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800-mile express lane network proposed for Bay Area freeways

A Bay Area transportation commission proposes creating a $3.7 billion, 800-mile-long network of mixed-use carpool and toll lanes on more than 12 freeways in a major attempt to ease chronic traffic congestion.

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Heather
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#1
Jul 23, 2008
 
Well it is official....N. CA has become S. CA.
LetUsDemand
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#2
Jul 23, 2008
 
How many PH D's are engaged in this billion dollar study? Have they made several comparative calculations based on alternative means of transportation instead of just the old commute car and toll system that makes money but burns more energy per mile? As usual these degreed people are probably under the direct supervision of influential but less competent politicians that will never push for mass transportation despite the glaring need for it. Maybe it's time the citizens take over their government and put the issue of energy and transportation systems and development to the vote, I'm sure those in government will be in for a big surprise.
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#3
Jul 23, 2008
 
Nice try. It won't solve the problem of heavy traffic due to the increase in the number of new drivers in that time period. High speed rail or some other form of mass transportation is badly
needed. It shouldn't take a group study to arrive at the solution of this problem. The problem has been growing for many years.
GEE
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#4
Jul 23, 2008
 
Jus Jim, that would be a totally foreign concept.
We need public transportation that will take people where they have to go and connections to areas of work centers. Toll lanes are enabling those that have the money to afford the gas and toll, and will do nothing to help the rest, as well as the environment.
These monies should have been spent to study/expand the public transportation system and place it in the area of the proposed toll lanes.
See I-80 and the current construction. Tons of space to put elevated tracks where the commuter lanes are going to go. We need these so called experts that are only living in the present without a vision for the future?
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Jul 23, 2008
 
Figures published by the Federal Highway Administration indicate 10K trucks a day on California I-5 and connectors. You have probably noticed the volume of truck freight, at all hours of the day. The nation is starting to wake up to the fact that non-essential freight would be more efficiently moved on water, not to mention the reduction of greenhouse gas volume and the unburdening of some of our freeway systems. There are no "short-sea" carriers in the nation, as the type of ship required has not been built in the US yet. This type of ship has been in use in Europe for 20 years now. The ships and/or tug barges are shallow drafted and can deliver containerized freight to many coastal and inland ports after picking it off the huge mother ships at Oakland or LA/Long Beach.
Mare Island has the capacity to do a lot of things for the State and nation with the restored use of the drydocks, in addition to enduring the temporary project of dismantling a dozen or so old ships that are polluting the bay constantly now. I have complete confidence that the present applicant, Allied, trying to lease two drydocks at MI, can fill this need for the new class of "greenship" that will put non-time critical freight, as most of it is, on our "marine highway" instead of expanding existing asphalt footprints. I am convinced that this type of vision is not in the strategy of the partnership with Lennar at MI, and Vallejo is in desperate need of something positive at this point in it's history. The drydocks must be put back into service for many wins on a local and global level.
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#6
Jul 23, 2008
 
O.K. if you must use the existing freeways why not pass a law that states cars to the left must be traviling faster then those in the right hand lanes, if not they must move to the right. Enforce it with CHP durning all hours and you will use the roads more effecticly.
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#7
Jul 23, 2008
 
hot = hairbrained operation of transportation sustem. it translates to increased revienue for the government to mis use. look in some areas where the diamond lanes are. 6 or 7 lanes and the turn off is on the right so the guy in the diamond lanes puts on brakes to try to work 6 lanes over to get to his turn off.
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#8
Jul 23, 2008
 
I remember when I was commuting to San Francisco from Solano County ... we were so excited about the new commute lanes but by the time they were completed ...they were moving just as slow as the other lanes. I'd have to agree with the previous poster that some type of an elevated system should be considered.

I don't miss that commute at all. I'm living on the beach in a small community on the Oregon Coast. When folks say "isn't the traffic terrible today?" I just have to laugh ... they have no clue!
MI Neighbor
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Jul 23, 2008
 
XMI wrote:
Figures published by the Federal Highway Administration indicate 10K trucks a day on California I-5 and connectors. You have probably noticed the volume of truck freight, at all hours of the day. The nation is starting to wake up to the fact that non-essential freight would be more efficiently moved on water, not to mention the reduction of greenhouse gas volume and the unburdening of some of our freeway systems. There are no "short-sea" carriers in the nation, as the type of ship required has not been built in the US yet. This type of ship has been in use in Europe for 20 years now. The ships and/or tug barges are shallow drafted and can deliver containerized freight to many coastal and inland ports after picking it off the huge mother ships at Oakland or LA/Long Beach.
Mare Island has the capacity to do a lot of things for the State and nation with the restored use of the drydocks, in addition to enduring the temporary project of dismantling a dozen or so old ships that are polluting the bay constantly now. I have complete confidence that the present applicant, Allied, trying to lease two drydocks at MI, can fill this need for the new class of "greenship" that will put non-time critical freight, as most of it is, on our "marine highway" instead of expanding existing asphalt footprints. I am convinced that this type of vision is not in the strategy of the partnership with Lennar at MI, and Vallejo is in desperate need of something positive at this point in it's history. The drydocks must be put back into service for many wins on a local and global level.
This green ship freight system is so compatible with the new green building technologies and designs that Touro will use in their project. Vallejo could become a model for other cities in the development of business models that use emerging green technologies. Now, we're going somewhere, finally!
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#10
Jul 24, 2008
 
Toll would be 20-60 cents PER MILE? In other words, depending on how long we travel in the HOT lane, we'd be charged per mile with this transponder?
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