Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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Oooo, a newly invented term - "manipulated family".
That's a fun one.
Who gets to define which families are manipulated, and which aren't?
If a "manipulation free family" is any married couple who are raising children biologically related to both parents, then that would mean that a huge percentage of the families in the population are "manipulated".
What do you propose to do with all of those miscreants? Strip away all marriage rights?
First, I guess single Moms or Dads would not be allowed to marry. Then, you would need to strip the marriage licenses from all adoptive parents, and every infertile couple.
Then every blended family would need to lose marriage rights. And then every gay couple would go, too.
That's a HUGE percentage of the population.
Don't you think they - and everyone who cares for them - might start complaining when you start this anti-family crusade?
My, my, my, look how your gay twirling skills took a simple fact and shifted it to idiotic assertions...

I simply stated the difference between a biological family (as evolution designed) and the manufactured attempt to equate a single gender (sterile) couple always missing one or more biological parents.

Please explain where that is incorrect in any way shape or form.
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That's why you're upset......because you are jealous that kids being raised by 2 parents of the Same-Sex get more love and attention than you did........I'm sorry that you came from a broken home.......but you aren't the only one and kids raised by a single parent can be just as happy and healthy as kids raised by 2 parents regardless of their make-up.
Children have neen known to turn on their SS parents in a very brutal way. Don't be surpriesed it can happen to you, I hope it won't but I have seen it first hand
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<quoted text>So you could not find a reasonable line of answers, last resort you piece of dung. Nice grade school tactic.
Ok Ok ... sh*t how's that you peice of dung ...
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Another day of AKP getting his ass handed to him. How fking embarasing is that, go fly your kite while you still can you nutsack
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Bad dog awards are being given out later today.
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Children have neen known to turn on their SS parents in a very brutal way. Don't be surpriesed it can happen to you, I hope it won't but I have seen it first hand
Was it your right hand?

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Well, technically, you are right, god didn't clone Adam. Neither god nor Adam existed. How can an adult believe that Garden of Eden story? Do you believe Santa lives at the North Pole?
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Because you don't understand what DNA is.
I see, you understand DNA. You can comprehend that EACH cell's DNA is a mass of numbers that's 6' tall and is billions of numbers long. You get that.

Do you understand the humans did NOT invent DNA?? DO you understand that we merely discovered it, then called it deoxyribonucleic acid and then shortened it to DNA for morons like you?

Do you understand that science is in it's infant years regarding DNA?

Do you understand that God invented DNA & everything else?

If you're gonna tell me that God doesn't exist, then where did the super-complex DNA come from? Try.

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lol .. I'd love to fuck a Redneck and be a gay homo.
Keep shoppin! There's a sweet lil teenage redneck out there for you...

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I see, you understand DNA. You can comprehend that EACH cell's DNA is a mass of numbers that's 6' tall and is billions of numbers long. You get that.
Do you understand the humans did NOT invent DNA?? DO you understand that we merely discovered it, then called it deoxyribonucleic acid and then shortened it to DNA for morons like you?
Do you understand that science is in it's infant years regarding DNA?
Do you understand that God invented DNA & everything else?
If you're gonna tell me that God doesn't exist, then where did the super-complex DNA come from? Try.
DNA organisms probably developed from RNA organisms, which in turn developed from something else. What that "something else" might be is unknown, and may never be known. The descendants have pretty much taken over the biosphere and there isn't much left of earlier forms to be able to tell. It is virtually certain that scientists will be able to create some sort of life within the next hundred years or so. That will give some useful clues as to how it might have happened in the first place. There are three things on which scientists agree: it isn't necessary to suppose any sort of divine intervention to start things rolling; it would be a violation of the laws of physics if one did; and it is provably useless to suppose any such theory.
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Was it your right hand?
What is your question you second classer?
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I see, you understand DNA. You can comprehend that EACH cell's DNA is a mass of numbers that's 6' tall and is billions of numbers long. You get that.
Do you understand the humans did NOT invent DNA?? DO you understand that we merely discovered it, then called it deoxyribonucleic acid and then shortened it to DNA for morons like you?
Do you understand that science is in it's infant years regarding DNA?
Do you understand that God invented DNA & everything else?
If you're gonna tell me that God doesn't exist, then where did the super-complex DNA come from? Try.
So your imaginary friend invented DNA, eh? I'm SO sure you have proof for that ridiculous statement. Oh wait.... fundies don't need no stinking proof. I forgot. They'll believe ANYTHING, except for the facts.
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What is your question you second classer?
Did it interefere with your masturbatory fantasies, Miss Thing?

Second class? hahahahahah Is that some lame attempt at boosting your self esteem? Honey, if you need to feel better about yourself, start with getting honest about your little secret.
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Gay ‘marriage’ in high demand? Not according to the U.S. census

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October 5, 2011 - The pressure to redefine marriage to include same-sex couples keeps increasing. The impression is given that thousands upon thousands of gays and lesbians are unable to do the one thing they want to do more than anything else: That is, have a wedding.

