1988 April Tinsley Murder To Be America's Most Wanted Profile Case

The Fort Wayne Watcher wrote:

I would take their word for it. Because if they didn't pass the DNA test, would they be here to post? No, they would be in jail. You're 23 years old and raising children. Surly even you can figure this out.
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I know,, it's just that Suzie went on a little comment spree..She was so eager to take a strangers word...
BTW, I was being sarcastic! Surely you can figure that out.....

Ok…back to the one person who deserves our full attention, compassion and resources…April Marie Tinsley

An innocent child who was happily skipping along in her own neighborhood with the excitement of the upcoming Easter Holiday and all its festivities swirling through her young mind…Until the worst of the worst drives up and snatches her from her happy environment…

This happens WAY to much in this country and to think that this sick monster has been allowed to laugh, gulp our sweet air, and sing out unrestricted about his crimes against humanity for the last twenty some years is beyond comprehension…

We must continue to pursue him!

Okay, so let me get this straight.. Tommy and or whoever, Thinks it could be a family member? and were they the ones that were posting on Youtube that the family could care less...But they're friends of the family.?? I'm so confused!!

Video Guy wrote:

Ok…back to the one person who deserves our full attention, compassion and resources…April Marie Tinsley
An innocent child who was happily skipping along in her own neighborhood with the excitement of the upcoming Easter Holiday and all its festivities swirling through her young mind…Until the worst of the worst drives up and snatches her from her happy environment…
This happens WAY to much in this country and to think that this sick monster has been allowed to laugh, gulp our sweet air, and sing out unrestricted about his crimes against humanity for the last twenty some years is beyond comprehension…
We must continue to pursue him!

I'll drink to that!! and believe me after the day I've had I could enjoy a margarita and some relaxation.

amb3rfaith wrote:

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I know,, it's just that Suzie went on a little comment spree..She was so eager to take a strangers word...
BTW, I was being sarcastic! Surely you can figure that out.....

amb3rfaith
I just think if we expect respect we need to give a little, I relate to people better on a conversation level rather than confrontations,discussion and working issues out amicibly is truly my preference but at the same time I'm no pushover when it comes to standing my ground and I do not allow others to influence my opinion, I am my own person, Suzie just went off on another little comment spree.

amb3rfaith wrote:

I'm also upset that this kind of behavior is happening on this this kind of forum! Which only leaves me to speculate that the person or persons acting this way is/are a sociopath/psychopath (w/ever u wanna call it).. and everyone knows Aprils killer is ...(say with me now)... a sociopath.... good! hmmmmm??....
Tommy Emailed me first. Wanting me to call him. I don't really like talking to strangers in person... So I tried to see if he could just talk to me thru Email..I then told him that because of a passed experience with somebody(which I cannot talk about at all on here!) that I would need his info to make sure he wasn't a troll or the killer..He got upset and I dropped it!
You know the killer could be reading this forum,(that saying you're not the killer?) but who knows?...
Which brings me to another reason I'm ticked. It was completely unnecessary to post my full name. I have nothing to do with anything here! You can call me hypocritical all you want, but mine was innocent I really didn't think anyone would see it! I have children and I just don't want the killer or some perv to see my real name.. and plus I didn't want Paul to know that was me because, I wrote that stuff before I knew how they felt about this subject, and I was never able to delete those post..I tried!
You see, After I became friends Paul was when I got real curious about it. That's when I stumbled upon TOPIX and VG's theory. Then I had a friend tell me that they linked that blanket to the motel she worked in.. after that was when HA came into play, then there was the "somebody" I was talking to... Oh yea, and I just went on a 4 hr road trip with Nick Bowker to a concert, Yea Sarah's brother. I'm friends with him too .. My fiance'use to work with him..and they hit off ever since. It's weird even when I wanna be done with this, it always comes back! and I'm sure theirs more I'm leaving out...
BTW, it's not that I wanna be done with it, It's that I'm respecting other peoples wishes.. I still have my Email tho...:).. So you can go ahead and say whatever you want...You don't get to me what so ever.. I'm going to go back to my life now, prey for justice and just keep myself updated on it.
I don't see why you guys dislike VG so much? He's not some perv.. He actually has good reason as to why he gets into these cases.. He isn't doing any harm to the Tinsleys.. He's just a man that looks for justice! How does that saying go again VG? "Evil prevails if the good guys fail"? This man only has good intentions, and if you believe in god, then I suggest asking for forgiveness! Because you're hating on one of his Angels!
Think about that!

SWEET! It is refreshing to hear positive comments about VG, you just need to get used to him as I did, his bark is worse than his bite, he is a decent person, he's on a mission thats all.

