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Steve wrote:

Not a word on these this morning from the GOD Talking, Talking Heads of Brownwood's CONservative KXYL, who "Mock and Mislead" so often on the air !
‘Messianic Marlboro Man’: Are American-Born Settlers More Likely to Go Postal?
http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c40_...
CAIR-Tampa Seeks Hate Crime Charges for Attack on 'Terrorist' Priest
http://orlando.bizjournals.com/orlando/prnews...

by Michele Chabin
Israel Correspondent

Jerusalem — When Dina Kraft, a Tel Aviv-based journalist, heard that American-Israeli settler Yaakov “Jack” Teitel had been arrested for the alleged murder of two Arabs and attacks on a messianic Jewish family and a left-wing professor, her first thought was:“What, another American-born terrorist in Israel?”
Evidently, many other Israelis had the same thought.

The newspaper Haaretz, for example, ran its front-page story on Teitel under a large headline proclaiming,“U.S.-Born Terrorist Suspected of Series of Attacks over Past 12 Years.”

This reaction stung many of the country’s approximately 200,000 American immigrants, the vast majority of whom are law-abiding citizens. Since last week, when Israeli police lifted a three-week gag order on Teitel’s arrest, people here have been weighing in on whether
something in the taciturn immigrant’s American upbringing led him to move to an ideological West Bank settlement and to hate Arabs, gays, messianic Jews and liberals.

Many have pointed to the ease with which most Americans can obtain a gun (the “gun culture”) and the many shootings by people who have “gone postal” in schools, malls and on college campuses.
They have theorized that perhaps Teitel, who reportedly kept an arsenal of weapons in his yard and barely spoke a word of Hebrew, was attracted to his West Bank settlement the way American survivalists are drawn to the hill country.

http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c40_...

Hezekiah wrote:

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If you're so concerned about 9/11, then why did you support the invasion of Iraq and quitting the hunt for Bin Laden?

But you so easily forget how many of your beloved D party that supported the invasion of Iraq. Do you have Alzheimer's?
The hunt for Bin Laden never stopped, never slowed down. That's just a lie that you enjoy repeating.
No, the Japs could have probably never invaded the U.S., but the Third Reich might could have. At the very least, most of Europe would be their's. You have a very twisted view of history.

Don't you mean Muhammad is a pedophile?

Steve wrote:

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by Michele Chabin
Israel Correspondent
Jerusalem — When Dina Kraft, a Tel Aviv-based journalist, heard that American-Israeli settler Yaakov “Jack” Teitel had been arrested for the alleged murder of two Arabs and attacks on a messianic Jewish family and a left-wing professor, her first thought was:“What, another American-born terrorist in Israel?”
Evidently, many other Israelis had the same thought.
The newspaper Haaretz, for example, ran its front-page story on Teitel under a large headline proclaiming,“U.S.-Born Terrorist Suspected of Series of Attacks over Past 12 Years.”
This reaction stung many of the country’s approximately 200,000 American immigrants, the vast majority of whom are law-abiding citizens. Since last week, when Israeli police lifted a three-week gag order on Teitel’s arrest, people here have been weighing in on whether
something in the taciturn immigrant’s American upbringing led him to move to an ideological West Bank settlement and to hate Arabs, gays, messianic Jews and liberals.
Many have pointed to the ease with which most Americans can obtain a gun (the “gun culture”) and the many shootings by people who have “gone postal” in schools, malls and on college campuses.
They have theorized that perhaps Teitel, who reportedly kept an arsenal of weapons in his yard and barely spoke a word of Hebrew, was attracted to his West Bank settlement the way American survivalists are drawn to the hill country.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c40_...

American survivalists are drawn to the hill country

Allah is a pedophile wrote:

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But you so easily forget how many of your beloved D party that supported the invasion of Iraq. Do you have Alzheimer's?
The hunt for Bin Laden never stopped, never slowed down. That's just a lie that you enjoy repeating.
No, the Japs could have probably never invaded the U.S., but the Third Reich might could have. At the very least, most of Europe would be their's. You have a very twisted view of history.

