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Louie
Bethpage, NY
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This is the type of moron that our tax dollars are wasted on!
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ABCDEFG
Mississauga, Canada
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any update on this story?
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Joshua Grutman
New York, NY
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Who the hell are you to make that claim? My mother is a teacher. My father is a former immigration lawyer. My older brother is a recruiter for IT firms. My youngest brother is a college senior and one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. I'm a real estate salesman and playwright. Evan has completed three years of college and is going back to finish his degree once he's found not guilty of this crime. Who the hell are you to make that baseless claim? Thugs and crooks? You have some nerve, and it's nice that Newsday will let you say that about us.
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LSB
New York, NY
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Your father is a FORMER immigration lawyer because he was disbarred.
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Louie Isaretard Isalooser
Port Washington, NY
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"Second of all, nice life you've got there, with all your time to post messages" by my count you have the most number of responses to this article so maybe its you who doesn't have a life especially if you're able to write your responses in a well organized essay with a thesis statement and 3 supporting body paragraphs p.s. i have some advice for you for when you go to jail for being a pedophile (which you probably are)....DON'T DROP THE SOAP
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Disgusting
Great Neck, NY
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that louie isaretard is a menace to society...what happened to all of his posts? got flagged huh? well that ignorant man deserved it!!!...he's making my gertle get tied up in knots!!!
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Here Here
Great Neck, NY
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GospelGal
Great Neck, NY
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GOAT
West Babylon, NY
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Public Record
United States
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Joshua protests too much. The fathers public record: Charles A. Grutman...former immigration lawyer...shows that his licence in NY was suspended on 6/2/02 for 7 years. www.usdoj.gov/eoir/profcond/chart.htm On 12/11/01 he plead GUILTY of a FELONY for "stealing goventment money. http://72.14.209.104/search?q= cache:zLS8iVOOHloJ:www.usdoj.g ov/eoir/profcond/ImmediateSusp ensions/GrutmanCharlesAllen_Im mSuspension.pdf+Charles+A.+Gru tman+felony&hl=en&ct=c lnk&cd=1&gl=us Afterward, he was suspended from practicing law in Florida. Does that mean Evan is guilty? The court will decide soon enough based on the evidence and that too will be a matter of public record.
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anonymous
South Richmond Hill, NY
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The family is clearly troubled...people need guidance..people make mistakes...without the correct guidance people make mistakes..i'm not saying what he did was right, but i think its a cry for help...
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burned by the grutmans
Palm Bay, FL
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hopefully Charles will get another ankle bracelet to match the one he had in 2002
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burned by the grutmans
Palm Bay, FL
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Public Record wrote: Joshua protests too much. The fathers public record: Charles A. Grutman...former immigration lawyer...shows that his licence in NY was suspended on 6/2/02 for 7 years. www.usdoj.gov/eoir/profcond/chart.htm On 12/11/01 he plead GUILTY of a FELONY for "stealing goventment money. http://72.14.209.104/search?q= cache:zLS8iVOOHloJ:www.usdoj.g ov/eoir/profcond/ImmediateSusp ensions/GrutmanCharlesAllen_Im mSuspension.pdf+Charles+A.+Gru tman+felony&hl=en&ct=c lnk&cd=1&gl=us Afterward, he was suspended from practicing law in Florida. Does that mean Evan is guilty? The court will decide soon enough based on the evidence and that too will be a matter of public record. has there been any update
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burned
Windermere, FL
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Joshua Grutman wrote: Who the hell are you to make that claim? My mother is a teacher. My father is a former immigration lawyer. My older brother is a recruiter for IT firms. My youngest brother is a college senior and one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. I'm a real estate salesman and playwright. Evan has completed three years of college and is going back to finish his degree once he's found not guilty of this crime. Who the hell are you to make that baseless claim? Thugs and crooks? You have some nerve, and it's nice that Newsday will let you say that about us. check the latest postings
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Nadia Cohen
Purchase, NY
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Not comfortable discussing it here, but I emailed him and he said that if I could prove that he owed me anything, he'd pay me. What did he say to you?
