Police Officer Charged With DUI After Crash Involving Cruiser -...

MORON MORON MORON wrote:

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And the winner is a MORON from Virginia. Police do *NOT* need any reasonable suspicion OR probable cause to have a K-9 scan a car. A police K-9 in the State of Maryland can be wherever a police officer can be. Also, please read up on profiling before you post your Reston Virginia comments....because quite simply put you are just an:
I D I O T. Congrats!

You are having some reading comprehension issues which means you are the moron. You obviously missed the part where the montgomerey county officer said

MOCOcop wrote:

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AND BONUS for an ignorant driver behind the wheel like yourself, because that is when I take twenty minutes writing every ticket I can find in the book while I get a K-9 in the area fo find the dope in your car. CHOW CHOW idiot....

So he is in fact assuming that the person has drugs in the car. As I pointed out to him, I would gladly sit and wait for your lil dog to come sniffing around because your lil dog wont find anything. Good job over there "chuck". Looks like YOU are the idiot, I D I O T.

Montgomery County always assumes I have drugs in the car, yet their K-9 has never found anything on two seperate occasions. Once because I denied him permission to search my trunk he claims he had suspicion so a K-9 was called. I waited 2 HOURS! No dog even showed. The whole time I was threatened and harrassed with stupid questions about gang affiliation.Then they let me go with a citation for having air fresheners hanging from my rear view mirror. They were absolutely furious I knew my rights, thought I was another stupid n...

Racially Profiled wrote:

Montgomery County always assumes I have drugs in the car, yet their K-9 has never found anything on two seperate occasions. Once because I denied him permission to search my trunk he claims he had suspicion so a K-9 was called. I waited 2 HOURS! No dog even showed. The whole time I was threatened and harrassed with stupid questions about gang affiliation.Then they let me go with a citation for having air fresheners hanging from my rear view mirror. They were absolutely furious I knew my rights, thought I was another stupid n...

You mean, you were detained while the officer waited for a K9 that never showed up for 2 hours? I wouldnt believe it, but hey, MoCoCop said it out of his own mouth and the idiot that supported him...

I love it wrote:

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You mean, you were detained while the officer waited for a K9 that never showed up for 2 hours? I wouldnt believe it, but hey, MoCoCop said it out of his own mouth and the idiot that supported him...

YEP! At least two hours. You should have heard the crap and threats they were yelling during the two hours. Now I personally think they did not even call the K-9! I think they were bluffing the whole time hoping I would just break and give them permission to search my trunk. For the life of me I still do not understand why they were convinced I had something in my trunk! I have pulled over dozens of times for nothing so I know not to smoke while I drive anymore. I was not smoking or anything so why the hell were they so adamant in searching my car!?

I just hope they get that police scum off of the streets so he can't terrorize people on the road in his squad car. He probably was still going to pull black males over while he was drunk! That could have been a bad situation. I think someone would have got the Sean Bell treatment.

The Truth wrote:

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You should really get your facts straight... his girlfriend had been in an accident but she was not under the influence of any drungs or alcohol. It is awful that you are trying to make a bad situation worse by spreading rumors. Maybe everything you hear about people is not true so just wait till the real facts come out before you judge someone.

Yea you have been told misleading information she WAS arrested for a DUI.. Hmmmm why don't you pop in "case search" on the google bar and type her name and you can see for yourself and then you will feel real stupid. Sorry babe everyone already knows the truth no need to cover it up now or atleast try and cover it up.

http://www.gazette.net/stories/052108/chevnew...

Can you believe this? Chief Manger, what are you doing? You're so worried about speed camera tickets?

I just can't wait until I screw up bad, then I can be awarded.

And where's my friggin take home???

