Former Santa Cruz Homeless Services Center director pleads no c...

Loisel's response continues:

Franklin: Also, what, if anything, has The Homeless Service Center done to replace the 100 beds lost when the Lee Loft was opened? Have they encouraged the Inner-Faith Satellite System to again house clients nightly at local churches?

Loisel: This program was replaced by the Paul Lee loft, which has 46 beds. The ISSP program was so expensive that it was not feasible to continue it. It was a bit heartbreaking to discontinue this program and I was working hard with Paul Lee to find funding and a more practical way to continue this service. In its heyday, the ISSP program was a model of the integration of the call to action on the part of the Church, the community, local government and HSC. What a wonderful model to have all the parts working together with the same goal of serving others.

Franklin: In Dr. Loisel's defense he talked about buying another building in the neighborhood to house another 100 clients and unlocked the gates and allowed clients to be around the center in the daytime. While it was obvious to me he had a 'dark past' he still seemed to have some humanistic ideas about his clients. He discussed pushing for the type of Homeless support event now set for March 30th at the Civic. He had developed a strong relationship with the local founder of the original local shelter and did outreach to UCSC and myself. In the end, however, he was pressured to not support ISSP or to have contact with me because of the same old leaders believing they knew what they were doing when it has been proven several time that they didn't.

Loisel: I was not pressured to discontinue ISSP. It was simply too expensive to continue. In addition, I did not feel that Franklin’s comments about the staff and leadership was beneficial. His past relationship with HSC was fraught with conflict. Although I think Franklin has some good points to make, his method of delivery creates a dynamic in which the content of the message is overwhelmed by the intensity of the delivery.

Loisel's response concludes:

Franklin: Where's the leadership at HSC? Leadership is important. Vision is important. But most important is understanding your mistakes and not repeating them. That is the most important thing is to consistently provide quality service to those most in need.
Let's peel back this onion and see what's in the middle of HSC. Mr. Rebele isn't the director but the money man who loan [sic] them money to finish the Family Shelter and then had his name placed on it and his wifes'[sic] picture showing how she helps the homeless on a huge banner outside of it [sic]. Seems pretty clear who's most important to him.

Loisel: Rowland Rebele is one of the greatest men I have ever met and Franklin ought to get his facts straight before he makes these types of comments. Rowland didn’t loan money, he gave money. He has put his soul into HSC and backed it with his money. Not only does he put up his own resources, he is active in committing his time and energy to every aspect of HSC. For everything that Rowland has done for HSC and Santa Cruz, there should be a statue in downtown in his honor. One more thing about Rowland, for a man of his considerable wealth and stature, he is one of the most well liked, kindest men I have met. He puts people at ease with his quick wit and warmth, always has a smile on his face, and will have a conversation with anyone.

Franklin: Is there a new director coming in or is it going to be Letita Schwartz? If so, why take this long a delay to elevate her?

Loisel: They have to do a background check – lol. Sometimes decisions are made when a group of individual comprising a board of directors determines it’s in the best interest of an organization, not according what our individual opinion is.

Franklin: There is s strong element of elitism at HSC, from top down. Leadership starts at the top and HSC shows it has more than a few problems there.

Loisel: Maybe Franklin could give a few examples, since I never experienced elitism at HSC.

The middle section of Loisel's response (which I entered, but didn't get printed) goes as follows:

Franklin: Also, what, if anything, has The Homeless Service Center done to replace the 100 beds lost when the Lee Loft was opened? Have they encouraged the Inner-Faith Satellite System to again house clients nightly at local churches?

Loisel: This program was replaced by the Paul Lee loft, which has 46 beds. The ISSP program was so expensive that it was not feasible to continue it. It was a bit heartbreaking to discontinue this program and I was working hard with Paul Lee to find funding and a more practical way to continue this service. In its heyday, the ISSP program was a model of the integration of the call to action on the part of the Church, the community, local government and HSC. What a wonderful model to have all the parts working together with the same goal of serving others.

Franklin: In Dr. Loisel's defense he talked about buying another building in the neighborhood to house another 100 clients and unlocked the gates and allowed clients to be around the center in the daytime. While it was obvious to me he had a 'dark past' he still seemed to have some humanistic ideas about his clients. He discussed pushing for the type of Homeless support event now set for March 30th at the Civic. He had developed a strong relationship with the local founder of the original local shelter and did outreach to UCSC and myself. In the end, however, he was pressured to not support ISSP or to have contact with me because of the same old leaders believing they knew what they were doing when it has been proven several time that they didn't.

