Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,192

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#151387 Jul 22, 2012
Bruno wrote:
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What is your question you second classer?
Did it interefere with your masturbatory fantasies, Miss Thing?

Second class? hahahahahah Is that some lame attempt at boosting your self esteem? Honey, if you need to feel better about yourself, start with getting honest about your little secret.
Cool Hand Luke

Scranton, PA

#151388 Jul 22, 2012
Gay ‘marriage’ in high demand? Not according to the U.S. census

Wed Oct 05, 2011 14:39 EST
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October 5, 2011 - The pressure to redefine marriage to include same-sex couples keeps increasing. The impression is given that thousands upon thousands of gays and lesbians are unable to do the one thing they want to do more than anything else: That is, have a wedding.

As if to prove the point, the US Census Bureau announced that it would be counting same-sex households in the 2010 Census. In August the Bureau announced that there are nearly a million. I was surprised by the small number.

But this past week, they reduced their estimate of same sex couple households by nearly thirty percent. In fact, it turns out that there are fewer than 650,000. That’s about six tenths of one percent of total US households.

But an even greater shocker for me was the number of same-sex married households. Gay marriage is legal in six jurisdictions. In Massachusetts, it’s been the law since 2004. Same-sex couples can get married, for example, in Massachusetts and Washington, DC, and live anywhere because nobody’s enforcing DOMA anymore in view of litigation. And yet there are only 131,729 households headed by married same-sex couples. That’s two-tenths of one percent of married households. Talk about the tail wagging the dog!

This census data exposes the two biggest myths created about gay marriage.

The first is that there’s a huge demand for it. No way! In fact, there’s hardly any demand at all. Gay couples are not lined up at city halls hoping for a marriage license.

The second myth is the so-called “marriage equity” argument: That this is just another civil rights movement. Are you going to tell me that it was possible to fuel the civil rights movement with 646,000 couples, when only 131,000 had a real stake in it? It’s laughable.

I have never believed that gays wanted to marry. Their behavior by its very nature is too promiscuous. Gay relationships are for the most part sexually open rather than exclusive.

For us to redefine marriage, thereby altering thousands of years of human history, ignoring all of the benefits marriage offers to individuals, cultures, civilizations and — above all — children, for the sake of 646,000 same-sex households, only 131,000 of which are married, is madness.

Gays and lesbians don’t want marriage; they want their sexual choices affirmed as normal and moral. And that’s what’s behind the blacklisting, boycotting, and suing anybody who even questions homosexuality. They don’t want anyone telling them that how they live is morally problematic. Gays are actively trying to destroy marriage and will take away our freedom of speech and religion in order to do it.

Does this take the church off the hook? No. For years we have helped deconstruct marriage, winking at cohabitation and allowing easy divorce. We’ve allowed politicians to pass bad divorce laws and to loosen the moral standards surrounding marriage. Now it’s all coming back to haunt us. But our job is to rebuild marriage as a sacred institution and to stand our ground and defend it, come what may, from what appears to be a tiny minority.
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#151391 Jul 22, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Keep shoppin! There's a sweet lil teenage redneck out there for you...
lol more gay humor ...
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#151392 Jul 22, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
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Did it interefere with your masturbatory fantasies, Miss Thing?
Second class? hahahahahah Is that some lame attempt at boosting your self esteem? Honey, if you need to feel better about yourself, start with getting honest about your little secret.
lol more gay humor ...

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#151393 Jul 22, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Sorry honey, the Regenrus Study shows that monogamous SS long term relationships are rare.
While lesbians tend to be more faithful, male gays are on the other end of the spectrum.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/sex-murde...
The Regenrus Study has many flaws, that's certainly one of them.

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#151394 Jul 22, 2012
Bruno wrote:
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Children have neen known to turn on their SS parents in a very brutal way. Don't be surpriesed it can happen to you, I hope it won't but I have seen it first hand
It's been known to happen with straight kids too......hopefully it doesn't happen to you!!!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#151395 Jul 22, 2012
Quest wrote:
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No, Dear. You show no common sense, and science does not agree with you as the children raised by gay parents do just as well as those raised by straight parents.
The ONLY study that purports to show otherwise has been disgraced and debunked. You KNOW that, and yet you still pretend otherwise.
Try again.
Your argument is not relevant to the topic. There is NO LAW, anywhere in the country, that restricts a marriage licence ONLY to participants who will be raising children biologically related to both of them. And there are good reasons for that, as so many straight couples are raising children not biologically related to them both.
You need to show why the same guidelines are not equally applicable to gay couples, or give this line of "reasoning" up and find a more logical argument.
Your argument at this point is completely irrelevant.
Unless you can answer the fundamental questions as to how same sex marriage harms children, how having married parents is bad for kids, and how more secure families harm society, you can't make any headway.
Trying to create laws that require all children be raised by two biologically related parents is an exercise in futility, and has NO support in the population. And trying to apply such laws ONLY to gay couples is ridiculous, when it applies to so many more straight couples.
Not to mention the many many millions of children it would leave without legally married parents.
So, answer my questions.
Please site specific studies that equate gay parents with biological, including methodology and study participant info.