MOCOcop wrote:

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Hey wonderful county resident, how about this idea? Just because he is a cop and brings his car home, doesn't mean he has to deal with the stuff that's going on in the neighborhood. Have you ever heard the phrase "don't sh&t where you eat?" I don't get involved in half the stuff that goes on in my neighborhood, not because I am not proactive....just because I don't care to flex my muscles here. I don't see you on here whinning about the other professions in the neighborhood such as plumbers not providing free service, electricians not fixing pepco or BG&E problems, accountants not finding fault in HOA if you have one, doctors not coming to the aide of an injured squirl....should I go on? No, I shouldn't....because you are to ignorant to under what I'm saying.

Have a wonderful day you fine human being.

About the Montgomery County Department of Police

Vision Statement

We, the Montgomery County Department of Police, are committed to providing the highest quality of police services to the people who live, work and visit our County. We will constantly evaluate and improve our efforts to enhance public safety with the goal of improving the quality of life within Montgomery County, while at the same time maintaining respect for individual rights and human dignity.

Mission Statement

The Mission of the Montgomery County Department of Police is to safeguard life and property, preserve the peace, prevent and detect crime, enforce the law, and protect the rights of all citizens. We are committed to working in partnership with the community to identify and resolve issues that impact public safety.

Pride

We are committed to conducting ourselves in a manner that brings honor to ourselves, the department, and the county.

Respect

We are committed to respecting the individual rights, human dignity and the value of all members of the community and the department.

Integrity

We are committed to nurturing the public trust by holding ourselves accountable to the highest standards of professional conduct and ethics.

Dedication

We are committed to providing the highest quality of law enforcement service to the community with the goal of enhancing the quality of life within Montgomery County.

Excellence

We are committed to achieving a level of performance that exceeds all expectations.
We begin with Pride, and end with Excellence.

It seems you have a little trouble in your view of a MCP policeman's sworn duty.

As for taking cruisers home, that is another bilking of the taxpayer. It supposedly prevents crime in neighborhoods and slow traffic when seen. Bullshit!

You lazy SOB's wouldn't get your lazy ass out of a cruiser unless some unlucky soul tips a beer can and all you see is your free dinner for the most kills.

What this county needs is a Civilian Review Board, not that they would be much more honest.

Gary wrote:

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About the Montgomery County Department of Police
Vision Statement
We, the Montgomery County Department of Police, are committed to providing the highest quality of police services to the people who live, work and visit our County. We will constantly evaluate and improve our efforts to enhance public safety with the goal of improving the quality of life within Montgomery County, while at the same time maintaining respect for individual rights and human dignity.
Mission Statement
The Mission of the Montgomery County Department of Police is to safeguard life and property, preserve the peace, prevent and detect crime, enforce the law, and protect the rights of all citizens. We are committed to working in partnership with the community to identify and resolve issues that impact public safety.
Pride
We are committed to conducting ourselves in a manner that brings honor to ourselves, the department, and the county.
Respect
We are committed to respecting the individual rights, human dignity and the value of all members of the community and the department.
Integrity
We are committed to nurturing the public trust by holding ourselves accountable to the highest standards of professional conduct and ethics.
Dedication
We are committed to providing the highest quality of law enforcement service to the community with the goal of enhancing the quality of life within Montgomery County.
Excellence
We are committed to achieving a level of performance that exceeds all expectations.
We begin with Pride, and end with Excellence.
It seems you have a little trouble in your view of a MCP policeman's sworn duty.
As for taking cruisers home, that is another bilking of the taxpayer. It supposedly prevents crime in neighborhoods and slow traffic when seen. Bullshit!
You lazy SOB's wouldn't get your lazy ass out of a cruiser unless some unlucky soul tips a beer can and all you see is your free dinner for the most kills.
What this county needs is a Civilian Review Board, not that they would be much more honest.

Gary, ur a freakin idiot, but we are used to your kind. I love laying my life on the line every day so you can post this ridiculous crap. Enjoy your desk job tommorow or perhaps the fast food place you work at while i go protect your family.

confused wrote:

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Gary, ur a freakin idiot, but we are used to your kind. I love laying my life on the line every day so you can post this ridiculous crap. Enjoy your desk job tommorow or perhaps the fast food place you work at while i go protect your family.