If we would have taken the same limp-wristed approach to the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor that we put forth after the attack on the U.S.S. Cole or the '93 World Trade Center there is no doubt in my mind that the Japanese would have crippled America's ability to project it's power around the world. Whether an Imperial Japanese soldier ever set foot on American soil is irrelevant. Japan would have become the world's first post WWII super power and America's sphere of influence would have been confined to the Western Hemisphere. We would most certainly have been forced into the role of unwilling trade partner on the worst of terms as Japan pillaged this country for her rich natural resources.

Keep in mind, the Japanese were hard at work on their own atomic bomb and would not have hesitated to use it if they had developed it first. Which side of the surrender desk do you think MacArthur would have been sitting on in that event? Does an occupying force from Imperial Japan seem so far fetched if Washington, New York and L.A. are smoking, radioactive craters?

Hez, I've seen First Source material that indicate these were serious, legitimate threats that factored into strategic planning. Your argument is based on wishful thinking and revisionist rhetoric. You really ought to pay attention to real history and sift out the things you wish were true because they fit your liberal world view.

Hezekiah wrote:

Don't you mean Muhammad is a pedophile?

Oh snap! Hez gave you the "Full Steve," And went for the change-the-subject-and-distrac t-with-trivia-instead-of-addre ssing-the-issue plan.(I think that's Plan 9, isn't it?) Better watch out, next he'll accuse you of "mocking and misleading."

Hezekiah wrote:

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There's a certain amount of historical truth in the idea that some wars have had to be fought to throw off the yoke of oppression. But very few in America.
Our wars have mostly been fought for other reasons. We entered WWII to fight for the liberation of Europe. Pearl Harbor gave us the political will. But we were not in danger of becoming slaves of the Third Reich. We were not going to be occupied by Japanese soldiers.
I certainly don't owe you my freedom. You're just another Teabagger blowhard who really gets more upset about entitlements to the unworthy than dead soldiers who after all come from the class you despise.
If you're so concerned about 9/11, then why did you support the invasion of Iraq and quitting the hunt for Bin Laden? If you want revenge for 9/11, how much more will it take? How many more American soldiers have to die until you're satisfied?
If we had not even responded to 9/11, other than an international police action against criminals, America would still be just as free today, maybe even more so. You might disagree with this obvious truth, but stop pretending that you have a goddamn thing to do with my freedom.

Well, you are practically quivering with righteous indignation. What's got you so upset? Is it really the deaths of American soldiers that have you stamping your little foot or is it the stone cold fact that whether you like it our not, others are more willing to fight for your freedom than you are.

You say that if we had followed the international criminal approach to pursuing terrorists we would be as free or more free than we are today. Empirical evidence does not bear this out. The '93 bombing was carried out by terrorists who were emboldened (by their own admission) by the weak response to the Cole attack. The 9/11 attacks were in the same way built upon the foundation of '93. Even today we see the levels of violence rising in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan as the president drags his feet on our commitment to the Afghan war.

No, you don't owe me your freedom. But you do owe a debt of thanks as well as your very liberty to those who have fought and will continue to fight for it whether you as an individual deserve it or not.

Steve wrote:

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by Michele Chabin
Israel Correspondent
Jerusalem — When Dina Kraft, a Tel Aviv-based journalist, heard that American-Israeli settler Yaakov “Jack” Teitel had been arrested for the alleged murder of two Arabs and attacks on a messianic Jewish family and a left-wing professor, her first thought was:“What, another American-born terrorist in Israel?”
Evidently, many other Israelis had the same thought.
The newspaper Haaretz, for example, ran its front-page story on Teitel under a large headline proclaiming,“U.S.-Born Terrorist Suspected of Series of Attacks over Past 12 Years.”
This reaction stung many of the country’s approximately 200,000 American immigrants, the vast majority of whom are law-abiding citizens. Since last week, when Israeli police lifted a three-week gag order on Teitel’s arrest, people here have been weighing in on whether
something in the taciturn immigrant’s American upbringing led him to move to an ideological West Bank settlement and to hate Arabs, gays, messianic Jews and liberals.
Many have pointed to the ease with which most Americans can obtain a gun (the “gun culture”) and the many shootings by people who have “gone postal” in schools, malls and on college campuses.
They have theorized that perhaps Teitel, who reportedly kept an arsenal of weapons in his yard and barely spoke a word of Hebrew, was attracted to his West Bank settlement the way American survivalists are drawn to the hill country.
http://www.thejewishweek.com/viewArticle/c40_...

