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MrMontana
Mescalero, NM
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Give him a renewed investigation. The man lost his son, can you blame him for trying to get the truth.
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Since: Dec 09
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I agree. It's time for the RPD to step up to the plate and re-open this case and put the father's mind at ease.
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Repeat
Ruidoso, NM
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The case was reviewed by the attorney generals office and they found that the RPD did in fact make some mistakes. They also found that it was an accidental shooting committed by Davis Warner himself. Yep, he shot himself. Let go David, he's gone and no amount of investigating will bring him back. The coroners report said it all.
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Since: Mar 09
Berlin, Germany
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The facts in this case speak for themselves. Warner has more than just the right of a father who's son was killed - and I repeat - KILLED. The PD made "some mistakes"???? Helloooo??? Do you even know what you are talking about? They let suspects adjust their statements, they didn't really investigate about how many people where in that car, they didn't do anything to find the girl, that was present when the boy was shot, they didn't do a proper crime scene investigation... etc. Now, leave us alone with this "let go" crap - would you "let go" if your kid had been killed? Mr. Warner has every right to demonstrate his opinion. And the mentioned shop owner has disqualified herself several times - re-read the threads and find the posts. So, let's sum it up: in Ruidoso a life isn't worth much, right? In Ruidoso the truth isn't worth much, right? In Ruidoso people get away with murder just because a PD willingly or unwillingly won't do a proper job, right? Is this what you are telling us "Repeat"? I wonder if ex-chief Born can stand his own face in the mirror... I wonder if the involved LE staff can look into their kids' eyes. A young man has been robbed and shot and a PD screwed up the investigation, a court does everything to silence the father.... clap, clap, clap... BRAVO ... you worry about tourists and the racino but you won't give a s...mile for a dead boy and the fact the truth about it is covered up? You are very lucky it isn't one of your loved ones that's 6 ft under.
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Repeat
Ruidoso, NM
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Now Hillbilly, I understand there are deep feelings about the boys death but the evidence, how ever sparse or tainted, remains the same. The testimony of those involved coupled with the autopsy report clearly showed accidental, self administered gun shot. Search for the truth on this one, not what you want to see.
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Since: Dec 09
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Repeat wrote: Now Hillbilly, I understand there are deep feelings about the boys death but the evidence, how ever sparse or tainted, remains the same. The testimony of those involved coupled with the autopsy report clearly showed accidental, self administered gun shot. Search for the truth on this one, not what you want to see. I don't know if this case has been reviewed by an independent forensic investigator. But if the evidence has been reviewed by only government paid employees I would say that this, in itself, does not a case close. I may be jaded but having been involved in the judicial system for such a long time I can assure you that "truth" is not part and parcel of the process. THIS is Lincoln County, New Mexico. We didn't even get electricity into this area until the 50's and "justice" is still light years away. And the father IS more than aware of that factor. So for his peace of mind independent forensic investigators, if not having already been involved, should be brought in.
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Anon
Hobbs, NM
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Kontiki777 wrote: I agree. It's time for the RPD to step up to the plate and re-open this case and put the father's mind at ease. The case HAS been re-opened and reinvestigated... 3 times. Not just by RPD, but by NMSP and other agencies. They all came to the same conclusion.
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Since: Dec 09
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Anon wrote: <quoted text> The case HAS been re-opened and reinvestigated... 3 times. Not just by RPD, but by NMSP and other agencies. They all came to the same conclusion. Actually, I didn't refer to a NM state or federal agency, but an independent forensic investigator. Though I do trust & highly regard the investigators with NMSP, especially John Barnes. Sad situation for all parties.
