Assistant fire chief is charged in hit-run

san_pedro_local wrote:

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sorry to hear of your loss, condolences

Thakyou. I will keep what you said in mind and not let a couple of bad apples change the way I feel about fire fighters.

:)

Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone!

SP Mom wrote:

The Francos are an upstanding family in San Pedro. Robert's rise to the top of LAFD had nothing to do with affirmative action. To you parents: if it was your child in trouble, might you have made the same wrong decision in the heat of the moment? Give that some honest thought... Reality check: no one was injured here, no pedestrians or other motorists were involved. Give the Francos a break, they followed their gut instinct which may have been unwise in retrospect.

teach your children well,and in the end don't be a codependent. robert you wrecked
your career for a son who took a major hit to his future anywhichway!? love or guilt.

burned toste wrote:

you all are jealous becuase LAFD is a great gig. the firefighters are pretty cool. you all are losers who have children you canty afford. now go raise some more security gards.

I can see you were educated in the Ca. school systen. Can't spell worth a damn.

san_pedro_local wrote:

from, Rockard Delgadillo:
"He wrote a personal check to the city Monday to cover the cost of the repairs."
"Like any husband, I love my family and have tried to keep them out of the public eye," he said. "But as an elected official, I am accountable to the public, and I realize I should have spoken up earlier. That was a mistake."
This way worse than anything he is accusing the Francos of doing!

No, you'd lie even if the truth sounded better, the truth only comes out when you get caught. That's what passes for integrity today!!

You are Soooo Right. A silver badge(firefighter) would have been suspended right after a quick "witch hunting" hearing. If only the taxpayer knew how much they are getting screwed..Just like getting "brand New Chiefs" for the harbor and the airport(A job for any Captain!) As long as the Fire commission keep listening to the "Top Heavy" department Heads, it will remain as you say "Standard"!!

la fireman wrote:

Standard! The City won't step up and do what is right...they fear lawsuits from all. Including the Franco's. Why is this Chief offduty with an injury suffered miraculously, covered. Hmmmm, the taxpayer's taking it in the shorts again. Sound familiar, Mr. Pierce or what's her name? If this was a guy with a silver badge, would this have been handled differently?

[QUOTE who="... If only the taxpayer knew how much they are getting screwed..Just like getting "brand New Chiefs" for the harbor and the airport(A job for any Captain!) As long as the Fire commission keep listening to the "Top Heavy" department Heads, it will remain as you say "Standard"!!
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so, what your saying is that captains can now be in charge of the multiple fire stations in the harbor and airport area just like chiefs? when did this happen?

how exactly are tax payers as you say "getting screwed" by having new chief positions for the harbor and airport? I would think in a post 9/11 world this would be a good thing?

LAFD needs reform:
http://www.firecareers.com/viewmessages.cfm...

san_pedro_local wrote:

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so, what your saying is that captains can now be in charge of the multiple fire stations in the harbor and airport area just like chiefs? when did this happen?
how exactly are tax payers as you say "getting screwed" by having new chief positions for the harbor and airport? I would think in a post 9/11 world this would be a good thing?

Don't be a moron and take things out of context. You don't have a clue, because you are not a firefighter. I know you are not, otherwise my statement would make sense.

Just like people, who critique the way a waiter renders service or a flight attendant/police officer performs a duty. People have opinions about averything, even when they don't have a clue of what they are talking about.

Firefighters "need" direction and leadership, that is a fact. I have had the honor, to meet and work under Chief Officers whom are exceptional and fine people. It is the delegation of authority, from the Chief's that dictate policy has brought our organization to this impass. Not the lack of of knowledge.

We are talking about the people who live in the ivory tower downtown, whom draw a well payed salary, but don't take any risks to do what is best for the citizens, to deliver the best and most effective service. They have lost touch, with the reality of the job.

Rather, they tie the hands of those in the field by delegating their authority to lawyers, politicians, and civilians that include a Medical Director that are clueless to what we do and need to get accomplished. The corporate approach to problem solving does not work on the streets of Los Angeles.

Flipflop leadership on issues, depending on the political conditions at city hall, or the spin the media places on an issue has made a one time leader in the firefighting world, an example of what does not work.

No Sir, a Captain can't run several firestations. It would be a lack of a span in control. The fire department was developed, as a semi-millitaristic organizaation, post the civil war. It is a model that works well on the fireground.

But, in modern times, many chiefs lack leadership and courage to do what is right, for the citizens or for the troops. Those that do...are well liked and celebrated people. They have honor and don't need a gold badge to show it. People naturally, approach these leaders for guidance on issues. The majority of firefighters are people of honor who risk life and limb daily.

The chief's who coward behind policy and delegate their authority, handed down to them over decades of a proud organization has been made impotent. They sit and look pretty for picture opportunities with the media, yet when something goes wrong, they look for a quick way to shift blame away from themselves.