Do the GOD Talking, War Cheerleading, Chickenhawk CONservative Talking Heads, of Brownwood's CONservative KXYL EVER broach the Pushing Armageddon Christians ? This attitude may hit too close to KXYL Country !

Armageddon Lobby -- trying to hurry up God --Its "Christian" Muscle

With the collapse of communism (and Nazism before it) mankind's utopian fantasies have returned to a religious hue. The Armageddonites (and their co-believer extreme fundamentalists in the Muslim and Jewish worlds) are the new dreamers of bringing paradise to earth, just, however, with the need to eliminate much of the human race first. In America we have now this strange alliance, the Israeli Likud settler lobby gets money, guns and political cover. In exchange millions of born again "rapture" evangelicals gain fulfillment, believing that they are helping God to end the world during their lifetimes and thereby will get a quick pass to heaven "without dying" (no judgment day). Oh, and with the death of all Jews (and the rest of the human race) who do not convert to their faith. Their "Heaven" incidentally, is sort of socialist with no inequality and everyone rich. A popular Gaither Singers song describes how one won't need to cut the grass in Heaven.
The Book of Revelations in the Bible, upon which they build their scenario, is also very controversial. It was made scripture three centuries after the death of Christ. "Traditionally attributed to St. John, most Biblical scholars now recognize its literary style and its theology has little in common with John's gospel or his epistles and was likely written after his death. Martin Luther found the vindictive God of Revelations incompatible with the gospels and relegated it to the appendix of his German translation of the New Testament instead of the body of scripture. All the Protestant reformers except Calvin regarded apocalyptic millenialism to be heresy."

http://www.iraqwar.org/ArmageddonUpdates.htm

Observing History wrote:

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Well, you are practically quivering with righteous indignation. What's got you so upset? Is it really the deaths of American soldiers that have you stamping your little foot or is it the stone cold fact that whether you like it our not, others are more willing to fight for your freedom than you are.
You say that if we had followed the international criminal approach to pursuing terrorists we would be as free or more free than we are today. Empirical evidence does not bear this out. The '93 bombing was carried out by terrorists who were emboldened (by their own admission) by the weak response to the Cole attack. The 9/11 attacks were in the same way built upon the foundation of '93. Even today we see the levels of violence rising in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan as the president drags his feet on our commitment to the Afghan war.
No, you don't owe me your freedom. But you do owe a debt of thanks as well as your very liberty to those who have fought and will continue to fight for it whether you as an individual deserve it or not.

I was upset that people who volunteered for the military before Bush's Oil War were used as pawns in a game to enrich the powerful. But as years went by, I figured anyone who joins the military understands what they are doing.

Most people in wars never know what they are really dying for. Sure, there's always plenty of cheerleader jackoffs crowing about liberty and freedom, but that's obviously not true. Terrorists of all stripes kill people in the name of liberty and freedom from oppression. You're no different from them, except you only kill people vicariously. That's the root of your gratitude.

I know who threatens my freedom, and it's not Al Qaeda or Bin Laden.

