Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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Reality wrote:

<quoted text>I can only assume that you don't have a point to make. Other than you are clueless, you see only a clueless bigot like your self would say that all gay men are flamboyant and that all lesbians are butch. But hey thats just you.

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RnL2008 wrote:

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Why the constant stereotyping? Not ALL or EVEN most Gay men are flamboyant, yet you find it necessary to make a FALSE statement or claim.......AND you don't just do this with Gay men, also with Lesbians........thinking that one is Butch and the other is fem......which is NOT truthful on your part. I mean I hardly see Ellen as the Butch, yet that is what you just described her as..........people are who they are.....there are straight men who are extremely effeminate......that doesn't make them Gay and there are straight women who are more masculine......it also doesn't mean they are Lesbians..........maybe you should judge people more on THEIR CHARACTER than whether they happen to be to feminine or masculine according to your perception!!!

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Rose_NoHo wrote:

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You're just trolling.
Everybody knows that.
That's why nobody is playing along with you.
(Changed my mind and decided to reply to you this time.)

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I gave you an opinion based upon academic findings and my own experience with people that are gay. If you're going to ask people about something, and then insult them for not giving you a reply that you like, then maybe you should reevaluate why you're asking that question. Are you asking to learn, or are you trying to reinforce a conclusion you already came up with?
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They don't act like males. They're just more likely to be true to themselves by not adhering to strict gender norms that are placed upon them by society. Also, lesbians are like every other group. Each one has specific tastes. Each lesbian has certain characteristics they find attractive, just like you and I.
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Such as?
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Why the passive aggression?

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KiMare wrote:

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Why the constant lies and denial.
I never said "all or even most".
It is a simple question. Why does a butch lesbian dress like a man to attract another lesbian?
What are you afraid to face in that answer? I would think a sensitive, intelligent person would seek to understand every aspect of themselves or another person. Are you not a sensitive, intelligent person???
Smile.

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RnL2008 wrote:

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Just because the APA doesn't KNOW the exact cause of a person's sexual orientation......doesn't mean that they are totally clueless about it either......it has been stated that it is a complex issue that involves genetics, hormones, biology and environmental factors.
The fact that you have been given links to articles that do in fact confirm that one's sexual orientation is a complex issue and many factors go into it, hasn't changed the fact that you simply ignore them!!!

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KiMare wrote:

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Ah, the classic identity of gay twirlers. Out right lie when you don't have a argument.
Please quote where I said "all".
Change your post handle, that's a lie too.
Smirk.

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Prof Marvel wrote:

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Hey, pal, I'm not the one going to school boards and adoption agencies telling them kid's sexual orientation won't be affected by transvestite teachers or men who go prancing down Main Street in penis suits and erect penis hats.
YOU'RE doing it and that means you're making a claim you -- according the the APA -- have no science to support.
If the APA doesn't know -- an idiot like you surely doesn't know.
What part of that don't you understand?

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Mona Lott wrote:

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What makes you think lesbians dress like a man to "attract another lesbian?" You create an argument over something you made up??

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Reality wrote:

<quoted text>I gave you a answer, you might not like it, that's not my problem.
How does the fact that some gay men or some lesbians dress or act flamboyant or masculine change their rights to marry? Are you mandating that we all must dress or act in a prescribed manner ?

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KiMare wrote:

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I made nothing up.
If you read their own discriptions, that is "who they are". Or, asked on your terms, okay, why do they dress up masculine?
Anything you define in relational terms must also be understood in evolutionary terms and be congruent.
Your fear is causing you to miss the simple reality that genes/brain/body 'wiring' gets mixed up all the time. Even our hair color is a mix. Denying that that mix is sometimes faulty is just plain stupid.

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Prof Marvel wrote:

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Hey, pal, I'm not the one going to school boards and adoption agencies telling them kid's sexual orientation won't be affected by transvestite teachers or men who go prancing down Main Street in penis suits and erect penis hats.
YOU'RE doing it and that means you're making a claim you -- according the the APA -- have no science to support.
If the APA doesn't know -- an idiot like you surely doesn't know.
What part of that don't you understand?

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KiMare wrote:

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There is a difference between a answer and a dodge and a guess. I'm sure you'd be concerned if you flew on a plane where the pilot held your view.
You are equating one relationship with another. Other realtionships are denied marriage because they are not the same. I am simply pointing out numerous ways gay unions are not the same, including the most basic, sexuality. In fact you are equating a broken 'object' with a natural one.

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Reality wrote:

<quoted text>Should we judge all heterosexuals based on the actions of a few?
Look dippy why do heterosexual teachers have sex with their students? It happens all the time. Based on that, heterosexuals should no be allowed to adopt children because they will have sex with them. Prancing all around the class rooms enticing young men to have sex with older women. Men teachers taking advantage of young ladies, stealing their childhood.

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RnL2008 wrote:

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Do you know the difference between TRANSGENDER and Transvestite? Somehow, I don't think you do.......I have NEVER seen a Transvestite teacher EVER. I have known Transgender teachers, but only at the College level of education.....NEVER at the elementary level........do you have actual evidence to back up your claim? or is this just crap being spewed outta your mouth?
Actually, I have more knowledge or understanding of why a person is Gay or Lesbian than you do......I also have done some research on it and have posted the articles about it......just because you opt to believe MassResistance, doesn't mean that the rest of us are as ignorant as you are on this issue!!!!

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Prof Marvel wrote:

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Assuming all you say is true, that's no defense for giving homosexuals a pass. You people seem to think all you have to do is produce an instance of a heterosexual abuse, molestation, abandonment, broken harm, etc, and it gives you a pass.
It doesn't.
Personally, I don't believe homosexuals are any more prone to pedophilia than heterosexuals. But pedophilia is not the question. The first question is whether men who dress in penis suits and erect penis hats should have access to children.
The second question is whether men who engage in a morbidly unhealthy sexual practice should have access to children.
If we don't allow gay men to donate blood, how can we in good conscience allow them to adopt?

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Prof Marvel wrote:

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Are you telling us you think transvestites should be prohibited from becoming school teachers? If you are, tell us why.
As to you having more knowledge about gay or lesbian than I do, how can you say that if you've never read Shilts or Rotello?
Or Mass Resistance ...?
And I'd be interested in hearing what facts you believe Mass Resistance gets wrong.
You people are quick to call Mass Resistance and every other organization that doesn't accept the LGBT agenda a hate group, but when asked to explain why, you never follow-up.

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Jess wrote:

Woohoo!!