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Polygamist Teen Gives Birth

Child welfare officials in Texas have yet another child to place, this one a healthy boy born Tuesday.

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These people are even more mentally ill than catholics. Inbreeding, anyone?
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You again.
No, they are not mentally ill.
Inbreeding, well, probably, given they have certain characteristic disease processes.
I don't think they're mentally ill. I think it's just gone on so long, these people, generations upcoming, no longer know any different. It's been a century long wave, cycle, of abuse. It's only the few who have gotten out, i.e. Carolyn Jessup and others, who have come forward. If some of these women can choose to run for it, others can as well.
After all is said and done, it will be interesting to see what they do to the men who have committed these repeated rapes of minors.
Also, I wonder how many will willingly return to the compound.
I hope the state allows mother (teen or not) to stay with her new infant and bond. Dividing them could be horrific for that infant.
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Ok..just what the world needs is another Jessup . Inbreeding just like the Amish. I say get that new baby away as soon as possible. Give the newborn a legal way out. Don't let it bond with its child mother.
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its like olean!
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I wouldn't expect anything different from the inbred southern americans.

I think the whole reason this country doesn't split off and send all the god fearing republicans to the south is that we need natural gas for winter warmth in the north.
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Apr 30, 2008
 
yup and Randolph and Tionesta PA and the list goes on. The Millers , the Bielers and the list goes on.....

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The spin goes on and on:

According to court documents this girl is 18 years old and is married to a husband who is 20 years and she is his only wife.

Here are more of the facts:
http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_9095983

http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_9056589
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Maybe all you people who want to speak mean of the horrible situation these young girls are in should take a step back and wake up!!! These poor young girls dont know any other life style they dont know its wrong. there moms did it there grammas did it.you cant blame a child for the wrong of the parent. STOP bashing them and PRAY For them!!!!!

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Praying for them will help. But the US government needs to quit supporting this cult with all that welfare money. Let the fathers take responible for there handy work of making all those babies. The child can't be blamed for mistakes of its parents. Why should these poor children be made to live in a compound with high fences and towers with guards in them? That isn't normal living..that is being in prison. Do you think that is fair for a child to be raised in???
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Apr 30, 2008
 
yankeeuk wrote:
Praying for them will help. But the US government needs to quit supporting this cult with all that welfare money. Let the fathers take responible for there handy work of making all those babies. The child can't be blamed for mistakes of its parents. Why should these poor children be made to live in a compound with high fences and towers with guards in them? That isn't normal living..that is being in prison. Do you think that is fair for a child to be raised in???
when has praying ever done anything?.....show me!
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Apr 30, 2008
 
I don't see them taking children away from the 14 year old girls everywhere else having children anywhere else. It's like they are standing over these people waiting to snatch their children. What ever happened to innocent till proven guilty and due process?
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Apr 30, 2008
 
Teens give birth all the time and society gives them welfare like crazy. These folks are getting railroaded. The molesters should be shot, but these women are getting a raw deal.
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If any of you have been taking in the info on all the news channels you would also know that the reason they have such a large group in Texas is because Texas doesn't require a birth or death certificate. There can be babies born, married, have children and die and there is no record of them. The husbands can in their cult kill a wife or child if they believe they have done something so unforgivable to the cult or adult male. With Texas on the fast track to the death penalty maybe they should update some of their other laws. I think a birth and/or death certificate is a very improtant document to have.
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This is what happens when you allow 50 year old geezers to have their way with girls that aren't old enough to know any better.
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Not sure if many of you are aware or not, but this isn't the first time in history that this has happened. Same religion, same type of government action...The Short Creek Raid of 1953.

Colorado City, Arizona — Horrified by stories of rape, incest and men taking young girls as brides, the new governor of Arizona quietly made plans to invade this polygamist settlement in the summer of 1953:
Shortly before dawn on July 26, a raiding party of about 120 law enforcement officers — state Highway Patrol, sheriff's deputies and liquor control agents — descended on Short Creek.
Somewhere in the desert, a lookout signaled the posse's approach with a blast of dynamite.
"Me and my sister went into the garden and hid behind the bushes, and this policeman came looking for us," recalled Shari Hammon, who was 10 at the time.
"He said,'Get out, ma'am,' to my sister, and my sister said,'Get the hell out of here!' "
The rest of the town, members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, gathered in the schoolyard, waving flags and singing "God Bless America."
By day's end, families and crying children were separated in a scene that would haunt political leaders for years to come. In all, 36 men were arrested. Authorities loaded 86 women and 263 children aboard buses to Phoenix.