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Since: Mar 09
Berlin, Germany
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Repeat wrote: Now Hillbilly, I understand there are deep feelings about the boys death but the evidence, how ever sparse or tainted, remains the same. The testimony of those involved coupled with the autopsy report clearly showed accidental, self administered gun shot. Search for the truth on this one, not what you want to see. When what the PD presented was right I'd agree with you - but it was NOT right so NO, I cannot agree with you. The "evidence" is more than doubtful - there is even more evidence but nobody wants to look into it or even acknowledge it although it IS there. You are right on your last sentence - search for the truth on this one, not what you want to see (or what the PD wants the public to see). It's still a very sad story and it is a crying shame. I repeat, Repeat - be glad it wasn't one of your family members or friends that was robbed and killed. And I am not sarcastic or in any way intending to be rude - I'm just so disgusted about the murder cases that go unsolved or called suicide in Lincoln County ... like the guy that allegedly shot himself three times in the back of the head - or like the Warner boy.
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Since: Mar 09
Berlin, Germany
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Anon wrote: <quoted text> The case HAS been re-opened and reinvestigated... 3 times. Not just by RPD, but by NMSP and other agencies. They all came to the same conclusion. They came to the same conclusion? They did not - they stated there were major mistakes made by RPD - and yes, you are right, they want the case closed - go figure...
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IAMI
Ruidoso, NM
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Can someone tell me who the girl in the car was that went into the military
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Wow
Ruidoso, NM
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This will see it's day in court and the tapes of the questioning will become public and the fact that the police didn't run a background on the gun for 6 months and then when the father kept pushing they finally did run the gun ...... with the wrong serial number. When that little over site was caught they ran it again with the wrong # again. Why doesn't the Ruidoso Police Department want anyone to know who was the owner of the gun? The driver of the car made a statement that he never left his house without his gun. Was it his gun? Who is his mother and why doesn't Ruidoso Police department want the driver of the car to come under suspicion in a suspicious case. Where indeed is the other witness that was in the back seat with the victim and why did they let her run without questioning her about the events? Why did they tell her family not to talk to anyone about this case? If the truth is what you want, why silence witnesses? Where is the money that the deceased man won at the casino earlier that night? How come that police didn't ask any questions about where the money went when the witnesses mentioned it? How come the police had the gun moved and then photographed it in the position it was moved to as if that was the original location of the gun when they arrived? I think a member of the police department is posting here because they screwed the pooch and they don't want any public discussion of their investigation which goes past sloppy and is looking more and more criminal. Why did the Village of Ruidoso interview outside candidates for the position of Chief of Police and then go ahead and hire in house? Could there be more then one office in the Ruidoso Village government hiding their dirt?
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Eban
Ruidoso, NM
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IAMI wrote: Can someone tell me who the girl in the car was that went into the military You mean the killer?
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lookie
Ruidoso, NM
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Eban wrote: <quoted text> You mean the killer? Thank you, well stated!
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Anon
Hobbs, NM
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Bavarian Hillbilly wrote: <quoted text> They came to the same conclusion? They did not - they stated there were major mistakes made by RPD - and yes, you are right, they want the case closed - go figure... They may have stated mistakes were made, but all investigations indicated that the shooting was accidental in nature. RPD's, first and second. NMSP's. The Atty Generals...
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IAMI
Ruidoso, NM
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Eban wrote: <quoted text> You mean the killer? I'll take it you don't know, simply STFU then Thanks
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Ha ha ha
Ruidoso, NM
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Anon wrote: <quoted text> They may have stated mistakes were made, but all investigations indicated that the shooting was accidental in nature. RPD's, first and second. NMSP's. The Atty Generals... "Accidental in nature" is not the same as suicide but nice word smithing! "Some mistakes were made", yeah, some very important mistakes.
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Eban
Ruidoso, NM
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IAMI wrote: <quoted text> I'll take it you don't know, simply STFU then Thanks I was just clarifying. Are you asking about the killer that went in to the military? The female who shot Warner and then ran off? Is that who you want to know about?
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monkey business
Ruidoso, NM
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IAMI wrote: Can someone tell me who the girl in the car was that went into the military She was the driver. The backseat girl is the one that ran away and they made no effort to find her and get a statement from her. Now they have told her family not to talk to anyone. This is the same department which in 2002 was caught helping to cover up for two officers who lied on police reports and verbally and physically assaulted a young lady. This one is going to be even more embarrassing.
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Savanna
Ruidoso, NM
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