YOU ARE LAYING YOUR LIFE ON THE LINE EVERYDAY BECAUSE THAT IS THE JOB YOU WERE HIRED TO DO!!!!!! I love how all these cops complain about how dangerous there job is and how it is so hard, but you are the ones that decided to take the job and wear the badge so stop your crying and do your job or find another one you sorry sack of crap!! COPS ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF CRYING LITTLE BABIES THAT CONSTANTLY BITCH ABOUT THE JOB THEY DECIDED TO TAKE AND THEN THINK THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW AND CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY ARE A COP, WHAT A JOKE!!! IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE JOB THEN QUIT YOU BABY!!!!

Racially Profiled ... Here's an tidbit of educational fact for you: there is no such thing as "racial profiling". The phrase is simple jargon coined by the news media some time ago. While I admit there are a very small number of corrupt/bad cops out there, drivers are LEGALLY stopped and detained for violations of traffic law, criminal law, local codes and warrants (to name a few). If a police officer develops further reasonable suspicion or probable cause, he/she will take the stop to the next level. It may be a matter of inconvenience, but the reality is that a large percentage of arrests are made for drugs, weapons, fugitives, etc. during a traffic stop. There is no such thing as a "routine" traffic stop.

Kevin ... if you haven't completed your GED yet, I strongly suggest that you take some free courses during your next prison term. By the way, police officers are not paid to die. They're highly trained to PROTECT you (unfortunately) and every other mutt out there on the street. If you can actually comprehend what you read, I also suggest that you check out some federal, state and local laws that provide certain exceptions for public safety personnel (police, fire-rescue, EMS, DOT, etc).

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Unfortunately, this incident generally reflects poorly upon the Montgomery County Police, just as every other However, it was an INDIVIDUAL officer's poor judgement. Although I am not a big fan of the Montgomery County Police, I have to admit that they investigate, arrest, terminate, suspend, counsel and generally discipline their officers fairly. Distel will receive the same treatment in court and at his MVA hearing as any other citizen. Internally, the department will treat him no different than any other officer who has violated department policy and state law.

Hold off on the unintelligent critiques, misinformation and police bashing. The truth lies in the facts, not the Internet. There will be a resolution to this incident.

And yes, I am a police officer in Montgomery County.

Curious wrote:

Racially Profiled ... Here's an tidbit of educational fact for you: there is no such thing as "racial profiling". The phrase is simple jargon coined by the news media some time ago. While I admit there are a very small number of corrupt/bad cops out there, drivers are LEGALLY stopped and detained for violations of traffic law, criminal law, local codes and warrants (to name a few). If a police officer develops further reasonable suspicion or probable cause, he/she will take the stop to the next level. It may be a matter of inconvenience, but the reality is that a large percentage of arrests are made for drugs, weapons, fugitives, etc. during a traffic stop. There is no such thing as a "routine" traffic stop.

And yes, I am a police officer in Montgomery County.

So you are BIASED. If you truly are a Montgomerey County police officer, then you of all people should know that Montgomerey County Police were sued in the early 90's in reference to racially profiling minority drivers. The dept entered an agreement with the DOJ in reference to documenting ALL drivers they came in contact with. How do I know?
A. The MCPD, in consultation with the FOP, will develop and implement a protocol requiring police officers to document all traffic stops (the "data collection protocol"). The protocol shall include the provisions set forth below in paragraphs (B) through (E) of this subpart.
B. The information to be collected on each traffic stop shall include the following:
* the MCPD "subgroup" to which the officer is assigned, as defined in paragraph (C) of this subpart;
* date, time (in six-hour blocks), and location of the stop;
* approximate duration of the stop;
* the race/ethnicity and gender of the driver, and the driver’s date of birth if known;
* the state in which the driver is licensed to drive, and whether the driver is a resident of Montgomery County, as reflected by the driver’s license;
* the state in which the stopped vehicle is registered;
* whether the stop was based on use of radar, laser, or a "be on the look-out" call;
* whether the driver was issued a summons or warning and, if so, the types of violations cited or warned;
* whether consent to search the vehicle was requested and, if so, whether consent was granted;
* whether a nonconsensual search of the vehicle was conducted;
* whether any contraband or other property was seized, and if so, a description of the type and quantity of any contraband or other property seized; and
* whether the driver or passenger(s) were arrested, and if so, the types of charges.
http://www.adversity.net/MontgomeryCountyPoli...
I know first hand because years ago I was stopped a few times on my way to see my fiance (montgomerey county resident)and the 4 different officers said the same thing untill I showed my badge and ID. "Failure to maintain a proper lane." No thx, WE moved to northern VA where its safe.

