congratulations Maine!

another victory for the moral majority of this country.

Gloat all you want Patty, marriage equality is still the law in a number of states, other states will join those and eventually gay people will be marrying in all fifty states, in the District of Columbia, and they will all be recognized by state and federal governments.

YELLODOG wrote:

another victory for the moral majority of this country.

ACLU-Tom wrote:

Gloat all you want Patty, marriage equality is still the law in a number of states, other states will join those and eventually gay people will be marrying in all fifty states, in the District of Columbia, and they will all be recognized by state and federal governments.
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WOW it didnt take you long to hop aboard another one did it.
gloat? if you mean be happy, then YES i am happy....
because it means people still hold on to MORALITY.
and i wouldn't count my chickens before they hatch on that tom
you might just be surprised...

ACLU-Tom wrote:

Gloat all you want Patty, marriage equality is still the law in a number of states, other states will join those and eventually gay people will be marrying in all fifty states, in the District of Columbia, and they will all be recognized by state and federal governments.
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P.S. just curious do you just sit and look for my name
so you can follow me? chaos just said in a previous post
that she would continue to follow me.... i think it might
just be that you guys WANT to hear what i have to say.

Considering this is an issue that I'm concerned about, commenting on it is my prerogative.

Nobody should be gloating or happy when other citizen's rights are able to be voted away.

Civil rights always win out against hatred and bigotry, even for gay people.

YELLODOG wrote:

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WOW it didnt take you long to hop aboard another one did it.
gloat? if you mean be happy, then YES i am happy....
because it means people still hold on to MORALITY.
and i wouldn't count my chickens before they hatch on that tom
you might just be surprised...

I saw the thread title, that's what drew me here.

YELLODOG wrote:

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P.S. just curious do you just sit and look for my name
so you can follow me? chaos just said in a previous post
that she would continue to follow me.... i think it might
just be that you guys WANT to hear what i have to say.

ACLU-Tom wrote:

Considering this is an issue that I'm concerned about, commenting on it is my prerogative.
Nobody should be gloating or happy when other citizen's rights are able to be voted away.
Civil rights always win out against hatred and bigotry, even for gay people.
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i agree CIVIL rights are indeed important,but i dont think the constitution
specifically mentions that same sex marriage is a civil
right.

and we do live in a DEMOCRACY which means people are intitled to VOTE on any issue that is placed upon a ballot.

and thus the MAJORITY voted for TRADITONAL and AGAINST same sex marriage. OUR constitution says, WE THE PEOPLE OF THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE.... so if the people vote then the people speak and that is what this country has always done.

im happy it went in the moral direction.

YELLODOG wrote:

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WOW it didnt take you long to hop aboard another one did it.
gloat? if you mean be happy, then YES i am happy....
because it means people still hold on to MORALITY.
and i wouldn't count my chickens before they hatch on that tom
you might just be surprised...

just a question. is it more, or less immoral to sleep with someone when they are not your spouse, in a heterosexual relationship? if homosexuality is more immoral, please quote scripture and verse where it says it is more so. if the scripture doesn't rank the immorality, why do you chose to obsess over this one particular immorality? because you and your ilk seem to be absolutely compulsively obsessed with the ickiness of it all.

See, it's bible thumpers like the starter of this post that make America run like sandpaper. I do not lack Christian faith, but I do believe that people everywhere have the right to be in love, the right to be together, and the right to get married. No matter if its same sex or different sex. Why should you people care about the choices they make? In the end it's them that has to pay for THEIR sins, not you. They are the ones that have to stand before God, not you. So let them do what they want, it's not hurting you any in the least. Another point, how many people now days have children out of wedlock? How many people are not married yet they are having sex and living together? One sin is no worse than the other, they are all equal in Gods eyes. Matter of factly, if you so happen to take a ketchup packet from your local McDonalds without their permission and walk out in the street and murder someone, they are no different in his eyes. So why dont you think about that before you go judging Gays. I mean since your such a good Christian and all, by judging people.

YELLODOG wrote:

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i agree CIVIL rights are indeed important,but i dont think the constitution
specifically mentions that same sex marriage is a civil
right.
and we do live in a DEMOCRACY which means people are intitled to VOTE on any issue that is placed upon a ballot.
and thus the MAJORITY voted for TRADITONAL and AGAINST same sex marriage. OUR constitution says, WE THE PEOPLE OF THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE.... so if the people vote then the people speak and that is what this country has always done.
im happy it went in the moral direction.

seems to me that you should just "meet-up" with these gay dudes and show them a "good time". the way you all fuss and fight on here, i bet it would be one hot "making out" session. when it was all over, you would have changed their way of thinking and perhaps saved them from hell besides. i know the thought of it probably sounds pretty disgusting to you (to me as well actually), but just do it for the sake of humanity.

haha wrote:

See, it's bible thumpers like the starter of this post that make America run like sandpaper. I do not lack Christian faith, but I do believe that people everywhere have the right to be in love, the right to be together, and the right to get married. No matter if its same sex or different sex. Why should you people care about the choices they make? In the end it's them that has to pay for THEIR sins, not you. They are the ones that have to stand before God, not you. So let them do what they want, it's not hurting you any in the least. Another point, how many people now days have children out of wedlock? How many people are not married yet they are having sex and living together? One sin is no worse than the other, they are all equal in Gods eyes. Matter of factly, if you so happen to take a ketchup packet from your local McDonalds without their permission and walk out in the street and murder someone, they are no different in his eyes. So why dont you think about that before you go judging Gays. I mean since your such a good Christian and all, by judging people.

so let me make sure i understand you correctly - you are saying that stealing a pack of ketchup at mcdonalds, or being gay is the same in the eyes of God as murder is??? dude!!!!

niagakorg wrote:

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just a question. is it more, or less immoral to sleep with someone when they are not your spouse, in a heterosexual relationship? if homosexuality is more immoral, please quote scripture and verse where it says it is more so. if the scripture doesn't rank the immorality, why do you chose to obsess over this one particular immorality? because you and your ilk seem to be absolutely compulsively obsessed with the ickiness of it all.

ABSOLULTLY NOT. sin is sin. GOD does not distinguish between sins
adultry is just as immoral as homosexuality is. its wrong
and if adultry was the topic of disscussion i would be the first to
say, that is immoral.

haha wrote:

See, it's bible thumpers like the starter of this post that make America run like sandpaper. I do not lack Christian faith, but I do believe that people everywhere have the right to be in love, the right to be together, and the right to get married. No matter if its same sex or different sex. Why should you people care about the choices they make? In the end it's them that has to pay for THEIR sins, not you. They are the ones that have to stand before God, not you. So let them do what they want, it's not hurting you any in the least. Another point, how many people now days have children out of wedlock? How many people are not married yet they are having sex and living together? One sin is no worse than the other, they are all equal in Gods eyes. Matter of factly, if you so happen to take a ketchup packet from your local McDonalds without their permission and walk out in the street and murder someone, they are no different in his eyes. So why dont you think about that before you go judging Gays. I mean since your such a good Christian and all, by judging people.

your logic is flawed simply because if everyone had the RIGHT to be in love no matter what, or with who, then pedifiles could use that same reasoning.... people who are abused by a spouse and stay in the relationship because they THINK that is part of love.
older people saying they are IN LOVE with minors.
how about someone saying they are IN LOVE with an animal so therefore they should have the right to mate with that animal and marry it if they want to.

sorry but GOD who created all, and laid out the plan of man and woman......says what is morally acceptable in the eyes of GOD and that is the bottom line.

its simple wrote:

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seems to me that you should just "meet-up" with these gay dudes and show them a "good time". the way you all fuss and fight on here, i bet it would be one hot "making out" session. when it was all over, you would have changed their way of thinking and perhaps saved them from hell besides. i know the thought of it probably sounds pretty disgusting to you (to me as well actually), but just do it for the sake of humanity.

I am a LADY. and i am a CHRISTIAN. i have no intention of giving way to that which is damaging and distruction.

when you do right, you do no wrong.

good motto to live by don't you think?

its simple wrote:

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so let me make sure i understand you correctly - you are saying that stealing a pack of ketchup at mcdonalds, or being gay is the same in the eyes of God as murder is??? dude!!!!

absolutely. sin is sin. there is no big sin and little sin in the eyes of GOD. because there is right and there is wrong.
truth and lie.

Equal treatment under law is guaranteed in the US Constitution.

Which of your civil rights do you want people to vote on Patty? The real point is that no vote should be taken which results in the stripping of rights from citizens.

YELLODOG wrote:

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i agree CIVIL rights are indeed important,but i dont think the constitution
specifically mentions that same sex marriage is a civil
right.
and we do live in a DEMOCRACY which means people are intitled to VOTE on any issue that is placed upon a ballot.
and thus the MAJORITY voted for TRADITONAL and AGAINST same sex marriage. OUR constitution says, WE THE PEOPLE OF THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE.... so if the people vote then the people speak and that is what this country has always done.
im happy it went in the moral direction.

ACLU-Tom wrote:

Equal treatment under law is guaranteed in the US Constitution.
Which of your civil rights do you want people to vote on Patty? The real point is that no vote should be taken which results in the stripping of rights from citizens.
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and everyone should be TREATED fairly.
what does that have to do with the INSTITUTION of HOLY matrimony?
marriage has always been between a MAN and a WOMAN this push to change it has only come about over the past 20 yrs ....
and issues are voted on all the time ...

ACLU-Tom wrote:

Equal treatment under law is guaranteed in the US Constitution.
Which of your civil rights do you want people to vote on Patty? The real point is that no vote should be taken which results in the stripping of rights from citizens.
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do you think pot should be legalized? some folks think
they should have the RIGHT to do drugs...

Holy matrimony is a church function, civil marriage isn't.

YELLODOG wrote:

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and everyone should be TREATED fairly.
what does that have to do with the INSTITUTION of HOLY matrimony?
marriage has always been between a MAN and a WOMAN this push to change it has only come about over the past 20 yrs ....
and issues are voted on all the time ...

ACLU-Tom wrote:

Holy matrimony is a church function, civil marriage isn't.
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A "chruch function?" Holy Matrimony is the joining of a man and a woman in marriage.