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OCCU_PUPPY

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Minnesota may put the Right to Work amendment on the ballot this November and the public unions are already in attack mode.
Minnesota taxpayers pay their public employees about $5500 a year more than in Right to Work states and the unions think this is a good thing. If unions are so great why are they so afraid of giving workers a choice whether or not to join? And whether they want their dues funneled to a political party they might not support.
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You answered your own question. Unions get the workers more money, WHICH IS GREAT !
A better question is why not get a union job/pay/benefits and provide for your family better ???

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OCCU_PUPPY wrote:
Minnesota may put the Right to Work amendment on the ballot this November and the public unions are already in attack mode.
Minnesota taxpayers pay their public employees about $5500 a year more than in Right to Work states and the unions think this is a good thing. If unions are so great why are they so afraid of giving workers a choice whether or not to join? And whether they want their dues funneled to a political party they might not support.
Minnesota pays a living wage. negosiated over many years and they earn every dime.

You sound like some Walkerite Republican with hate for anyone who could make middle class.

You must be rich or believing you are.
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Minnesota pays a living wage. negosiated over many years and they earn every dime.
You sound like some Walkerite Republican with hate for anyone who could make middle class.
You must be rich or believing you are.
That hateful person just got an entire state out of the red for the first time in many years.

But math probably confuses you.
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Minnesota pays a living wage. negosiated over many years and they earn every dime.
You sound like some Walkerite Republican with hate for anyone who could make middle class.
You must be rich or believing you are.
"They earn every dime" LOL. You didn't see the videos of the city-workers standing around leaning on their shovels or the six guys filling one tiny hole.
They are notoriously lazy, and, thanks to their union, can't be fired.
I used to rent to a bunch of city truck drivers and the stories I could tell, but won't.
Why should those who work for the taxpayers have better wages and benefits than those in the private sector? You sound like a liberal communist.
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Gov. Scott Walker has tried in recent weeks to claim that his assault on the collective bargaining rights of teachers and his deep cuts in education funding have somehow benefited school districts across Wisconsin.

But he threw in the towel Monday, with an acknowledgement that the cuts have been deep and painful.

Of course, Walker did not know he was admitting the failure of his initiative.

But consider the governor’s response to the Wisconsin Association of School District Administrators survey of districts across the state. The survey found that the majority of Wisconsin students now attend schools that have experienced significant cuts in teaching staff and education aides and that the deepest cuts were to special education programs. The report was broadly seen as a damning indictment of the governor’s approach. Walker had to say something.

On Monday, the governor’s office put out a press release headlined:“WASDA Survey Results: Myth vs. Reality.” The statement had the governor chirping:“The reforms put in place earlier this year have not only helped schools balance their budgets without massive layoffs or property tax increases, but these innovative changes have also helped improve education, which is good for students all across Wisconsin.”

Yet the statistics the governor chose to focus on — in an apparent effort to “back up” his claim — revealed:

One in four school districts (25 percent) that responded to the survey had been forced to increase class sizes for kindergartners and children in first, second and third grade.

One in three districts (33 percent) had been forced to increase the class sizes for children in fourth through sixth grade.

These numbers add up to less teacher time per student in the critical early grades for tens of thousands of Wisconsin children.

But it gets worse.

Walker acknowledges in his own statement that children in the most vulnerable circumstances are being hit hardest. According to the numbers cited by the governor:

• More than a quarter (26 percent) of school districts have cut special education staff, meaning that children with disabilities will have fewer aides and that teachers will have a harder time balancing the demands and needs of all children in their classrooms.

• More than a quarter (27 percent) of districts have the cut library and media center staff, meaning that children who do not have access to new technologies at home will have less access to them at school.

• One sixth (16 percent) of districts cut drug and alcohol abuse staff, meaning that hundreds of thousands of young people will get less education and encouragement to resist pressures to abuse drugs and alcohol.

• One sixth (16 percent) of districts cut reading coordination staff.

• More than one in seven districts (15 percent) have cut guidance staff.

• More than one in seven districts (15 percent) have cut staff that directly serves at-risk youth.

These are not the areas that the governor’s critics chose to focus on. These are the cuts that the governor has acknowledged in his own statement on the WASDA survey.

