Woman who admitted to starving her dog to death is released fro...

What is the defination of a Humam? O J Simpson is a human. I would rather be catagorized as an animal and my animal friends are superior than human OJ

Did you see the recent article that the state atty has dropped her charges to a misdeameanor? Maximum $1000 fine and 1 year in jail. She goddam better get the 1 year. This is bullchit

xxx wrote:

Did you see the recent article that the state atty has dropped her charges to a misdeameanor? Maximum $1000 fine and 1 year in jail. She goddam better get the 1 year. This is bullchit

Amen.....but let's all get prepared to watch her waltz away with a token tap on the wrist. Florida's animal abuse laws - and the enforcers - suck, to put it mildly.....

It's very hard to think of how this sweet dog must have suffered. Hope this woman gets the jail time!

She most likely will get off with a slap on the wrist, considering the fact that most parents who kill or injure their own children get off easy.

Remember the mother who left her child to cook and die in her car, because she forgot to take it to daycare, and worked for the City of Ocoee? There is more outrage about this dog, than for the human child this woman killed.

Didn't she escape charges?

If the Florida laws allow you to kill your own child due to "forgetfulness", then how can they prosecute for "forgetting" an animal?

Animals are considered property- she won't get any jail time. Even though I think she should.

Maybe all the responses here will be heard- I only hope that all of you come forward in outrage the same way, the next time a child is "accidentally" killed by it's parents. Only then will we be able to possibly take back control of our out of control society.

"Remember the mother who left her child to cook and die in her car, because she forgot to take it to daycare, and worked for the City of Ocoee? There is more outrage about this dog, than for the human child this woman killed."

The difference between these two stories is staggering. That mother forgot that her child was in the car. I can't possibly understand HOW she forgot her child was in the car, but she did, obviously. No mother in her right mind would intentionally kill her own child. And I stress IN HER RIGHT MIND. She will live with the guilt of killing her child every day for the rest of her life. This P.O.S. Chrisine intentionally left her dog to starve to death. She admitted that she knew what would happen to Ella and she shows no remorse. She needs to be punished!! And she needs to be made to never forget what she did. I wish that they made convicted animal abusers have to register like sex offenders so that she can never move to a new town and do this to another animal.

Urgent!! May 19th Rally for Ella and the Fight Against Animal Cruelty
Monday, May 19
7:45am
Brevard County Courthouse - 2825 Judge Fran Jamieson Way, Viera 32940

Hello Everyone,
There will be a Rally for Ella and the Fight Against Animal Cruelty this Monday, May 19th, at 7:45AM at the 4-way stop in front of the Brevard County Courthouse in Viera!! If you support the fight against animal cruelty and want justice for Ella, then please attend! The more people, the better. The purpose of this demonstration is to show the prosecutors and judges that the citizens of Brevard County and the State of Florida support tough prosecution for all animal abusers. This is also an effort to show the County and the State of Florida as a whole that Animal Cruelty will not be tolerated, and starving an animal or killing an animal in general should be made a felony by statute- not a misdemeanor! Please join the fight against cruelty!

If you can join us at the rally, please do not block any walkways, roads, access areas, etc. Please be respectful also! No obscenities or littering, and remember, you are responsible for your own behavior. If you plan to attend, feel free to bring a sign, or just use one of ours. Be a voice for Ella!

Please contact Holly at fightanimalcruelty@yahoo.com if you have any questions

Thank You So Much for Your Support!!!

On June 18, 2008 … the day of her hearing …… this woman needs to get a jail sentence, fined, and community work added to her sentence but if she only gets fined and probation she should spend years caring for starved and abused animals ….. feeding and caring for them and to get an education on exactly what happened to Ella and how she died and how excruciatingly painful her death was not to mention the emotion distress of being abandoned by her care giver. The hours and days she spent wondering what happened and why was this happening to her. I have cried thousands of tears for weeks just wondering how much that poor creature suffered and would have done anything to have saved her. If the laws in Florida do not have enough “teeth” in them to convict this absolute horror of a human being then we all need to do something about it. I plan to write and continue to write our state representatives until something is done.