VG
Do you have an email address or would you prefer not to post it on the thread?

Someone else said he was attacked at a gas station, and both Tommy and Friends of Tinsley corrected that. Why is that hard to understand? He never said gas station. Someone else did, and they were corrected. Twice. Now you have been replied to about this with the same information. Twice. Do we need to go 3 for 3?

Lunatics among us wrote:

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It's been said that Justice was threatened both at a gas station AND then someone else saying at a bar. Now which is it???

CybersuzieQ wrote:

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SWEET! It is refreshing to hear positive comments about VG, you just need to get used to him as I did, his bark is worse than his bite, he is a decent person, he's on a mission thats all.

I've Been talking to Video Guy since the beginning of this Forum.. We had to start talking thru Email because of some drama with the H.A. thing.... Have you been reading my post? lol... I know he's a good man with the best intentions , Just wish others could see that as well...

Did I say you ran a background check? No, I said A.R. sent a email trying to get his information sating it was for you to run a background check. I did not say you ran one. Please re-read my post.

He has many cars. I think he had every right to be upset, considering the fact that you were telling people where he lived. How would you feel. From your post you were not interested, you were blaming. Read you post. How would you have reacted to those posts? Answer the question honestly.

Video Guy wrote:

<quoted text>I never ran a background check...you are full of it. But, being that there is a killer on the loose I probably should have.
<quoted text>I never posted his address...Over the phone he told me he drove a Mercedes, I had no clue he lied and really drove a van. I was interested in the van that was parked near his house and by a garage that had a room above it....then Tommy snapped!

Well reading his posts it's hard to see that. I'm sure you know that H.A. has been cleared.

amb3rfaith wrote:

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I've Been talking to Video Guy since the beginning of this Forum.. We had to start talking thru Email because of some drama with the H.A. thing.... Have you been reading my post? lol... I know he's a good man with the best intentions , Just wish others could see that as well...

Tommy has never said he thought it was a family member.

amb3rfaith wrote:

Okay, so let me get this straight.. Tommy and or whoever, Thinks it could be a family member? and were they the ones that were posting on Youtube that the family could care less...But they're friends of the family.?? I'm so confused!!

Agree!

Video Guy wrote:

Ok…back to the one person who deserves our full attention, compassion and resources…April Marie Tinsley
An innocent child who was happily skipping along in her own neighborhood with the excitement of the upcoming Easter Holiday and all its festivities swirling through her young mind…Until the worst of the worst drives up and snatches her from her happy environment…
This happens WAY to much in this country and to think that this sick monster has been allowed to laugh, gulp our sweet air, and sing out unrestricted about his crimes against humanity for the last twenty some years is beyond comprehension…
We must continue to pursue him!

See? This is just one of your silly bullpucky posts you write when you get mad and don't know what to do.

I have never lied. Find a lie. Look into the shhoting. You know the cross streets, and it would be easy to check that out.

Did I say I had abused pictures of April? There are pictures posted of her on web sites looking horribly sad. Dark circles under her eyes. Lonely and empty. These you can view for yourself. Did I said I had pictures of an abused April? No I did not. In no way, shape or form. It is YOU sir, who is the liar here. Show me where *I* said I had abused pictures of April.

I did go ahead and repost your removed messages to prove I was not making it up. I removed the addresses you put in. Again, proving *I* was not the liar.

He ownes more then one car. Most people do. You said van-parked right next to his house. Those were your exact words. Do you deny this?

*MY* posts were not not deleted. Nor were anyone elses. Only yours.

Why anyone listens to you is beyond me. I reposted YOUR messages, with the addresses removed to showthe it was YOU who were doing. Yet you still deny it. I try to ask you to focus on the case, yet YOU refuse to and just try to shift everyones focus on other things.

I show proof that I did not lie, and then you call me a liar. I there a fricking gas leak in your house or something? A medication you should be on? I just don't get it. I do not understand why you will not stop calling people liars when they PROVE what you said is not truel I don't understand why you take to focus off this case on 3 different message forums. I don't understand why you try to hard to cause fights in these forums. Why? Why don't you just answer why? Or shut up and help for once?

