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#139
May 16, 2008
 
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The white racist on this blog are closet racist I bet if you seen a black man on the street you would not be so brave so thank GOD you can hide and talk ****
Sup L? How bout yo real name poke chop? Tuff guy?

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#140
May 16, 2008
 
You are way off again. I already supported that with charts that went over your head but unfortunately you can't back yours up with a link to anything supporting your claims. Wonder why?
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My numbers are not “way off” you are reading my post, those charts, or both wrong. The charts that you posted state the percentage of the total prison population by race, i.e. if there are 100 prisoners in Alaska and 60% are black that means that there are 60 black inmates in Alaska. Meanwhile, according to the Department of Justice (doj.gov) report, doj 06stats.pdf, on December 31, 2006 (latest complete stats):
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Number of sentenced prisoners under State or Federal jurisdiction by gender, race, and Hispanic origin, 2006 sentenced to more than a year in a state or federal penitentiary.
There were 534,200 black males sentenced to a more than 1 year and 28,600 black females for a total of 562,800 Black non-hispanic Americans incarcerated in a state or federal penitentiary.
According to the Census bureau 2000, there were approx 36M Black non-hispanic Americans in the US (I'm sure that number is closer to 40M now)so 563K would represent 1.56% of the total Black American population.
My inflated estimate was intended to include those serving less than a year, those awaiting trial, serving sentences in local jails, on probation or otherwise involved in the judicial system.

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You are way off again. I already supported that with charts that went over your head but unfortunately you can't back yours up with a link to anything supporting your claims. Wonder why?
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Ok, Math one-oh-one for fatboy2

A few months back there were reports everywhere about how 1 in 100 Americans are now incarcerated and how we had the highest acknowledged incarcerated population in the world (I'm sure you can google it), Ok, stay with me fatboy2,

1 in 100 is what percent?

Slow... slow…, that's right, it's 1%. One percent of the American population is incarcerated.
OK keep up, it gets tricky here.

America's population is estimated to be approx 300M so 1% of 300M is...?
Keep 'er steady... don't blow... 3M you say? Good Job fatboy2!*claps enthusiastically*
So approx 1% or 3 million American citizens in our country have been incarcerated.

Now, according to your website 43% of the incarcerated are African Americans but you’ve read it as 43% of the African American population has been incarcerated.

There are approx 38 million African Americans in this country. Now if 43% of them were incarcerated that would be… come on… get your calculator out… I’ll get you started, 10% would be 3.8 million and so on…
38,000,000 X .43 =?

All together that would mean that 16.3 MILLION African Americans were incarcerated alone. And if they make up 43% of the prison population that would mean we had over 38 MILLION Americans incarcerated instead of 3 Million.

MATH is fundamental-not copy, paste, link.

Uhh and if you don't consider the Department of Justice (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/ abstract/p05.htm) and the FBI (www.fbi.gov) as legitimate sources then... well there's no where to go is there?
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May 16, 2008
 
All very good posts! However I do wish to ask, why it seems that if blacks account for less that 50% of the prison population,there seems to be so, very very much display of black criminals on the news? I dont just mean your bank robberies or 7-11 heists, I am talking about black on black crimes!!! Why does the media focus more upon the blacks and point out their problems, so much more than any other group in America?? After all, they are clearly in the minority right?
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Ok, Math one-oh-one for fatboy2
A few months back there were reports everywhere about how 1 in 100 Americans are now incarcerated and how we had the highest acknowledged incarcerated population in the world (I'm sure you can google it), Ok, stay with me fatboy2,
1 in 100 is what percent?
Slow... slow…, that's right, it's 1%. One percent of the American population is incarcerated.
OK keep up, it gets tricky here.
America's population is estimated to be approx 300M so 1% of 300M is...?
Keep 'er steady... don't blow... 3M you say? Good Job fatboy2!*claps enthusiastically*
So approx 1% or 3 million American citizens in our country have been incarcerated.
Now, according to your website 43% of the incarcerated are African Americans but you’ve read it as 43% of the African American population has been incarcerated.
There are approx 38 million African Americans in this country. Now if 43% of them were incarcerated that would be… come on… get your calculator out… I’ll get you started, 10% would be 3.8 million and so on…
38,000,000 X .43 =?
All together that would mean that 16.3 MILLION African Americans were incarcerated alone. And if they make up 43% of the prison population that would mean we had over 38 MILLION Americans incarcerated instead of 3 Million.
MATH is fundamental-not copy, paste, link.
Uhh and if you don't consider the Department of Justice (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/ abstract/p05.htm) and the FBI (www.fbi.gov) as legitimate sources then... well there's no where to go is there?
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#143
May 16, 2008
 