I have passed the "rally info" along to the local Humane Society, the SPCA, to a rescue group in Orlando, and to a guy who holds "Rescue Roundups" in Brevard County.....
As for Abrams' last known address (where she lived with her "boyfriend"): it was two blocks from me but, after this poop hit the fan, she hasn't been seen there since. As for her former address (where Ella died), Abrams could've still let that dog loose in the house....please don't get me started again on thinking about how much Ella suffered.....I, too, have cried many tears but, at least, now we know Ella is out of her misery. Small comfort, I know...
Regarding the laws in FL having no teeth: you said it, sister.....however, it also depends on how prosecutors "interpret" the laws. I.E., we have a huge bunch of useless, gutless wonders when it comes to animal abuse. In my 40+ years here, I've never heard of one person - not one - being seriously taken to task for such crimes.
Please continue to write the SAO, the state legislators, etc.....I am, too.

fightanimalcruelty wrote:

Urgent!! May 19th Rally for Ella and the Fight Against Animal Cruelty
Monday, May 19
7:45am
Brevard County Courthouse - 2825 Judge Fran Jamieson Way, Viera 32940
Hello Everyone,
There will be a Rally for Ella and the Fight Against Animal Cruelty this Monday, May 19th, at 7:45AM at the 4-way stop in front of the Brevard County Courthouse in Viera!! If you support the fight against animal cruelty and want justice for Ella, then please attend! The more people, the better. The purpose of this demonstration is to show the prosecutors and judges that the citizens of Brevard County and the State of Florida support tough prosecution for all animal abusers. This is also an effort to show the County and the State of Florida as a whole that Animal Cruelty will not be tolerated, and starving an animal or killing an animal in general should be made a felony by statute- not a misdemeanor! Please join the fight against cruelty!
If you can join us at the rally, please do not block any walkways, roads, access areas, etc. Please be respectful also! No obscenities or littering, and remember, you are responsible for your own behavior. If you plan to attend, feel free to bring a sign, or just use one of ours. Be a voice for Ella!
Please contact Holly at fightanimalcruelty@yahoo.com if you have any questions
Thank You So Much for Your Support!!!

Hey guys, there is a typo there. That email address should be fightagainstcruelty@yahoo.com

Thank you for all your support, and thanks to For the Dogs for passing on this information.

STARVE HER.

Scott wrote:

What is the defination of a Humam? O J Simpson is a human. I would rather be catagorized as an animal and my animal friends are superior than human OJ

How about animals in the wild that tear each other from limb to limb and feast on the flesh?

old curmudgeon wrote:

<quoted text>How about animals in the wild that tear each other from limb to limb and feast on the flesh?

What in God's name does this example have to do with someone intentionally locking up a dog - who had no chance of survivial - and then deliberately leaving her to starve to death????? Stay on point, would ya?

I would attend if I were not in WV, used to live in Melbourne and please pleae you all go and show the judges how this affects so many people and maybe they will know how mad we will be if they let her off scott free good luck and god bless you all

Convict Christine wrote:

It is a profound mystery to me how this woman is able to still live in the area unabashed. Her last known address is 1112 Peachtree Street, Cocoa Florida 32922 and apparently is/was living with a Steven Kyle. I believe her birth date is 6/1/1978. If Kyle was living with her before the water was turned off forcing them to move and abandon Ella (because the boyfriend didn’t like her)..... then more than likely poor Ella spent most of her days when she was fed in the crate she died in. I for one hate crates. I believe they are over used and I've known about countless animals that have spent more than 80% of their lives in crates. They are a convenient restraint for an animal and are used in a lot of cases in lieu of proper training. If you Google Earth the address the yard is not fenced and is in an industrial area and appears to have a number of trees in the yard. There’s no way to have contained her to the yard and her cries for help may have gone unheard. How a human being could do this to an animal is beyond me. It was an intentional act to starve the animal when there were countless other solutions. She picked the worst for Ella to suffer.

"Crating" a dog is not cruel at all, I wish that I had known about that training method when I was young. The best behaved and well adjusted dogs I had were crate trained and they spent more time in them with the door opened than shut, it gives them a sense of security.

I find this whole thread to be very sad,,, so many people who really don't seem to understand that animals don't think or feel as humans do,, who are more comfortable wanting to hurt another human being than to actually do anything postitive for animals.

It is a sad society that will get worked up more over an animal than for any of the myriad of atrocities that happen to humans.

She's fat and a C U N T. I hope she get in a (further) disfiguring car accident.

NEW INFORMATION!!

Christine Abrams' hearing has been moved up to this Thursday, May 22, at 10AM before Judge Rhonda Babb at the Moore Justice Center in Viera.

If no plea deal is reached, the case is still tentatively scheduled for June 18 before Judge McKibben. All of this is subject to change (obviously, since we're just now getting the word about Thursday!).....Anyway, if you can, please be there Thursday to make your feelings known.

Learn From the Past wrote:

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"Crating" a dog is not cruel at all, I wish that I had known about that training method when I was young. The best behaved and well adjusted dogs I had were crate trained and they spent more time in them with the door opened than shut, it gives them a sense of security.
I find this whole thread to be very sad,,, so many people who really don't seem to understand that animals don't think or feel as humans do,, who are more comfortable wanting to hurt another human being than to actually do anything postitive for animals.
It is a sad society that will get worked up more over an animal than for any of the myriad of atrocities that happen to humans.

