Cooperstandard

Has anybody heard anything about cooper? are they going to kingsport or morristown ? should they sign up for the cheese line or what?

I got papers in the mail about them filing for bankruptcy. I am supposed to submit my claim for any money owed to me by them to be considered for payment. I guess since I was unjustly terminated I could say they owe me about 3 years back pay.

they may move over to the old kingsport press building

I am hearing maybe Greenville. This came from a couple of supervisors. Time will tell we can only wait and see. My concern is how many people will lose their jobs.

Why are they moving? Won't a move just add to their already mounting expenses?

Huh wrote:

Why are they moving? Won't a move just add to their already mounting expenses?

That is what I was wondering. Why spend a lot of money to move operations 25 miles to somewhere else? It makes no sense at all if you think about it.

do they ever do anything that makes freakin sense?

Is cooper going to pay their employees more money for the move? If they have to move farther away they should pay extra for all the money they are going to be saving.

no money hunny wrote:

Is cooper going to pay their employees more money for the move? If they have to move farther away they should pay extra for all the money they are going to be saving.

get real. they will layoff everyone an then hire people in the county they move to at a cheeper rate. the current employees better learn to use a computer for unemployeement like the rest of us. thanks pre. obama.

whaat wrote:

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get real. they will layoff everyone an then hire people in the county they move to at a cheeper rate. the current employees better learn to use a computer for unemployeement like the rest of us. thanks pre. obama.

Pre Obama means the Bush years so yes you are correct. Cooper hung themselves by putting idiots in management and lead positions and laying off experienced older workers for kids with their fingers still up their noses. Who really thinks you can teach a boy in a week what a man or woman has learned in 10 or 15 years?

It just really gets my goat the way corporations can run the business into the ground, file bankruptcy and keep right on keeping on never missing a beat. Yet, poor simple working man has to keep on slaving. If he files for bankruptcy he still has to pay off his debts. Did you know that your credit card company, if they haven't already done it to you, will raise your interest rate, lower your credit limit every time you make a couple payments and raise the percentage used to calculate your monthly payment? The reason they do this is because you have lost your job or got laid off or they cut back on your hours. Either way your income has been reduced so they gouge those who already are having a hard time making ends meet. Then you get hit at the grocery store with higher prices and the gas pump with higher prices and you wonder why there is so much crime and why people want to get high to escape this unreal reality.

just in the last few months all my credit card interest rates have doubled or more...not cause i missed payments or were late...but just cause of that new thing they signing in bout how they can treat us...so they robbing us before it goes into affect...sucks don't it

I hate to say it but the truth is, if you want control over your expenses then stop using credit cards. Lots of people get by just fine without them.

allthough their is still alot of people laid off and bldg. a is full of temps if that aint right i don't know what is

THTS BS wrote:

allthough their is still alot of people laid off and bldg. a is full of temps if that aint right i don't know what is

That is the new way in business. To use as many temps as possible so as to avoid paying insurance, benefits and they get away with a lower payroll since the temps aren't there long enough to deserve a raise. They don't have to factor in vacations, sick days or medical leaves. Of course on the downside the temps do not know how to perform the work correctly or as efficiently as a trained permanent staffer. I often said that if every employee up an walked out the door the place would crumble to its knees. The shift supervisors and area leaders may limp along for a while but the bottom line is that management hasn't got a clue as to how to do the actual work on the floor. A company is only as good as its workers and when they are all temps well that says a lot.

Bulldog wrote:

I got papers in the mail about them filing for bankruptcy. I am supposed to submit my claim for any money owed to me by them to be considered for payment. I guess since I was unjustly terminated I could say they owe me about 3 years back pay.

I guess you got fired because you knew so much more than anyone else. I am amazed that they have kept the doors open so long after letting a valuable employee like you go.I guess the others had to pick the slack up after you were gone.
I know that if I owned a place and you were an employee I would fire you. I wished I was 1/2 as smart and important to the company I work for as you think you are.

Cooper has looked into moving its A building site due to the fact that it is paying 3 times the area's average rate for its rent costs! Several sites have been looked at but absolutley nothing has been decided much less approved however the old press building has been looked at.
Not sure exactly what some of you are talking about but Cooper standard and by law any other company who has laid o employees for a certain duration(apx 6mnths corrections?) do and are required to call back those employees before calling in new or temp. employees. also, simple fact is these "young nose pickers" you are referring to do not exist. end of story. we had 750+ employees only a few years ago and now we bummed down to around 200 and have barely started creeping above that mark. our average employee is in there late 40's or early 50's and there are very very very few of us in our 20's and only the occasional 1 or 2 young temps in the last 2 yrs who dont know what they are doing and they quickly dissapear. THE END.
I have been laid off by this company more times thasn i can shake a stick at and permantley twice and i was called back after a month because older employees refussed choosing to sit around drawing a check or had found another job and ive only been there 3 yrs. things are far from great but only time will tell the end result. luckily we are a NONunion plant so our labor is much cheaper than some of our sister plants[including the one who conviently threatened to go on strike] hopefully, though only time will tell, we can absorbe the buisness from those plants as Corperate consolidates its plants instead of benig shutdown. then again we all may be out of a job next week WHO KNOWS? NOT THE FLOOR GUYS THATS FOR SURE WE ARENT TOLD JACK!

Thank God that Bill M. is back to grace us with his wisdom. Don't we all feel smarter now? Only if he still worked there.....things would be going so much better.
He was unjustly fired....that's laughable.

Bulldog wrote:

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That is the new way in business. To use as many temps as possible so as to avoid paying insurance, benefits and they get away with a lower payroll since the temps aren't there long enough to deserve a raise. They don't have to factor in vacations, sick days or medical leaves. Of course on the downside the temps do not know how to perform the work correctly or as efficiently as a trained permanent staffer. I often said that if every employee up an walked out the door the place would crumble to its knees. The shift supervisors and area leaders may limp along for a while but the bottom line is that management hasn't got a clue as to how to do the actual work on the floor. A company is only as good as its workers and when they are all temps well that says a lot.

To be exact, Cooper is paying $1.2 million a year for the lease on building A. Whoever owns it will not reduce the amount. The Industrial Board was asked if they could build us a building, and they said they do not have the money to do it.So the way I am seeing things.. If they do not find a site before the current lease is up, the doors will probably be shut. Hawkins county will loose a lotttttt of revenue if this happens. The amount they are paying equal more than $6 a sq ft.. the average in Hawkins County is $2.40.I don't know who owns the bldg, but I sure wish they would re-consider.. they are gonna loose the whole thing if they don't.The bottom line for any business, large or small, is profit..It is obvious from some of the post on here, that a lot of you have no clue in the cost of operating a business. If they can't make money, they are not gonna be around long...and Cooper as a Whole(not just Surgoinsville) had to swallow millions when GM & Chrysler filed bankruptcy...which in turn led to their filing as well as hundreds of other companies in the Auto Industry..Corporate(not Surgoinsville Mgmt) makes all the decisions about all their facilities.. I can only hope&pray that they make the right one when it comes to our plant.

i heard chrysler was closing one of its plants.how will that effect cooper?as long as a plant is non union they can hire temps.trw is also hiring temps and they are non union also and have not called back all of their permanent people.so i guess you just have to suck it up and wait and see if you get called back.