I have never asserted that marriage 'demands' children. Before you even get to that issue, you have to equate marriage to gay unions. The ONLY way you can do that is dumb down marriage to a CONTRACT between two people. That fits numerous relationships.

Just a note;

The Regnerus study has not been debunked. Because of gay hissy fits, it is being reviewed. I look forward to comparing it to any gay studies you provide.

“IT'S TIME TO ELIMINATE”

Since: Mar 11

PROP 8 AND DOMA!!!

#151396 Jul 22, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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And you are upset because a gay couple can never provide a child one gender and one biological parent. And no other situation is more safe, loving and healthy.
Smile.
Again, that's a fallacy in your thought process!!!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#151397 Jul 22, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
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Since WHEN do you idiots care about Science? If you did, you would already know that the sexual orientation of parents is IRRELEVANT.
Hmmm, that's not what evolution has determined... Survival of the fittest has diverse gender biological parents as the perponderous propensity that last I checked. In fact, I have yet to hear of a SS couple birthing a biological child. Do you have some news to share?
Have you

Monrovia, CA

#151398 Jul 22, 2012
STIll HAVEN'T GROWN UP HAVE YOU?

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Atlanta, GA

#151399 Jul 22, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
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Since WHEN do you idiots care about Science? If you did, you would already know that the sexual orientation of parents is IRRELEVANT.
Science tells us that it's normal for men to have sex with women. You're telling is its normal for men to have sex with men.

You're in the schools teaching children this abomination -- and you have the nerve to come here and tell us anyone who disagrees with you is going against science?

Get it through your thick, stupid head your opinions and ideas are a product of LGBT talking points NOT scientific inquiry.

Science says if we allow gay males to donate blood we risk another pandemic.

What does that tell you about gay males, you stupid hick?
Slapoo AJ

Monrovia, CA

#151400 Jul 22, 2012
AJ YOUR MAKEING A BIGGER FOOL OUT OF YOURSELF THAN DOUGLAS TESSITOR AND THE REST OF THE GLENDORA, CALIFORNIA CITY COUNCIL DOES!

Let alone actually read a sign! Again, the sign alone isn't going to help. YOU DIDN'T READ THE SIGN BEFORE YOU STARTED POSTING YOUR 'DUNG' NO IDIOTS ALLOWED.

If either of you do end up finding a law or ordinance stating that the city is required to post a sign because you demand it on the comment section of the Glendora Patch, please let me know. WHAT EVER LOGIC YOUR TRYING TO USE AJ JUST ISN'T MAKING A DENT IN THE ISSUE RATHER IT'S EXPOSING THE DENT IN YOUR HEADS.

I'm tired of my neighbors parking in front of my house and would like to put up my own sign. TRY KEEP YOUR OUSE AND FRONT YARD CLEAN, INSTEAD OF LOOKING LIKE A DUMP.

Mrs. Green, your logic of using your past accidents and problems to support your arguments is not helping you. AJ IT'S A PROVEN FACT - YOU CAN'T CHANGE STUPID AS IN YOUr CASE OF BEING A COMPLETE IDIOT.

Instead of complaining about your misfortunes and expecting someone else to do something out of sympathy, maybe you should try using the knowledge you gained from the situations (if any) and use it to be (here's that word again) productive. SHE IS AJ, SHE HAVE PROVEN YOUR JUST A BIG IDIOT.

Just because you make a big hulabaloo every time something happens to you and the Glendora Patch or SGV Trib. TRY ACTING YOUR AGE AJ, THE FACTS ARE WHAT THEY ARE AND YOUR BEING A FOOL.

SGV Tribune picks it up, doesn't mean you've got the authority to go around demanding things. BACK OFF AJ, YOUR ACTING LIKE YOUR LORD AND MASTER DOUGLAS TESSITOR.

As for your constant problems with the city and the management of the Heritage Apts, it is true that the squeaky wheel gets the grease; but if it continues to squeak it gets replaced, or in this instance, asked to leave. YOU BROUGHT IT UP, WHY DON'T YOU PACK UP YOUR FILTH AND LEAVE NOW!

The management at the Heritage Apts kicked you out for a reason that you obviously can't see, but to everyone else reading here its pretty obvious. TAKE A PAGE OF ADVICE AND SHUT UP.

My question is why would you want to live where you're not wanted? SPEAKING OF NOT WANTED - AJ, FRED G. AND BILL C. YOUR TIME IS UP.

Why not move to San Dimas or La Verne where they have the 25mph signs posted and you can be happy as a clam. YOUR IGNORANCE IS SHOWING AGAIN!