But the public was angrier at the state than at the polygamists.
Arizona Gov. J. Howard Pyle, a Republican, took to the radio, saying "the foulest conspiracy you could imagine" was underway in the community. He said there had been wholesale abuse and enslavement of children, especially girls who were forced into a "shameful mockery of marriage."
"Here is a community … dedicated to the wicked theory that every maturing girl child should be forced into bondage of multiple wifehood with men of all ages for the sole purpose of producing more children to be reared to become more chattels of this totally lawless enterprise," he told the radio audience.
As sympathy built for the FLDS, Pyle was denounced and ridiculed by newspaper editorials. The raid was called "Pyle's Folly."
The Arizona Republic said the action would have made the Keystone Kops "green with envy" and resembled "too closely the hated police-state roundups of the Old World."
Religious leaders and political rivals accused him of using excessive force.
Democrats decried the action as "odious and un-American." A prominent Mormon leader denounced the "tyrannical methods" used.
The raid's results were meager in court as well. Charges of statutory rape and contributing to the delinquency of a minor were dropped. The men pleaded guilty to conspiracy to violate laws against bigamy, and open and notorious cohabitation. One-year suspended sentences were handed out. Many promptly returned to Short Creek with their families.
For years, the raid was memorialized each July with speeches and parades. Town officials erected a monument to the event. "They are very proud of what they went through," said Marshall Trimble, Arizona's state historian. This "was their personal Holocaust."
It was in fact a political disaster for Pyle. He lost his reelection bid. And the episode was seen as ushering in half a century of political timidity in the face of FLDS abuse.
This sounds all too familiar to what is happening today doesn't it? But my opinion is, if this happened in 1953, then how can someone ask why is it happening now? It seems pretty obvious that these people are only following what their parents and grandparents did, and they truly believe that this is the way they should lead their lives.

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Apr 30, 2008
 
Hannah Rebekah wrote:
The spin goes on and on:
According to court documents this girl is 18 years old and is married to a husband who is 20 years and she is his only wife.
Here are more of the facts:
http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_9095983
http://www.sltrib.com/polygamy/ci_9056589
This is her second child. She was 18 when she had her first.

Yes, keep spinning...

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Apr 30, 2008
 
16 when she had her first child...
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Apr 30, 2008
 
Lydia wrote:
If any of you have been taking in the info on all the news channels you would also know that the reason they have such a large group in Texas is because Texas doesn't require a birth or death certificate. There can be babies born, married, have children and die and there is no record of them. The husbands can in their cult kill a wife or child if they believe they have done something so unforgivable to the cult or adult male. With Texas on the fast track to the death penalty maybe they should update some of their other laws. I think a birth and/or death certificate is a very improtant document to have.
You know there is a method to their evilness and they moved to texas on purpose for that reason.
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Apr 30, 2008
 
I believe this is one reason they are going after the dna.. first to establish families, Mothers and children, next I'll be they do go after the men.
All that back child support they owe the state.. whoo hoo...
seriously tho', separate them? what a horrible option. Cult or not, they are still mother and child. I really believe these young girls KNOW NO DIFFERENT.
Also, they just reported 41 of the children have had broken bones. OMG that's a pretty high percentage.
Olean sucks, too. Almost as bad as Hillview Homes. Now there's a classy joint.
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Apr 30, 2008
 
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16 when she had her first child...
Which meant the father was around 21, against teh law in the state of Texas, consent can be given at 16, but the other partner cannot be more then 3 years older, so, correct me I am wrong, but this is statutory rape in our state. I only glanced thru the article once i saw the ages and the fact that she had another child. It all became clear. My mother said on the phone just now that the other partner could not be more then 18 months older...so I will research that. Either way, it was against the law.
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