Sad ... If you actually read the facts that I posted, you would understand that I am not "biased", and neither is MCP.
The DOJ agreement and web site you posted is old information. Outdated, at best. You also failed to note that the lawsuit was groundless and fruitless:
Facts of that lawsuit and DOJ action:
**"For 3 years, from 1996 to 1999, the Clinton Justice Department (DOJ) investigated the Montgomery County Police Department and found NO evidence of racial discrimination by police."**
**"Nonetheless, in Oct. 1999 Clinton's DOJ threatened Montgomery County with years of continued harassment and/or lawsuits if the police didn't institute "good" racial profiling (racial identification of ALL traffic stops)."**
** "[Editor's Note: DOJ conducted an expensive 3 year investigation and found NO evidence of racial discrimination in Montgomery County. However, faced with the threat of a pointless but expensive DOJ civil lawsuit, and in order to avoid years of continued harassment by both the DOJ and the NAACP, Montgomery County and the Fraternal Order of Police reluctantly negotiated the following agreement to get the DOJ off their backs, and to allow the police to get on with the business of preventing crime.]"**
MCP officers are still required to log traffic stop data to this day. The law that requires all Maryland agencies to maintain such data has an "expiration date". However, in order to maintain a sort of political correctness, that sunshine law was renewed.
As police officers in Montgomery County, we have more serious and realistic problems to worry about: violent crime, gangs and drugs. We won't even discuss the related problems of illegal immigration. Living in northern Virginia, you are already aware of all of those things, too.
The concern is, and should be, the negative impact that this incident will have on MCP, the public and one individual officer -- and how is it resolved.

Crapola ... Chief Manger has a lot on his political breakfast plate right now. His concern is not being the police ... his points of focus are:
- Generating fines from speed camera tickets to bolster the county revenue, especially from on-duty police officers... even from those exempt by law in the performance of their duties.
- Hiring immigrants as police officers.
- Creating, supplementing and supporting existing and new useless police units that take officers off the streets.
- Allowing a private fleet maintenance company to fail to meet their contractual obligations to get new police cruisers on the street.
- Fail to publicly stand up for his own agency when the county threatened to violate the current contract.
- Continue to allow a rogue watch commander with a discipline history to roam the streets at night and turn bad situations into worse ones.
Shall I continue?

Curious wrote:

Sad ... If you actually read the facts that I posted, you would understand that I am not "biased", and neither is MCP.
The DOJ agreement and web site you posted is old information. Outdated, at best. You also failed to note that the lawsuit was groundless and fruitless:
Facts of that lawsuit and DOJ action:
**"For 3 years, from 1996 to 1999, the Clinton Justice Department (DOJ) investigated the Montgomery County Police Department and found NO evidence of racial discrimination by police."**
**"Nonetheless, in Oct. 1999 Clinton's DOJ threatened Montgomery County with years of continued harassment and/or lawsuits if the police didn't institute "good" racial profiling (racial identification of ALL traffic stops)."**
** "[Editor's Note: DOJ conducted an expensive 3 year investigation and found NO evidence of racial discrimination in Montgomery County. However, faced with the threat of a pointless but expensive DOJ civil lawsuit, and in order to avoid years of continued harassment by both the DOJ and the NAACP, Montgomery County and the Fraternal Order of Police reluctantly negotiated the following agreement to get the DOJ off their backs, and to allow the police to get on with the business of preventing crime.]"**
MCP officers are still required to log traffic stop data to this day. The law that requires all Maryland agencies to maintain such data has an "expiration date". However, in order to maintain a sort of political correctness, that sunshine law was renewed.
As police officers in Montgomery County, we have more serious and realistic problems to worry about: violent crime, gangs and drugs. We won't even discuss the related problems of illegal immigration. Living in northern Virginia, you are already aware of all of those things, too.
The concern is, and should be, the negative impact that this incident will have on MCP, the public and one individual officer -- and how is it resolved.