Steve wrote:

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Do the GOD Talking, War Cheerleading, Chickenhawk CONservative Talking Heads, of Brownwood's CONservative KXYL EVER broach the Pushing Armageddon Christians ? This attitude may hit too close to KXYL Country !
Armageddon Lobby -- trying to hurry up God --Its "Christian" Muscle
With the collapse of communism (and Nazism before it) mankind's utopian fantasies have returned to a religious hue. The Armageddonites (and their co-believer extreme fundamentalists in the Muslim and Jewish worlds) are the new dreamers of bringing paradise to earth, just, however, with the need to eliminate much of the human race first. In America we have now this strange alliance, the Israeli Likud settler lobby gets money, guns and political cover. In exchange millions of born again "rapture" evangelicals gain fulfillment, believing that they are helping God to end the world during their lifetimes and thereby will get a quick pass to heaven "without dying" (no judgment day). Oh, and with the death of all Jews (and the rest of the human race) who do not convert to their faith. Their "Heaven" incidentally, is sort of socialist with no inequality and everyone rich. A popular Gaither Singers song describes how one won't need to cut the grass in Heaven.
The Book of Revelations in the Bible, upon which they build their scenario, is also very controversial. It was made scripture three centuries after the death of Christ. "Traditionally attributed to St. John, most Biblical scholars now recognize its literary style and its theology has little in common with John's gospel or his epistles and was likely written after his death. Martin Luther found the vindictive God of Revelations incompatible with the gospels and relegated it to the appendix of his German translation of the New Testament instead of the body of scripture. All the Protestant reformers except Calvin regarded apocalyptic millenialism to be heresy."
http://www.iraqwar.org/ArmageddonUpdates.htm

Why would KXYL want to interview any of these people? KXYL does lean to the right, but no farther than the majority of the community. You find isolated examples of tiny fringe kook groups and then attempt to paint the entire community with that brush.

Steve, do you have the balls to tell your customers to their faces what you say about them on this forum? I bet if half the people in this community knew how you really feel about Brownwood and Brownwoodians that you wouldn't make enough money to keep your doors open. Maybe somebody ought to tell them. Maybe links to your posts ought to be emailed to every HPU professor and every business leader in this town. I bet the Chamber of Commerce would be very amused at the way a local businessman paints this town for the world to see. Perhaps somebody ought to print off a stack of you most colorful entries and tack them to every telephone pole and sign post in town and stick them under every windshield wiper at Wal Mart. Of course, we would have to include the phone number and a little map to the deli so folks could drop by and give you a pat on the back for you great work as a "community organizer."

Observing History wrote:

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Oh snap! Hez gave you the "Full Steve," And went for the change-the-subject-and-distrac t-with-trivia-instead-of-addre ssing-the-issue plan.(I think that's Plan 9, isn't it?) Better watch out, next he'll accuse you of "mocking and misleading."

Jesus also loves the little children of the world.

Multiple Observations, don't I also owe some of my freedom from Nazi Germany to Stalinist Russia? It's all so confusing. Thank God there's people like you to determine what we should kill and die for.

Question Mark wrote:

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Why would KXYL want to interview any of these people? KXYL does lean to the right, but no farther than the majority of the community. You find isolated examples of tiny fringe kook groups and then attempt to paint the entire community with that brush.
Steve, do you have the balls to tell your customers to their faces what you say about them on this forum? I bet if half the people in this community knew how you really feel about Brownwood and Brownwoodians that you wouldn't make enough money to keep your doors open. Maybe somebody ought to tell them. Maybe links to your posts ought to be emailed to every HPU professor and every business leader in this town. I bet the Chamber of Commerce would be very amused at the way a local businessman paints this town for the world to see. Perhaps somebody ought to print off a stack of you most colorful entries and tack them to every telephone pole and sign post in town and stick them under every windshield wiper at Wal Mart. Of course, we would have to include the phone number and a little map to the deli so folks could drop by and give you a pat on the back for you great work as a "community organizer."

What a "Mocking and Misleading" performance from, I'd wager, a War Cheerleading Chickenhawk BuSh supporting CONservative who "Mocks and Misleads" and Swiftboats OBAMA on the Brownwood airwaves of KXYL 96.9. and claims to be against the STIMULUS funds while recieving stimulus funds in their paycheck ! So many millions of STIMULUS dollars flowing around Anti- Stimulus Lee Atwaterish KXYL-land !

'Boogie Man' Lee Atwater: Truly Scary
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...