Why? Perhaps the governor really does believe that increasing class sizes, cutting staff for special education and at-risk kids, and making it dramatically harder for thousands of Wisconsin students to learn about technology represent “reform” that is good for students.

But Wisconsinites are not as ignorant as their governor. They know that the cuts are causing real pain.

As Superintendent of Public Instruction Tony Evers says:“It is clear this year that districts had to cut staff, eliminate vital support services, and reduce course offerings, narrowing educational opportunities for Wisconsin’s school children.”

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OCCU_PUPPY wrote:
<quoted text>"They earn every dime" LOL. You didn't see the videos of the city-workers standing around leaning on their shovels or the six guys filling one tiny hole.
They are notoriously lazy, and, thanks to their union, can't be fired.
I used to rent to a bunch of city truck drivers and the stories I could tell, but won't.
Why should those who work for the taxpayers have better wages and benefits than those in the private sector? You sound like a liberal communist.
Hmmm ? Since facts aren't necessary....you're a cross-dressing 6"6' transsexual, right ? That's just as "factual" as your vomit....

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Let me get this right. Your "dad" worked 32 years, then became a burden on society ? Do the math 18+32=50. He's now either 75 or 73 years old, depending on how well your medications are "working"...(working get it) So, your "deadbeat dad" has been supported by US for 41-43 years ??? Geez, no wonder our country is in trouble.....

Hard working "grove" family...
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This is the best my life gets, I have nothing else to do but find any typos I can find, just wish I didnt make so many as I cannot spell IT, left, or too. Where is my welfare check?
Seattle SLEW

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Yeah, we know jw. You're losing "rational" arguments, so "LET THE GAMES BEGIN"... HOW MATURE ???
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Unions suck.

It's just that simple.

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pauline 2 wrote:
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Minnesota pays a living wage. negosiated over many years and they earn every dime.
You sound like some Walkerite Republican with hate for anyone who could make middle class.
You must be rich or believing you are.
Don't you love that no matter how hard you work that you will get paid the same as the slacker next to you?

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Don't you love that no matter how hard you work that you will get paid the same as the slacker next to you?
No-one's a loser...everyone's a winner!

“Hope & change in 2012”

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<quoted text>No-one's a loser...everyone's a winner!
I certainly am hoping that was simply a tongue-in-cheek comment.

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Look at Greece to see what happens when public unions go out of control.
Seattle SLEW

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Look at America and see CEO salaries outta control.....That disparity between the U.S. ratio of 263-to-1 and the Japanese ratio of 16-to-1 is obscene enough. Especially to American workers who “are taking home less in real weekly wages than they took home in the 1970s.”

But slice-and-dice the numbers and there’s another disquieting fact. For every dollar that American workers make, American CEOs take home $263. Japanese CEOs take home less than one-sixth of that. One-sixth of $263 is $43.83; let’s round that down to $43. The average Japanese worker makes one-sixteenth of that, which is $2.69.

In other words, the average Japanese worker makes more than two-and-a-half times what the average American worker makes.

And it’s not only American workers who are getting screwed by runaway CEO compensation:

In fact, a study released late last year by researchers Raghavendra Rau and Huseyin Gulen of Purdue University and Michael J. Cooper of the University of Utah that surveyed the performance of 1,500 companies between 1994 and 2006 found that “lavish CEO compensation may in fact undermine shareholder wealth.” The researchers concluded that “the 10 percent of companies with the most highly paid CEOs earned unusually low returns in both the near- and long-term.”

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Don't you love that no matter how hard you work that you will get paid the same as the slacker next to you?
In non union jobs that slacker is the bosses son. or some friend who can't get a real job. And his pay comes out of my pay aas I have no power to get him off the job and get my value.

I have worked with unions and without them, with is better, someone actually trains the idiot next to me so he is no longer an idiot.

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In non union jobs that slacker is the bosses son. or some friend who can't get a real job. And his pay comes out of my pay aas I have no power to get him off the job and get my value.
I have worked with unions and without them, with is better, someone actually trains the idiot next to me so he is no longer an idiot.
BS the slacker gets fired and gets a union job.
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JTY wrote:
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BS the slacker gets fired and gets a union job.
Sorry pal, the only union slackers are ALLOWED by management. LACKEYS ... Does hamburger taste better, than steak ? Just wondering.....

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