Quick question. Where is the link to this info you posted? As you can see in my post, I posted a link. And once again, I truly could care less about the officer or the incident in question. My problem is with the ignorant MCP officer (or claiming to be) who pretty much stated that he "profiles" drivers. Scroll up for a refresher.

Curious wrote:

Crapola ... Chief Manger has a lot on his political breakfast plate right now. His concern is not being the police ... his points of focus are:
- Generating fines from speed camera tickets to bolster the county revenue, especially from on-duty police officers... even from those exempt by law in the performance of their duties.
- Hiring immigrants as police officers.
- Creating, supplementing and supporting existing and new useless police units that take officers off the streets.
- Allowing a private fleet maintenance company to fail to meet their contractual obligations to get new police cruisers on the street.
- Fail to publicly stand up for his own agency when the county threatened to violate the current contract.
- Continue to allow a rogue watch commander with a discipline history to roam the streets at night and turn bad situations into worse ones.
Shall I continue?

Now im "Curious". You "claim" to be a MCP officer, but your IP states you are in DC. While I dont doubt what you say (partly because my best friend is on MCP and some of the things you say are true).

Sad ... that info is on the same "adversity.net " website you posted about the DOJ agreement. Front page of the MCP info:
http://www.adversity.net/MontgomeryCountyPoli...

If I missed something about an officer claiming that he/she "profiles" drivers, then shame on that officer.

Yes, I am an MCP officer. I live and work in MoCo, but I have no idea why my IP comes up DC. Maybe my Internet service provider line is coming out of DC. I'm pretty computer literate, but I don't know why it would do that.

Curious wrote:

Racially Profiled ... Here's an tidbit of educational fact for you: there is no such thing as "racial profiling". The phrase is simple jargon coined by the news media some time ago. While I admit there are a very small number of corrupt/bad cops out there, drivers are LEGALLY stopped and detained for violations of traffic law, criminal law, local codes and warrants (to name a few). If a police officer develops further reasonable suspicion or probable cause, he/she will take the stop to the next level. It may be a matter of inconvenience, but the reality is that a large percentage of arrests are made for drugs, weapons, fugitives, etc. during a traffic stop. There is no such thing as a "routine" traffic stop.
Kevin ... if you haven't completed your GED yet, I strongly suggest that you take some free courses during your next prison term. By the way, police officers are not paid to die. They're highly trained to PROTECT you (unfortunately) and every other mutt out there on the street. If you can actually comprehend what you read, I also suggest that you check out some federal, state and local laws that provide certain exceptions for public safety personnel (police, fire-rescue, EMS, DOT, etc).
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Unfortunately, this incident generally reflects poorly upon the Montgomery County Police, just as every other However, it was an INDIVIDUAL officer's poor judgement. Although I am not a big fan of the Montgomery County Police, I have to admit that they investigate, arrest, terminate, suspend, counsel and generally discipline their officers fairly. Distel will receive the same treatment in court and at his MVA hearing as any other citizen. Internally, the department will treat him no different than any other officer who has violated department policy and state law.
Hold off on the unintelligent critiques, misinformation and police bashing. The truth lies in the facts, not the Internet. There will be a resolution to this incident.
And yes, I am a police officer in Montgomery County.