Video Guy wrote:

<quoted text>You have told many lies here...you think just because you post it we are to believe you...OK prove this happened!
I have yet to see the so called abused pictures of April you say you have
<quoted text>of course not because it shows your guilt and lies.
<quoted text>I NEVER said it like that, you lie again...I said for them to "watch it", Than they post military historys, than the names...only then, they are threatened to be sued...but if you remove your posts than you can say anything you wish...why remove your post...because you a guilty...that is why
<quoted text>I never used Tommys name...another continued lie
<quoted text>Remember the discussion about how google address were wrong...I never posted his address and did not know what house was his
<quoted text>He lied about his car...he told me he drove a Mercedes(recorded phone conversation)...after that lie he is fair game since many kidnappers DO drive vans...vans with bondage tools in them
<quoted text>How clever...just like Aprils killer
<quoted text>She was and I read it
<quoted text>Prove this shooting...like the pictures, the spy, and the arrest that would soon be made...amongst most every thing else you say
<quoted text>questioning you and Tommy is solving it... Why do you remove your own assaulting posts, contact the Tinsleys and tell them who knows what, and continue to attack us
<quoted text>WHAT! no one has cleared him...all we have is his friends and family saying he has been cleared.
Listen...we do not want Tommy or you in here, you people are constant bullshitters...we will wait for a good neighborhood contact to come along.

I see no one wants to challenge this post where it clearly shows you were responsible for all of the bad behavior you were accused of and it was not lies. It's all right here in black and what. These were YOUR POSTS VIDEO GUY! Yet you STILL called me a liar! Why? How? How can you call me a liar in the face of your very own posts? Your posts, the ones that were deleted. Why would you, in the face of this proof?

I'll tell you why, because you are still trying to lie to these people! I'm sick of it. The only one who lies around here is you. The proof is RIGHT here.

The Fort Wayne Watcher wrote:

Ok, WHO thinks this type of post is acceptable? As you can see from your post Video Guy, you did tell people EXACTLY where he lived. How to get there, and made some nasty accusations. THIS is the stuff that must stop if this forum is going to work. How can you call anyone a liar about this stuff when it's right here? This is what Topix removed. I blanked out the street names.
Video Guy wrote:
One thing about google street view is it gives one the ability to walk up and down a street in another town almost like you are there. Recently I have been walking around the streets near @@@@ Park. I have no doubt that April played at this park, it is only two blocks from her home on Williams St. and the closest. I’ve been up and down Hoagland all the way to the tracks, down @@@@, and this morning up and down Prince St….looking for anything unusual. This morning while walking down @@@ce St. I seen something that is unusual and I have never seen before. It is a two-story garage away from the house with a room above. A place someone could take a kidnapped child remove her from the vehicle and hold her upstairs without anyone seeing, or knowing.
The house is located right on the corner of @@@@ and @@@@ St. on the southeast corner. Type in 423 @@@ St., Fort Wayne, IN. This will take you to the corner of @@@ and @@@@.(I know the numbers are off but this will take you there)
Take the little man and place him on the google flag for this address, than walk south down @@@@ while looking to the east…The garage faces @@@@ St. that is behind the house that faces @@@@ St. on the corner.
I would think April and her friend who lived on @@@ St. walked past this house dozens of times while on their way to @@@@ park to play.
Video Guy
Glendale Heights, IL <http://www.topix.com/forum/city/glendale-heig... -
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On the other side of @@@@ St. from this house there is a van parked right next to your house... whose van is it?
Video Guy
Glendale Heights, IL <http://www.topix.com/forum/city/glendale-heig... ;
you know...the one that can be driven by the tracks as a child is molested and killed....that one!
Video Guy
Glendale Heights, IL
Thursday Nov 5
Lets look at this... The G___ngs are pretty much slum lords the in that part of town...do they feel their renters subservient...their children expendable??
they are all here...the two on @@@@ st... the one on Williams St.
You accuse me of hacking and attacks...WTF..paranoid are we?...tell you what, open you command promt and type in "netstat -n", depending on you OS, your dynamic IP will scroll along with all your open ports...
You have no clue what I'm about...and either you are good peoples...or the scum of the earth...The Skackles of Fort Wayne
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VG, You have no right to talk to or about anyone here like this. No right at all. No one did anything to you to deserve this. It is just shameful. Can you take responsibility for saying this, and not call people liars because they point out you said it? It's right there in black and white. Then we can all ust forgive and forget and move forward to SOLVE this.
PLEASE!