Hezekiah wrote:

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I was upset that people who volunteered for the military before Bush's Oil War were used as pawns in a game to enrich the powerful. But as years went by, I figured anyone who joins the military understands what they are doing.
Most people in wars never know what they are really dying for. Sure, there's always plenty of cheerleader jackoffs crowing about liberty and freedom, but that's obviously not true. Terrorists of all stripes kill people in the name of liberty and freedom from oppression. You're no different from them, except you only kill people vicariously. That's the root of your gratitude.
I know who threatens my freedom, and it's not Al Qaeda or Bin Laden.

What do you do for a living? I'm just curious because you sure are angry. I'd be interested to know just exactly how you've been oppressed in this community and by whom. It might be interesting to know if you' like Steve, make a nice living off the people you revile. I'd also be interested to know what your contribution to society is. What's your function, other than being an Internet jackoff, I mean?

Hezekiah wrote:

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Jesus also loves the little children of the world.
Multiple Observations, don't I also owe some of my freedom from Nazi Germany to Stalinist Russia? It's all so confusing. Thank God there's people like you to determine what we should kill and die for.

Wow. Hez walked past a history book once. Yep, the Reds were our allies during WWII. Roosevelt didn't like them and didn't trust them. Churchill didn't like them and didn't trust them. Truman didn't like them and didn't trust them. But the Russians kept the Germans tied up on the Eastern front so we took the "any enemy of my enemy is my friend" approach.

After the war it became obvious that Stalin wasn't through with the land grab that started with Poland. Once the reds aquired the A-bomb through espionage in 1949 it kicked the stakes of the Cold War to a whole new level.

The lesson? Sometimes one is forced to make pragmatic choices to keep from getting your ass handed to you. Would we better better off today under Russian or German rule?

Why do Moral Relativists try to argue from moral absolutes? You can't even discern right from wrong, are blind to the evil before your eyes but want to lecture others about what is "fair" or what is "right!"

The other lesson is that things change. Just because someone was a friend before doesn't mean they'll always be our friend in the future. Lefties like you seem to want to always pretend that the world is static. Your notion of social justice reflects a 19th century view of the world and class relations. Things have changed since Marx and Engles wrote the "Communist Manifesto."

I'm the pastor of a small Baptist church in Brown County.

I've never said I'm oppressed by my friends and neighbors. I just said that Al Qaeda and Bin Laden aren't my oppressors.

If I have kept track of your posts written with multiple observational names, you seem to place a great emphasis on one's contributions to society.

Why do you ask me such questions without at least first boasting of your own worthiness? Do you have a lot of money? Do you have to pay a lot of taxes? What other criteria do you use?

I'm not angry, Multiple Observations. I don't even think Steve is angry, although I don't know him. I nearly ate at his deli for the first time the other day, but it was too crowded and I didn't want to wait.

I think you just don't like criticism.

Direct Observation wrote:

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Wow. Hez walked past a history book once. Yep, the Reds were our allies during WWII....

I was simply asking if I owe the commies a similar debt of gratitude for my freedom since they did more to defeat Germany than we did.

I'm not glorifying Marx or Mao, or even Hegel. I think Gandhi and MLK had better ideas about fighting for freedom than any of the chickenhawk Teabaggers who populate the GOP these days.

Anyway, the Oil War in Iraq is pretty far removed from WWII. Political ideologies are not being fought out in the Middle East. It's not even about religion. It's sure as hell not about freedom and liberty. It's all about oil.

If you don't agree, wait until the solar economy overtakes the fossil fuel economy, and let's judge how important the Middle East is then.

Hezekiah wrote:

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I was simply asking if I owe the commies a similar debt of gratitude for my freedom since they did more to defeat Germany than we did.
I'm not glorifying Marx or Mao, or even Hegel. I think Gandhi and MLK had better ideas about fighting for freedom than any of the chickenhawk Teabaggers who populate the GOP these days.
Anyway, the Oil War in Iraq is pretty far removed from WWII. Political ideologies are not being fought out in the Middle East. It's not even about religion. It's sure as hell not about freedom and liberty. It's all about oil.
If you don't agree, wait until the solar economy overtakes the fossil fuel economy, and let's judge how important the Middle East is then.