The emergecny driving policies, backing into quarters, dispatch procedures and the everybody get's a ride to the ER are all policies, designed to serve city hall but not Angelinos. Next time you call 9-1-1 and have to wait for an ambulance, because the dispatcher is talking to a drunk, or the ambulance is taking them to the ER, ask yourself were is the honor in that?

here's some direction: seek therapy for your issues about the size of your ears.

la fireman wrote:

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Don't be a moron and take things out of context.

you call yourself a fireman? I asked you a direct question and all you can come up with is an insult followed by drivel?

quote from"la fireman" "... If only the taxpayer knew how much they are getting screwed..Just like getting "brand New Chiefs" for the harbor and the airport(A job for any Captain!)"

btw, you still have not answered this question.

quote from"la fireman" "People have opinions about averything, even when they don't have a clue of what they are talking about...No Sir, a Captain can't run several firestations."

that was my point and why I posted the original question, so you see I do know something about the fire department and judging by your posts apparently more than you.

quote from"la fireman" "The chief's who coward...big snip....blah blah blah"

wow, you need help

quote from "la fireman" "The emergecny driving policies, backing into quarters...big snip (again)...Next time you call 9-1-1 and have to wait for an ambulance, because the dispatcher is talking to a drunk, or the ambulance is taking them to the ER, ask yourself were is the honor in that?"

you have absolutely no proof for your prejudice views of chiefs

quote from"la fireman" "talking to drunks..."

hehe, that's rich

Attention to detail?

You are quoting LA Fire"fighter" from Torrance...not LA fireman, Danville. So get your facts straight.

Talk to anyone on the fire dept who does not wear the gold badge...they will tell you all I have said is true.

As far fetched and ridiculous as it sounds, sadly it is a reality. Untill some VIP's loved one dies do to, the lack of common sense at the top, this will continue.

Sorry I hurt your feelings Mr. San Pedro. Most of the men I know who live there are not so sensible.

P.S. Franco should have been gone in November.

Yes, this is a good place to find info about the LAFD that they won't post on their own website http://www.firecareers.com/viewmessages.cfm...

la fireman wrote:

Attention to detail?
You are quoting LA Fire"fighter" from Torrance...not LA fireman, Danville. So get your facts straight.

yeah, I know. forum can't edit reply.

quote: "Talk to anyone on the fire dept who does not wear the gold badge...they will tell you all I have said is true."

you toss out some wild accusations without facts. if it were as you say the union u.f.l.a.c. would have done something about it, or the mayor, or fire commission

Again talk to a firefighter not the union/fire commission or the mayor whom are all politicians. If you talk to someone off the record, so there aren't retaliations, they may tell you what is real. Or talk to an ER nurse and ask them why do they treat people that are not true emergency patients?

If you believe these are wild accusations without facts, you have not sat in the Emergency Room full of people who can't be seen because a drunk said the magic phrase "chest pain", then they go to the front of the line.

I like my job and can't show my face on camera, due to retaliations. I am a worker not a policy maker. Policy makers have their priorities screwed up and forgot whom they swore an oath to.

I actually care about the city it's citizens and the fire department. It seems the only way some of my coworkers want to bring change is by bringing litigation against the F.D. I believe that this is not the way to bring change. I don't trust lawyers either.

My hope is that this forum bring attention to real problems and brings change. Problems larger than, serving dog food or perception of mistreatment.

If you are someone who cares and wants to get the best service...Ask questions, difficult questions;
Begin with why do we have experienced firefighters answering 9-1-1 calls who flip cards and can't use their judgement?(medical director)
Why do we take the same homeless people to the ER, sometimes once a day,every day?(frequent-flyers)
Why are seasoned paramedics trained to offer all a ride to the ER, even people who are just emotional?(protocol)
Why does the driving policy restrain the driver stop at all red lights?(obvious)

The answer to all these is the city does not want any liability, and Chiefs want to shift all blame away from themselves. There once was a day all chief's stood up for what was right, and stood behind their firefighters. Even if you did not like a chief you could respect his authority.

I am happy to do my duty. I do it proudly every day. I don't want to see our FD continue in the direction it is headed. Franco is grim example of one man, that speaks volumes, to the two faced image city hall makes public.

Empower Chief's and make them accountable!

la fireman wrote:

Again talk to a firefighter not the union/fire commission or the mayor whom are all politicians

you are so full of misinformation.

I'm not going to waste my time sighting every piece of nonsense you keep posting.

for example, you state "the union/fire commission...are all politicians."

totally not true.

the fire union is made up of firefighters representing firefighters they are not politicians

quote: "If you are someone who cares and wants to get the best service...Ask questions"

you haven't answered mine.

you have a poor attitude, misrepresent facts (lie) and I doubt you are a fireman

quote: "Franco is grim example of one man, that speaks volumes, to the two faced image city hall makes public."

you don't know what you're talking about.

I don't care what you think...I don't consider this a waste of time.

If there is a chance that someone with the means to change things reads this.

La fireman….San_Pedro _ Local…..must be a Chief ..he has his head where the sun doesn’t shine…..you my friend are right on !