Loisel: I was not pressured to discontinue ISSP. It was simply too expensive to continue. In addition, I did not feel that Franklin’s comments about the staff and leadership was beneficial. His past relationship with HSC was fraught with conflict. Although I think Franklin has some good points to make, his method of delivery creates a dynamic in which the content of the message is overwhelmed by the intensity of the delivery.

Robert, put your money(that you did nothing to earn or deserve) where your mouth is, or shut the f#*k up and go away.

We've got enough problems already, without YOU making matters worse.

Robert Norse wrote:

Franklin Williams,********* had some comments and criticisms of the Homeless Services Center, which he voiced in Comment #19 above.

Thanks Bob. So I take it you have no problem with everyone referring to Becky from now on as "Becky Johnson, part time substitute teacher in the Santa Cruz School System,........"? Since you find it necessary to post people's professions next to their name it would only make sense. Maybe people can add that little description when she defends baby rapists and murderers, or she's excusing the killing of small palestinian children.
Nice precedent, Bob.

Wayne wrote:

Thanks Bob. So I take it you have no problem with everyone referring to Becky from now on as "Becky Johnson, part time substitute teacher in the Santa Cruz School System,........"? Since you find it necessary to post people's professions next to their name it would only make sense. Maybe people can add that little description when she defends baby rapists and murderers, or she's excusing the killing of small palestinian children.
Nice precedent, Bob.

Of course Norse will call you a bigot if you use a pseudonym. Then when someone uses their real name he'll use it against you. And God forbid he should ever find out your phone number. Does anyone remember when he posted PSB's phone number on Indybay?

What is the difference? She is still a child. If i remember well, he has a teenage daughter. How would he feel if a man pursued her while drinking and using drugs( which is no excuse)

Becky Johnson wrote:

She was 16 years old, NOT 14!

Patricia B wrote:

What is the difference? She is still a child. If i remember well, he has a teenage daughter. How would he feel if a man pursued her while drinking and using drugs( which is no excuse)

But Becky doesn't think 16 year olds are children. She has said that kids stop being children at the age of 12. After that they are teenagers. She does this to support her claim that children don't smoke marijuana.

FLORIANA WRITES: "But Becky doesn't think 16 year olds are children. She has said that kids stop being children at the age of 12. After that they are teenagers. She does this to support her claim that children don't smoke marijuana."

BECKY: A 16-yr-old is a minor. Children finish their formative development at about age 12 and then transition into puberty and adulthood. Legally they are all minors until their 18th birthday. And children under age 12 RARELY smoke marijuana, even if available. We don't need to solve a problem we don't have.

Becky Johnson wrote:

FLORIANA WRITES: "But Becky doesn't think 16 year olds are children. She has said that kids stop being children at the age of 12. After that they are teenagers. She does this to support her claim that children don't smoke marijuana."
BECKY: A 16-yr-old is a minor. Children finish their formative development at about age 12 and then transition into puberty and adulthood. Legally they are all minors until their 18th birthday. And children under age 12 RARELY smoke marijuana, even if available. We don't need to solve a problem we don't have.

And this is a teacher in the City of Santa Cruz?!! FIRE HER!

Becky Johnson wrote:

FLORIANA WRITES: "But Becky doesn't think 16 year olds are children. She has said that kids stop being children at the age of 12. After that they are teenagers. She does this to support her claim that children don't smoke marijuana."
BECKY: A 16-yr-old is a minor. Children finish their formative development at about age 12 and then transition into puberty and adulthood. Legally they are all minors until their 18th birthday. And children under age 12 RARELY smoke marijuana, even if available. We don't need to solve a problem we don't have.

After working with junior highers for the last 7 years, I can assure you that your statement, "Children under the age of 12 RARELY smoke marijuana," is unfounded and baseless. It's naive to think that drug use, especially pot, among adolescence is not a problem.

Westide Dad wrote:

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And this is a teacher in the City of Santa Cruz?!! FIRE HER!

Becky is a substitute teacher in the county. There is a very clear reason as to why she cannot gain full-time permanent employment, as you can read in her posts on various Topix forums.

WESTSIDE DAD WRITES in comment # 73: "And this is a teacher in the City of Santa Cruz?!! FIRE HER!"

BECKY: Monitors!! WD is using this forum to launch a personal attack on me and my ability to earn a living in this community. Nothing I said in the previous comment rates his over-reaction. And his name "Westside Dad" implies that he is a loving, caring parent which may or may not be true, but it prejudicial for readers, who may also be parents with children in local schools.