Hez, I'd wager It's about religion for the BuSh/Palin/Huckabee Armageddonites of the area !

Armageddon Lobby -- trying to hurry up God --Its "Christian" Muscle
http://www.iraqwar.org/ArmageddonUpdates.htm

The Crusade against Iraqi Muslims
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Hezekiah wrote:

I'm the pastor of a small Baptist church in Brown County.
I've never said I'm oppressed by my friends and neighbors. I just said that Al Qaeda and Bin Laden aren't my oppressors.
If I have kept track of your posts written with multiple observational names, you seem to place a great emphasis on one's contributions to society.
Why do you ask me such questions without at least first boasting of your own worthiness? Do you have a lot of money? Do you have to pay a lot of taxes? What other criteria do you use?
I'm not angry, Multiple Observations. I don't even think Steve is angry, although I don't know him. I nearly ate at his deli for the first time the other day, but it was too crowded and I didn't want to wait.
I think you just don't like criticism.

I admit that I'm quite surprised that you are a Baptist minister in this area. Is your flock aware of the opinions you post on this forum? Many of your posts seem at odds with what I've learned in the Baptist church. In fact many of them seem at odds with the tenets of any mainstream Christian denomination. What would your church members think if they knew what you are saying? Or is this church and Christian bashing a "Mon-Sat" lifestyle and then you slip on your preacher face for Sundays. Perhaps that's how you know so much about the hypocrisy of Christians?

Now, just for clarification-- were you ordained by some sort of official Baptist seminary or are you the Right Reverend Hezekiah of the Universal Life Church, where $30.00 can make you a holy man in the faith of your choice?

I don't want to discuss religion with you because you are extremely blasphemous.

Hezekiah wrote:

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I was simply asking if I owe the commies a similar debt of gratitude for my freedom since they did more to defeat Germany than we did.
I'm not glorifying Marx or Mao, or even Hegel. I think Gandhi and MLK had better ideas about fighting for freedom than any of the chickenhawk Teabaggers who populate the GOP these days.
Anyway, the Oil War in Iraq is pretty far removed from WWII. Political ideologies are not being fought out in the Middle East. It's not even about religion. It's sure as hell not about freedom and liberty. It's all about oil.
If you don't agree, wait until the solar economy overtakes the fossil fuel economy, and let's judge how important the Middle East is then.

Your assertion that "It's all about oil" is as oversimplified and wrong-headed as those who claim the war in Iraq was all about WMDs. So is being wrong and misguided on the left any better than being wrong and misguided on the right? There are so many complicated factors that play into the policy in the Middle East that even the guys with folders full of classified documents don't have the full picture and filter their judgments through the lens of their own agenda's and world views.

You are right about one thing, a "solar economy" or any economy that is based on a sustainable, renewable, economically viable (without the need for subsidy) alternative fuel source will be a game changer. The entire balance of power in the Middle East as well as wealthy oil nations' ability to project that power will shift.

Speaking of filtering one's judgments through the lens of one's own agenda and world views... Would you say that as a Baptist minister that you share a certain perspective on America with your esteemed colleague Jeremiah Wright? Two men of the cloth cut from the same bolt, I would say. Do you, like Rev. Wright think that God is, or perhaps pray that God will damn America?

Answer this: Although you come from the opposite ends of the political spectrum, you seem to be two sides of the same coin. What exactly is the difference between you and Fred Phelps? You both use fringe political thinking to justify your beliefs. You both hold the most hateful, exterme beliefs of the right and the left, yet both call yourselves Baptist ministers. You both condemn those who disagree with you in the most offensive and judgmental language you can think of-- "chickenhawk teabaggers" for instance. I think it is interesting that a baptist minister would refer to anyone as a teabagger since that is a phrase from gay slang indicating a man who covers another man's mouth and nose with his scrotum. How does your congregation feel about that? Would they be proud of how you represent yourself and your church in this community?

I think that as somebody who purports to be a minister and yet makes some of the outrageous statements you make that you must be spending time reading the wrong book. Perhaps you ought to spend less time with "Dreams of My Father," and a few more minutes with the Bible.