BTW, I give you credit for even typing all this....
You are plainly passionate in your views, and that is honorable!
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Oh give it a rest. There are no less than 200,000 post on this FORUM alone, about Barack Husein Obama.
We've talked about:
Obama's wife
His mother
His father
His stepfather
His white grandmother
His African grandmother
His sister
His cousins
His African grandfather
His upbringing
His school paper
His wife's school paper
His supporters
His fundraisers
His neighbors
His preacher
His preachers friends and associates
His preachers military service
His preachers house
His friends
His associates
His associate's associates
His Illinois Senate record
His US Senate record
His speeches (right down to the cadence they are delivered with)
His television interviews
His debate answers
His flag flare
His patriotism
His fundraising
His attire
His wife's attire
His level of self-worth
His childhood
His school years-middle-Jr. High, high, college
His early career
His old bosses
His affiliations
His finances
His mother's finances
His mothers occupation
His wife's family's finances
His home price
His wife's salary
His wife’s affiliations
His celebrity supporters
His political supporters
His bowling score
We've debated his appeal to:
Black Voters
White Voters
Hispanics Voters
Women Voters
Working Class Voters
Midwest Voters
East Coast Voters
Educated Voters
Less Educated voters
Middle Class Voters
Southern Voters
Older Voters
Younger Voters
white, less educated, older, lower middle class, southern women voters who belong to bowling leagues.
Every comment has been analyzed, dissected, interpreted and spun. We've talked about if he's electable, why he is electable, why he's not electable. We've talked about his race and his gender, his sexuality, his drug use and his smoking habits.
We've debated his stance on:
The War In Iraq
Rogue Nations
NAFTA
Unions
Abortion
The Economy
The Environment
Education
Reparations
Health Care
Crime
Israel
Hamas
The Constitution
Taxes
American Oil Dependency
The UN
Palestine
Iran
Terrorist
We've talked about his blood type...
Oh, wait, scratch the blood type thing.
As a matter of fact, the only thing that seems to be decidedly off limits when slinging mud at Obama is his WHITE GRANDFATHER.
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After reading these posts, I have never been less proud of my American brothers and sisters. Do we not have jobless families to think about, lonely soldiers to pray for, starving millions to feed, new technologies to discover, diseases to eradicate, and children to educate? Honestly - we have higher concerns to address than all the nonsense on this forum. Come on people! Americans are (supposed to be) better than this!
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#145
May 16, 2008
 
You must be new around here.
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After reading these posts, I have never been less proud of my American brothers and sisters. Do we not have jobless families to think about, lonely soldiers to pray for, starving millions to feed, new technologies to discover, diseases to eradicate, and children to educate? Honestly - we have higher concerns to address than all the nonsense on this forum. Come on people! Americans are (supposed to be) better than this!
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#146
May 16, 2008
 
If the publisher wants to sue then so be it. However it was in jest and even if it was not this will be a boon to Obama in the sympathy department. Obama has a very high I.Q. and he and Curious George have little in common other then both are mammals.

There are paralels to this kind of off color teasing. When Michael Steele was attempting to debate an opponent at a black college the students were handing out Oreo cookies in a contemptable fashion. This horrible act was never reported by Baltimore's ultra left, ultra failed liberal media.

Of all the people in the world who should be handing out Oreo cookies snidely these were the most naive. The Democratic Party in MD has failed horribly in the Balitmore City- a place it basically owns and treats as its own fiefdom. Look at the schools, the drugs, the murders, the 'families' of its inhabitants. No the Democrats have no business making any statements about anything but being contrite.

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Ahh...the joy of being able to call someone a 'racist' is starting to lose luster and impact due to the racially hypersensitive dolts replaying it like a broken record.

Racism, bigotry, and prejudice is part of the free speech everyone is for until there's something they don't like. This issue is about growing a thicker hide and not the magic Negro's supposed reaction to the T-shirt.
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#148
May 16, 2008
 
RACE wrote:
You must be new around here.
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Thanks for the greeting. Where do I go for the intro to cynical, mind-numbing, anger-spewing, cheap-shot making, race baiting, party loyalty commentary?
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#149
May 16, 2008
 
LOL,
That my friend is something you are just going to have to learn on your own....
Hint: If it has a reactionary headline, expect bashing.
Hint: If its about the weather, expect it to be bushes fault (and SFWMD)

Hint: If the article tells you the color of the persons socks but not their skin tone, they are black. But if there is a picture with the article they are white.