You obviously are not much better in the way that you think than Christine Abrams. You talk about the atrocities humans perpetrate on other humans but domesticated animals are domesticated by humans, a higher form of life. Who do you think that makes responsible for the care and protection of domesticated animals. Humans !!!!. Whether it’s your own animal or someone else’s, if it's being abused and starved it suffers and humans need to intervene and do what they can to eliminate the problem and to punish those responsible for the abise. If left on their own without being domesticated they would take care of themselves and I might add they do that a hell of a lot better than humans. To suggest that an animal doesn't have feelings like a human is absurd. They are much more sensitive than most people. Dogs ARE "dening" animals but that doesn’t meant they want to spend most of there lives in a den. They want to interact with their owners to give them love and attention. It IS unfortunate that humans have to rely on other humans to alleviate atrocities but that in no way negates/mitigates the responsibility that all of us have to care for and protect all lower forms of life from neglect and abuse. Thank God I don't know you nor anyone like you.

Convict Christine wrote:

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You obviously are not much better in the way that you think than Christine Abrams. You talk about the atrocities humans perpetrate on other humans but domesticated animals are domesticated by humans, a higher form of life. Who do you think that makes responsible for the care and protection of domesticated animals. Humans !!!!. Whether it’s your own animal or someone else’s, if it's being abused and starved it suffers and humans need to intervene and do what they can to eliminate the problem and to punish those responsible for the abise. If left on their own without being domesticated they would take care of themselves and I might add they do that a hell of a lot better than humans. To suggest that an animal doesn't have feelings like a human is absurd. They are much more sensitive than most people. Dogs ARE "dening" animals but that doesn’t meant they want to spend most of there lives in a den. They want to interact with their owners to give them love and attention. It IS unfortunate that humans have to rely on other humans to alleviate atrocities but that in no way negates/mitigates the responsibility that all of us have to care for and protect all lower forms of life from neglect and abuse. Thank God I don't know you nor anyone like you.

Hi, Plano --- FYI: I think "Learn from the Past" posts here just to get a reaction. I've gone round and round with "him" and, believe me, it's a true waste of time and energy. So don't let him get to you; that's what he wants. Ignore him...

Convict Christine wrote:

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You obviously are not much better in the way that you think than Christine Abrams. You talk about the atrocities humans perpetrate on other humans but domesticated animals are domesticated by humans, a higher form of life. Who do you think that makes responsible for the care and protection of domesticated animals. Humans !!!!. Whether it’s your own animal or someone else’s, if it's being abused and starved it suffers and humans need to intervene and do what they can to eliminate the problem and to punish those responsible for the abise. If left on their own without being domesticated they would take care of themselves and I might add they do that a hell of a lot better than humans. To suggest that an animal doesn't have feelings like a human is absurd. They are much more sensitive than most people. Dogs ARE "dening" animals but that doesn’t meant they want to spend most of there lives in a den. They want to interact with their owners to give them love and attention. It IS unfortunate that humans have to rely on other humans to alleviate atrocities but that in no way negates/mitigates the responsibility that all of us have to care for and protect all lower forms of life from neglect and abuse. Thank God I don't know you nor anyone like you.

Your reply is full of innacuracies,,, first off you do know plenty of people like me and I know plenty of people like you. In public we would probably get along ok I just would ignore your misguided priorities and you would probably ignore the issues that I feel are important like our ever expanding government, our loss of wildlands so Florida's population can keep exploding, the lack of intelligence and work ethic of today's average high school graduate,, etc.etc.

Humans domesticated animals,,, they did so to use them to advance themselves and make life better and easier FOR HUMANS,,, in the probably 100,000 years humans have been domesticating animals only in about the last 100 years has any human had concern for the animals welfare except as it pertained to their investment. In the last 20 years greedy people lioke Ingrid Newkirk and Wayne Pacelle have seen the opportunity (just like the televangelists) to gain wealth and power off the stupid who are willing to follow them,, to deny that those who are so vocal for the animals are merely pawns in these scam artists games is stupidity.

"To suggest that an animal doesn't have feelings like a human is absurd. They are much more sensitive than most people." this is complete idiocy, some animals can feel and react to changes in the weather, and earth, but to suggest that they love, hate, have remorse, sorrow, etc. etc. is absurd.

"If left on their own without being domesticated they would take care of themselves and I might add they do that a hell of a lot better than humans."

Once more this is just plain wrong, most "wild" animals have lifespans about half of their domesticated counterparts and the only individuals who reach that are childbearing females and the dominant males, the rest live unfulfilling, painful, short lives.

Loss of habitat is most animals worst enemy right now and if human population continues to grow domesticated or caged animals will be all that's left.

See,,, I touched on so many more important issues to both humans and animals than one unfortunate dog's death, that I hope you can learn just a little to be more like me and care for more than just one incident that is already being dealt with by the authorities.