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burned
Palm Bay, FL
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Nadia Cohen wrote: Not comfortable discussing it here, but I emailed him and he said that if I could prove that he owed me anything, he'd pay me. What did he say to you? you should xontact Naomi Goldstein at the Department of Justice, she is the attorney who help prosecute his father so she may work out of NEW YORK New York City --- 1st Dept. Hal R. Lieberman, Chief Counsel First Judicial Department Departmental Disciplinary Committee 41 Madison Ave., 39th Floor New York, NY 10010 She will be the most helpful to you
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burned
Palm Bay, FL
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Brian Grutman wrote: I was just alerted to this nonsense, and I'd like to know who's doing it please. Nadia, I told you to email me or call me with any reasonable proof of any money that I owe you and I'd pay it. I have clear records stating that you were compensated for all of your time and efforts, as we contracted prior to your working for me. Talking to a raving lunatic about me is not going to get you anywhere. I'm getting the impression that this is Alice Cortez, a disgruntled employee, an employee that I did not fire for incompetence, for finding her and her son sleeping in the office, for disloyalty, for atrocious hygeine, and for various acts by her son that compromised the business. You were there because Willie asked me for a favor, and that's the only reason. You are owed nothing, you were paid severance, and that's the end of this. Yes, my father was arrested, and he paid his debt to society, and to the government. Every cent was returned. My brother Evan is troubled, and is also paying his debt to society and paying compensation to anyone who was affected by his actions. You forgot to mention that my mother is crippled. Don't you want to take glee in that as well? On the other hand, I've made money for everyone I've ever worked with, tried to treat everyone I know with respect and dignity, even when it's undeserved, and gone personally bankrupt to keep my promises to my ex-employees. I have worked extremely hard throughout my career to do the best I could by my employees and candidates, and take great offense to anyone inferring otherwise, whether on a public board, to my face, or in a court of law. If this is indeed Alice, all I can say is that I'm sorry that you still harbor ill feelings towards me. You should realize, however hard it is to accept, that I did not put you in the situation that you're in. You were dismissed more than 6 years ago, it's more than time to move on now. This slandering of my family in the most inappropriate of places simply must stop. This harrassment of my other employees, who had no decision making abilities at all, and did what I told them to do also must stop immediately. Please get in touch with me directly to discuss your problems. Thanks. -Brian you say you did the best for your employees ets how to you explain this from Evan From: "Messer, Evan" <evan.messer@rcmt.com> Add sender to Contacts To: "lilone06450@yahoo.com " <lilone06450@yahoo.com> Do I know you? whether I do or not, let me set your facts straight... 1. It has been over 5 years since I worked for Brian. 2. Brian still owes my a lot of money (I am sure I will never see it) 3. While working for Brian I barely made enough money to cover my rent. 4. There are many reasons why I chose to stop working there but I do not believe that there were any criminal activities. If you feel that I have wronged you in any way, then I am sorry, but I will assure you of a few things, 1. I never broke any laws 2. I never deceived anyone 3. I made very little money working for pilot... That being said, who are you, and what have I done to you? Evan he clearly says you owe him money
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Nadia Cohen
Purchase, NY
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I've tried reaching Naomi Goldstein at the Department of Justice but they don't have her in their directory.
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burned
Palm Bay, FL
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Nadia Cohen wrote: I've tried reaching Naomi Goldstein at the Department of Justice but they don't have her in their directory. try the disciplanry department of the bar association or try getting the case against his father her name is on it and i believe it says what department she it with
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burned
Palm Bay, FL
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Nadia Cohen wrote: I've tried reaching Naomi Goldstein at the Department of Justice but they don't have her in their directory. you can get their number here http://www.nbtanet.org/public/discipline/inde...
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