This is the lasttime I will address this. I can see that you are slow. He has never lied to you. He, like myself and many Americans owned more then one car. A Mercedes, with little windshield wipers for the headlights. He also had a wheelchair van for his mother.
But he had no car when April was killed because he did not drive.
He did not tell you he was confronted by RLW in a gas station. He told you a bar, and Friend of Tinsleys told you a bar as well.
He told you what Aprils cousin told HIM, had happened to April. You already have the cousins name. No one has disputed that this is the source of the information. No one even knows if it's true, because it was something told to him by April's cousin.
YOU are not squeemish about details. In your videos you talk about a 12 year old in detail. Being cut, sodomized with a tire iron, having windex sprayed into her cuts, and gasoline poured over her and set on fire. I'm sure if I could have stomached more you your disgusting discription, and I turned it off. It was sick. He had a private conversation with you about what he had been told happened to this child, and why the killer needed caught. You told the world in a video you distributed on Youtube that a 12 year old was sodomized with a tire iron. So don't you dare tell me you have a problem with the details. You seem to relish putting them out there on the web. If I had a child and that had happened to her, and I found out you made a video about it, I would do whatever I could to stop you from publishing such sick stuff.
April's parents have said that their daughter did not know the girl that lived in the house he used to own.
He was 3 miles away at work at the time people say she was taken. Though I noticed it went from 3:00 to 4 or 4:30 now. Why is that? EIther way, He was at work,3 miles away. Then he was picked up by his brother. Then he was with many other people the whole weekend, except when he went into the bathroom. He was 26 and living in his family home atthe time because his father worked 3rd shift, and his mother had had 5 hear attacks. Someone needed to be there. He was the only one out of his brothers and sisters who wasn't married. It made sense that he would be the one to stay and make sure she was ok. But I'll go back to another one of your points. He owned several houses. He didn't have to live at home with mom, if that's what you were trying to lead up to. He could have lived in one of the houses he owned, but he took care of his sick mother instead. Because he loved his family.
He was never alone. There was always someone there. Many people will swear to it. But they don't have to, because he is not a The flyers were put outfor a long time. Years.
Why you insist on trying to make an innocent man sound guilty is sick and wrong. All it does is cause long, argumentive post in here. It get's nothing solved. So why don't you just drop it?
I'm not going to go away just because you told me to. Someone has to be here to regulate you. You go unchecked and post crap. Just total crap. You do it on other forums too, because I have seen the posts. So knock it off and work on solving this, not puting the blame on someone who has worked far harder on this then you, and who is NOT bothering you.
You are the one who says he lied to you on the phone, but if those were the lies, as you can see, he didn't.
Move ON.

Wow. Here it is. Page 173. Tommy did NOT say he was attacked at a gas station. He ust says what the relative said to him. So can this now be put to rest?

Justice Is Comin wrote:

<quoted text>Mike and Janet have given DNA. And polygraphs.Maybe now they need to be given a new polygraph test.Alot has been said over the years.the person that wanted to throw down with me from their family had told me he arrived shortly before April was abducted.From Texas, he said he was driving a beat up blue pick up truck.Told me to leave the case alone, Just leave it the Fu2k alone, I just got out of prison, leave it the fu@k alone.The cops towed my truck in when it broke down.He claims he was question by police about Aprils case, and he had given the police a DNA sample.He then tells his aunt and uncle the results were 1 in 1000, I ask them you mean 1 in 1,000,000 they said no, he said 1 in 1000. In 1988 I would think that would have been as close to a match as possible.When talking to the investigator, he said he never heard of this person before.Didnt surprise me.Some people in this area were saying that 3 different states of Indiana, Michigan , Texas plate.Footnote he called his sister from Florida the other day and wants to come back to Indiana.

Right here, this insinuating stuff with her, is not a game you want to play. Tommy may have left and doesn't want to hear another thing about you. But do you think that everyone is going to? How about I let her know you are implying she is collecting a man's DNA in such a way, throwing off the investigation while trying to frame another and closing this case, leaving the real killer to walk free? Do you know what would happen then? Any idea at all? Even a guess?

Video Guy wrote:

<quoted text>And you are no longer credible
<quoted text>This is interesting, Tommy told me the police harassed him for putting up posters back in 2004 and it was then that THEY requested his DNA…soon after, the notes with the supposed killers DNA start to show up. I have stated in this forum that it would be impossible for the DNA in the letters to be anyone’s, except April’s killer. Time to reconsider… a woman could easily collect a mans DNA in such a way, throwing off the investigation while trying to frame another and closing this case, leaving the real killer to walk free. If the real killer had inside information and knew/thought there was no DNA obtained he would gladly give his.
I have also posted months ago before any of you people entered this forum that I think the person who wrote on the barn had inside information, or he would not have known the police were not called after the first writing, or the second…but than stops at the third…when it was reported.
BTW…the vehicle used is in question or else the FBI and AMW would have included it in their description of this crime.
<quoted text>Yes…lets point a finger over there…”Don’t you dare question us!”

I told her and she laughed and said she didn't care. I think that might be scarier then if she had reacted to it.

The Fort Wayne Watcher wrote:

Well reading his posts it's hard to see that. I'm sure you know that H.A. has been cleared.
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Well I kinda figure he did... I wasn't told whether or not he did, because my family stopped talking me about it.. Really they haven't talk to me at all since the H.A. incident....