westsider ,,, I couldnt agree more . I for one am with you on every single point there !!! Thanks for posting that :):)
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