As if to prove the point, the US Census Bureau announced that it would be counting same-sex households in the 2010 Census. In August the Bureau announced that there are nearly a million. I was surprised by the small number.

But this past week, they reduced their estimate of same sex couple households by nearly thirty percent. In fact, it turns out that there are fewer than 650,000. That’s about six tenths of one percent of total US households.

But an even greater shocker for me was the number of same-sex married households. Gay marriage is legal in six jurisdictions. In Massachusetts, it’s been the law since 2004. Same-sex couples can get married, for example, in Massachusetts and Washington, DC, and live anywhere because nobody’s enforcing DOMA anymore in view of litigation. And yet there are only 131,729 households headed by married same-sex couples. That’s two-tenths of one percent of married households. Talk about the tail wagging the dog!

This census data exposes the two biggest myths created about gay marriage.

The first is that there’s a huge demand for it. No way! In fact, there’s hardly any demand at all. Gay couples are not lined up at city halls hoping for a marriage license.

The second myth is the so-called “marriage equity” argument: That this is just another civil rights movement. Are you going to tell me that it was possible to fuel the civil rights movement with 646,000 couples, when only 131,000 had a real stake in it? It’s laughable.

I have never believed that gays wanted to marry. Their behavior by its very nature is too promiscuous. Gay relationships are for the most part sexually open rather than exclusive.

For us to redefine marriage, thereby altering thousands of years of human history, ignoring all of the benefits marriage offers to individuals, cultures, civilizations and — above all — children, for the sake of 646,000 same-sex households, only 131,000 of which are married, is madness.

Gays and lesbians don’t want marriage; they want their sexual choices affirmed as normal and moral. And that’s what’s behind the blacklisting, boycotting, and suing anybody who even questions homosexuality. They don’t want anyone telling them that how they live is morally problematic. Gays are actively trying to destroy marriage and will take away our freedom of speech and religion in order to do it.

Does this take the church off the hook? No. For years we have helped deconstruct marriage, winking at cohabitation and allowing easy divorce. We’ve allowed politicians to pass bad divorce laws and to loosen the moral standards surrounding marriage. Now it’s all coming back to haunt us. But our job is to rebuild marriage as a sacred institution and to stand our ground and defend it, come what may, from what appears to be a tiny minority.
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Keep shoppin! There's a sweet lil teenage redneck out there for you...
lol more gay humor ...
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Did it interefere with your masturbatory fantasies, Miss Thing?
Second class? hahahahahah Is that some lame attempt at boosting your self esteem? Honey, if you need to feel better about yourself, start with getting honest about your little secret.
lol more gay humor ...

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Sorry honey, the Regenrus Study shows that monogamous SS long term relationships are rare.
While lesbians tend to be more faithful, male gays are on the other end of the spectrum.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-murde...
The Regenrus Study has many flaws, that's certainly one of them.

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Children have neen known to turn on their SS parents in a very brutal way. Don't be surpriesed it can happen to you, I hope it won't but I have seen it first hand
It's been known to happen with straight kids too......hopefully it doesn't happen to you!!!

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No, Dear. You show no common sense, and science does not agree with you as the children raised by gay parents do just as well as those raised by straight parents.
The ONLY study that purports to show otherwise has been disgraced and debunked. You KNOW that, and yet you still pretend otherwise.
Try again.
Your argument is not relevant to the topic. There is NO LAW, anywhere in the country, that restricts a marriage licence ONLY to participants who will be raising children biologically related to both of them. And there are good reasons for that, as so many straight couples are raising children not biologically related to them both.
You need to show why the same guidelines are not equally applicable to gay couples, or give this line of "reasoning" up and find a more logical argument.
Your argument at this point is completely irrelevant.
Unless you can answer the fundamental questions as to how same sex marriage harms children, how having married parents is bad for kids, and how more secure families harm society, you can't make any headway.
Trying to create laws that require all children be raised by two biologically related parents is an exercise in futility, and has NO support in the population. And trying to apply such laws ONLY to gay couples is ridiculous, when it applies to so many more straight couples.
Not to mention the many many millions of children it would leave without legally married parents.
So, answer my questions.
Please site specific studies that equate gay parents with biological, including methodology and study participant info.

I have never asserted that marriage 'demands' children. Before you even get to that issue, you have to equate marriage to gay unions. The ONLY way you can do that is dumb down marriage to a CONTRACT between two people. That fits numerous relationships.

Just a note;

The Regnerus study has not been debunked. Because of gay hissy fits, it is being reviewed. I look forward to comparing it to any gay studies you provide.

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And you are upset because a gay couple can never provide a child one gender and one biological parent. And no other situation is more safe, loving and healthy.
Smile.
Again, that's a fallacy in your thought process!!!

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Since WHEN do you idiots care about Science? If you did, you would already know that the sexual orientation of parents is IRRELEVANT.
Hmmm, that's not what evolution has determined... Survival of the fittest has diverse gender biological parents as the perponderous propensity that last I checked. In fact, I have yet to hear of a SS couple birthing a biological child. Do you have some news to share?

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