Too much more to list, have fun in the rabbit hole!!!

Oh, One final thing, watch out for Concerned one
America wrote:
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Thanks for the greeting. Where do I go for the intro to cynical, mind-numbing, anger-spewing, cheap-shot making, race baiting, party loyalty commentary?
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May 17, 2008
 

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WhatInTheHell has this got to do with anything in my post?
I love it, in a few minutes you'll be yelling about how black people are always bringing "slavery" into everything and how we're still complaining about "slavery". If by "unintelligent" you mean everything you are not-I'll take it.
I'd love to take the time to explain it to you but I know you are definitely incapable of higher level thought.
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#151
May 17, 2008
 
A German's point of view on Islam.

A man whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis 'he said,' but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace, and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectra of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam. The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.

It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. The hard quantifiable fact is that the 'peaceful majority', the 'silent majority', is cowed and extraneous.

Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points:

Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun. Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghanis, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts; the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, at the risk of offending, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands world wide, read this -think about it - and send it on.
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May 17, 2008
 
Have another FEW DRINKS

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#153
May 17, 2008
 
Let me help you with the math since you are way too slow. If there are in fact 300,000,000 people and 12% are black that is 36,000,000 total African Americans. Then if 1% of citizens are incarcerated that equals 3,000,000 in prison and 44% are black that equals 1,320,000 black people in prison. That is roughly 1 in every 36 or around 27% of African Americans in prison. I could look at the charts and know you were way off without doing all the math but this just shows how far off you really are.
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Ok, Math one-oh-one for fatboy2
A few months back there were reports everywhere about how 1 in 100 Americans are now incarcerated and how we had the highest acknowledged incarcerated population in the world (I'm sure you can google it), Ok, stay with me fatboy2,
1 in 100 is what percent?
Slow... slow…, that's right, it's 1%. One percent of the American population is incarcerated.
OK keep up, it gets tricky here.
America's population is estimated to be approx 300M so 1% of 300M is...?
Keep 'er steady... don't blow... 3M you say? Good Job fatboy2!*claps enthusiastically*
So approx 1% or 3 million American citizens in our country have been incarcerated.
Now, according to your website 43% of the incarcerated are African Americans but you’ve read it as 43% of the African American population has been incarcerated.
There are approx 38 million African Americans in this country. Now if 43% of them were incarcerated that would be… come on… get your calculator out… I’ll get you started, 10% would be 3.8 million and so on…
38,000,000 X .43 =?
All together that would mean that 16.3 MILLION African Americans were incarcerated alone. And if they make up 43% of the prison population that would mean we had over 38 MILLION Americans incarcerated instead of 3 Million.
MATH is fundamental-not copy, paste, link.
Uhh and if you don't consider the Department of Justice (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/ abstract/p05.htm) and the FBI (www.fbi.gov) as legitimate sources then... well there's no where to go is there?

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May 17, 2008
 
Except all of his so called facts are made up and his math skills are lacking
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All very good posts! However I do wish to ask, why it seems that if blacks account for less that 50% of the prison population,there seems to be so, very very much display of black criminals on the news? I dont just mean your bank robberies or 7-11 heists, I am talking about black on black crimes!!! Why does the media focus more upon the blacks and point out their problems, so much more than any other group in America?? After all, they are clearly in the minority right?
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A more fitting comparison for Obama would be with the Anti-Christ. His "story" is incredibly similar to the whole Jerry Jenkins and Tim LaHaye series of "Left Behind" books. The guy comes from nowhere saying nothing but slogans, pretends to be Christian to win support. advocates One World vision and has the media eating out of his hands. Incredibly prognostic considering it was written 13 years ago.

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May 17, 2008
 
Hahaha now my math skills are slipping
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Let me help you with the math since you are way too slow. If there are in fact 300,000,000 people and 12% are black that is 36,000,000 total African Americans. Then if 1% of citizens are incarcerated that equals 3,000,000 in prison and 44% are black that equals 1,320,000 black people in prison. That is roughly 1 in every 36 or around 27% of African Americans in prison. I could look at the charts and know you were way off without doing all the math but this just shows how far off you really are.
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#157
May 17, 2008
 
Oh yes the actual percentage of blacks in prison is 3.7% so you were right, of course if we compare that to whites that is almost 7 times higher than for whites and quite a bit lower than hispanics.

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fatboy2 wrote:
Except all of his so called facts are made up and his math skills are lacking
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Tell it to the DOJ fatboy2
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/p06.pdf
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