Glendora, California City Council, Fools of the Foothills.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#151401 Jul 22, 2012
Bruno wrote:
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I'm the one who said you got your ass handed to you and don't you forget it, now go fly your kite little man ...
You say a lot of dumb shit.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#151402 Jul 22, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
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Bitch please...I grew up in a single-parent household. I don't need a computer to tell me a mother & father is best for a child. I know because I LIVED THROUGH IT. The divorce of my parents traumatized me as a child. I went through years of episodes & mental breakdowns. I was all fine & dandy until my parents broke up. I was fortunate to see my father once a week...most kids aren't as lucky. And I have seen more well-behaved kids in a mother & father family than in a single-parent household, just by observing my mom's friends & my own friends. And since kids of gay parents don't have any real mother & father-role models, I would expect the child to suffer to same fate.
You're a clueless idiot, but that doesn't mean everybody brought up in a non mom/dad home is.
thisGuy wrote:
Also I heard gay relationships don't last long either. The average gay relationship last 2 yrs.
How long does the average straight relationship last?
thisGuy wrote:
Don't tell me the type of parents don't affect the child, because I know from experience it DOES.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, as they say.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#151403 Jul 22, 2012
thisGuy wrote:
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Ugh. I hate it when gays always try to equate themselves with blacks it comes to civil rights. Interracial marriage & homosexual marriage areNOT the same. In a interracial marriage, there is one MAN & one WOMAN,
Not if it's a black man and a white man.
thisGuy wrote:
so they fulfill in creating human life & providing a stable environment for the child to grow up with morals & values---
Your mom and dad didn't provide a stable environment for you, now did they? It's character, not genitals that matter.
thisGuy wrote:
the man being the father, & the woman being the mother. It is a HETEROSEXUAL union. It doesn't matter if what skin color the husband & wife are, they still
In a gay marriage, neither partner can reproduce naturally, which makes it pretty much useless.
Only if your only goal is to spawn with your partner.
thisGuy wrote:
They have to really on a surrogate mother or a turkey baster. So the child grows up with without a mom or a dad. There is no such thing as a child with "2 moms" or "2 dads". In a female gay marriage, there is mother, a step-mother, & a father---preferable a sperm donar (that is never to be mentioned), & in male gay marriage, their is a father, a step-father, & a mother---preferable a surrogate mother---(which is also never to be brought up). That's why children of gays end up being depraved.
You just made that up.
thisGuy wrote:
That's why children of gays are twice as likely to be homosexuals.
Even if that were true, there would be nothing wrong with that.
thisGuy wrote:
That's why children of gays have more social & emotional problems than children raised with a mom & a dad. The same could be said for children raised in single-parent households.
interracial marriage = straight marriage
gay marriage != straight marriage
What part of that concept don't you queers understand?
No wonder your parents split up, they had to live with an a POS like you! I can imagine the custody fights. "No...you take him!"

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#151404 Jul 22, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
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Same sex marriage is the same kind of social engineering that gave us the gay baths. The baths were supposed to have social merit -- they were supposed to make society better. Gay activists told us if everyone would drop their homophobia and attend the baths the world would be a better place.
Young gay men from rural America who were still virgins believed this propaganda and flocked to San Francisco and Greenwich Village. Four-hundred and fifty thousand of them died because they believed this propaganda.
Same sex marriage is motivated by the same wrong-headed desperation: homosexuality is at odds with society and human nature; gays are trying to fix this with same sex marriage and any other hair-brained scheme they can come up with.
Traditional marriage is the right thing to do which is why it has existed in every culture we know of since the beginning of recorded history.
Actually, that's not true. What we consider "traditional" marriage is really quite modern. And even if what you said were true, murder has existed in in every culture we know of since the beginning of recorded history. Doesn't mean it's a good thing.
Prof Marvel wrote:
Same sex hasn't.
Neither has the internet. So what?
Prof Marvel wrote:
The simple fact is, as seen with bath house culture, homosexuality -- when allowed to run wild -- is a public menace.
That's allany one with sense need know about same sex marriage.
Well, it's clear you have no sense.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#151405 Jul 22, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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Never said it did. I was referring to the health of children in a manipulated 'family'.
However, this would be an example of Constitutional right to marriage, from Loving vs Virginia;
"Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival...."
Here I connected the health of children and it's bearing on marriage in one fell sentence.
Smile.
Only in your dreams.
We have a right to marry. You don't have to be able to reproduce.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#151406 Jul 22, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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You fail so often in your quest for reality...
Sorry, but common sense, evolution, and science all agree with my assertion. Only gay 'gay studies' assert otherwise. And those have been debunked and disgraced.
Then you not only change the question, but then try to assert a single question as valid!
Why is that necessary?
I simply affirm some basic reality;
-Survival of the fittest determined a biological father and mother as best for a child.
You just made that up.
KiMare wrote:
-A gay union condemns a child to one gender and only one biological parent at the most. A devastating deprivation by all measures.
Again, just something you made up.
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#151407 Jul 22, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
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It's been known to happen with straight kids too......hopefully it doesn't happen to you!!!
Are you saying your kids are gay ??? see what I'm saying it didn't take long to rub off did it?
Bruno

Westminster, CA

#151408 Jul 22, 2012
akpilot wrote:
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You say a lot of dumb shit.
Because that is all you understand you dumb shit

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