I made a series of true statements.
I nowhere advocated that any crime be committed.
I nowhere advocated that any child be harmed.

Simply for holding a point of view different than that of WD and for expressing it, I am subjected in this forum to this kind of abuse. Please advise WD that he is violating the TOS for this forum.

Becky Johnson wrote:

WESTSIDE DAD WRITES in comment # 73: "And this is a teacher in the City of Santa Cruz?!! FIRE HER!"
BECKY: Monitors!! WD is using this forum to launch a personal attack on me and my ability to earn a living in this community. Nothing I said in the previous comment rates his over-reaction. And his name "Westside Dad" implies that he is a loving, caring parent which may or may not be true, but it prejudicial for readers, who may also be parents with children in local schools.
I made a series of true statements.
I nowhere advocated that any crime be committed.
I nowhere advocated that any child be harmed.
Simply for holding a point of view different than that of WD and for expressing it, I am subjected in this forum to this kind of abuse. Please advise WD that he is violating the TOS for this forum.

Get over yourself! He has a right to state his opinion.

Becky Johnson wrote:

WESTSIDE DAD WRITES in comment # 73: "And this is a teacher in the City of Santa Cruz?!! FIRE HER!"
BECKY: Monitors!! WD is using this forum to launch a personal attack on me and my ability to earn a living in this community. Nothing I said in the previous comment rates his over-reaction. And his name "Westside Dad" implies that he is a loving, caring parent which may or may not be true, but it prejudicial for readers, who may also be parents with children in local schools.
I made a series of true statements.
I nowhere advocated that any crime be committed.
I nowhere advocated that any child be harmed.
Simply for holding a point of view different than that of WD and for expressing it, I am subjected in this forum to this kind of abuse. Please advise WD that he is violating the TOS for this forum.

I am a caring parent that in fact does hold a different view than your own. In fact your opinion is a different view than every parent I know including the 3 principals I know on a first name basis. Teaching our children is more than just bookwork there also there is a lot of moral direction involved. I will be sure that YOU are not involved in my children, or my friends children, upbringing. You have to understand that your continued outpouring of your views and beliefs verify the facts of what will ultimately be your demise of teaching in the Santa Cruz school system. You have no one to blame but yourself.

Just another ugly chapter in the failed liberal program known as the Homeless Service Center. The entire area is now overrun with every drug addict in Northern California and Pogonip and Harvey West parks are all but lost to the community because of dangerous transients, drug addicts and Mexican gang members. The HSC has also had a very bad impact on our downtown area bringing in panhandlers and transients who think nothing of defecating in and outside of the downtown shops. When will the HSC finally clean up their act and get control of the transients? Nobody should give any money to the HSC until they can guarantee that the funds will only be spent on SC residents and not be this mecca for every addict from around the country. How about warrant checks for all transients at the center? How about cutting off cash benefits that only go to drugs and booze? Get a clue folks that your liberal program is killing the transients you THINK you are serving!

Becky Johnson wrote:

FLORIANA WRITES: "But Becky doesn't think 16 year olds are children. She has said that kids stop being children at the age of 12. After that they are teenagers. She does this to support her claim that children don't smoke marijuana."
BECKY: A 16-yr-old is a minor. Children finish their formative development at about age 12 and then transition into puberty and adulthood. Legally they are all minors until their 18th birthday. And children under age 12 RARELY smoke marijuana, even if available. We don't need to solve a problem we don't have.

Geez BJ, don't you know by now that nobody cares about anything you have to say?

WESTSIDE DAD WRITES: "I will be sure that YOU are not involved in my children, or my friends children, upbringing."

BECKY: Readers should be aware that WD has not even taken the preliminary steps needed to accomplish what he claims is already a fait accompli. He is bluffing. He's probably not even a parent of a currently enrolled student in the district.

I wouldn't want a wack job hanging around my kids.

Becky Johnson wrote:

WESTSIDE DAD WRITES: "I will be sure that YOU are not involved in my children, or my friends children, upbringing."
BECKY: Readers should be aware that WD has not even taken the preliminary steps needed to accomplish what he claims is already a fait accompli. He is bluffing. He's probably not even a parent of a currently enrolled student in the district.

Becky should be aware that she has no clue who Westside Dad really is or what this person has done. She has no idea whether any preliminary steps have been taken to keep her out of any given child's classroom.

Becky should be aware of a lot of things. But she is not.