You have the balls to talk to me about education!! I have a masters degree in criminal justice and served 20 years for MCP and retired after dealing with assholes like you!! Face it, your information is wrong and the fact that you claim to be an officer is even worse, and if you are you need to join your other crying officer's who can't handle their job. I put my life on the line for 20 years because I decided to do so knowing what I had to deal with everytime I put on my uniform on. I did not cry and complain and act like a little baby because my job was hard or I had to deal with the public everyday. Officers now a day's make me sick because they are pussies like you!

Curious wrote:

Racially Profiled ... Here's an tidbit of educational fact for you: there is no such thing as "racial profiling". The phrase is simple jargon coined by the news media some time ago. While I admit there are a very small number of corrupt/bad cops out there, drivers are LEGALLY stopped and detained for violations of traffic law, criminal law, local codes and warrants (to name a few). If a police officer develops further reasonable suspicion or probable cause, he/she will take the stop to the next level. It may be a matter of inconvenience, but the reality is that a large percentage of arrests are made for drugs, weapons, fugitives, etc. during a traffic stop. There is no such thing as a "routine" traffic stop.
Kevin ... if you haven't completed your GED yet, I strongly suggest that you take some free courses during your next prison term. By the way, police officers are not paid to die. They're highly trained to PROTECT you (unfortunately) and every other mutt out there on the street. If you can actually comprehend what you read, I also suggest that you check out some federal, state and local laws that provide certain exceptions for public safety personnel (police, fire-rescue, EMS, DOT, etc).
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Unfortunately, this incident generally reflects poorly upon the Montgomery County Police, just as every other However, it was an INDIVIDUAL officer's poor judgement. Although I am not a big fan of the Montgomery County Police, I have to admit that they investigate, arrest, terminate, suspend, counsel and generally discipline their officers fairly. Distel will receive the same treatment in court and at his MVA hearing as any other citizen. Internally, the department will treat him no different than any other officer who has violated department policy and state law.
Hold off on the unintelligent critiques, misinformation and police bashing. The truth lies in the facts, not the Internet. There will be a resolution to this incident.
And yes, I am a police officer in Montgomery County.

Curious, I care nothing about jargon or the media. IT IS A FACT THAT YOU AND YOUR KLAN CRONIES TARGET CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS. I don't know what planet or county you live in. Just make sure you cease crossing the line when you and your good ole boys decide to " take it to the next level ". Being treated like a second class citizen on a consistent basis is not just an inconvienience. Skin color is never grounds to take it to the next level.

Kevin ... Seems to me you have some personal issues about the profession. I'm a well-educated, veteran officer as well ... not some snot-nosed Beta they hire fresh out of college or McDonald's like they do these days. I'm also not one of those out-of-state transplants, or some idiot living out of county thinking they're saving money by commuting 100 miles roundtrip every shift or for payjobs. Yeah, I do have balls. Big enough to challenge people with a mentality like yours, cop or otherwise.
I'm well aware of the ****(as you put it) in and about Montgomery County AND its police department. This whole area stinks to high heaven. It reaks of corrupt politics, poor police administration and a joke of a criminal justice system.
I'm not sure what you mean exactly, but my information is completely accurate, except maybe on your background.
I'm not crying or shouting my way through OR out of my police career. Why would you keep shaking your fist at Montgomery County from the Panhandle instead of doing something about it? Make some changes. Come back and teach at the academy or write some public letters about how it really is?

Racially Profiled ... Are you in denial or just a simple buffoon as you make yourself out to be? You should be very concerned with the media and the false reality it presents to the public daily. I treat everyone equally on the street ... everyone get's the one chance they deserve. If they blow it, it's on them and then it goes "to the next level". I've never stopped or arrested anyone based upon race. I stop idiot drivers and arrest scum that have no business being on the street. I'm far from being a Klansman, but I DO take serious personal issue with cops that disgrace their badge in any form. If you're the alleged target of harassment or discrimination, why don't you file an official complaint with the police department. Bear in mind that if you file a FALSE complaint, you could face civil action by an individual police officer. Yes, police officers can sue the public, too.