Illegal immigrants can get driver's licenses easily in NM

Jan 29, 2012 Full story: The Daily Courier 580

J.R. Oppenheim/The Associated Press This house in Albuquerque, N.M., was reportedly used by 66 foreign nationals as their residential address to obtain a New Mexico driver's license.

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Junior

United States

#251 May 22, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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And we may have to do it again if the Mexican people don't get their own house in order.
Americans are already destroying Mexico by proxy, with their money for illicit drugs and exportation of guns to the drug cartels.

Since: May 10

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#252 May 22, 2012
Junior wrote:
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Americans are already destroying Mexico by proxy, with their money for illicit drugs and exportation of guns to the drug cartels.
The Left always blames America and Americans first for other nation's problems.

Which is only one reason I despise the Left.

Since: May 10

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#253 May 22, 2012
wingersoccer wrote:
Some of the amnesty programs have rewarded illegals who have been here several years, have families, have a house, have a job, have NOT broken the law, etc.
Ha what a joke.
They either drive without license and insurance or they obtain license through deception. So right away, there are laws broken.
I say we keep deporting
Not to mention they broke the law by coming here and staying here illegally in the first place.

I'm sick and tired of people saying that we can't deport them all.

"Yes We Can!"

“A Nation of Legal Immigrants”

Since: Nov 07

Lake City Florida,/ Nebraska

#254 May 22, 2012
fmer505-1951 wrote:
<quoted text>Obama doesn't need

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Junior

United States

#255 May 22, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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The Left always blames America and Americans first for other nation's problems.
Which is only one reason I despise the Left.
The sting of truth, hath make most men cower.
spud

Bronx, NY

#256 May 22, 2012
Nope wrote:
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you know nothing of our state. With much ballyhoo and baloney our current republican administration in an appeal to gullible goobers like yourself, investigated and came up with nothing.
Now quit lying and don't post on matters for which you are uninformed.
Of course I know your state. Ipicked up a nice girl in Albuquerque and she explained it all to me. I'm what you call an authority.
Huat Wiener

United States

#257 May 22, 2012
spud wrote:
<quoted text>Of course I know your state. Ipicked up a nice girl in Albuquerque and she explained it all to me. I'm what you call an authority.
A lot of those "nice girls" in NM are actually transformers. But you may already know this.
spud

Bronx, NY

#258 May 22, 2012
Huat Wiener wrote:
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A lot of those "nice girls" in NM are actually transformers. But you may already know this.
What's that?

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#259 May 22, 2012
ILLEGALS should NOT have NM drivers licenses!
Here LEGALLY, welcome!
Here ILLEGALLY, GTH out!
Don't reward criminals with Amnesty!
NO AMNESTY - EVER!!!!!

ALSO vote out of office in 2012, these traitors in the NM legislators who filed suit against Governor Martinez to have the 10,000 residency checks declared illegal and halted:

- Miguel Garcia (D-Abq) sponsor of the original legislation that allowed ILLEGALS to obtain NM DLs
- Howie Morales (D-Silver City)
- Gerald Ortiz y Pino (D- Abq)
- Elisio Alcón (D-Milan)

Then vote out of office every other traitor in the legislator who backed ILLEGALS getting NM DLs.
Repubs

Los Alamos, NM

#260 May 22, 2012
spud wrote:
<quoted text>Of course I know your state. Ipicked up a nice girl in Albuquerque and she explained it all to me. I'm what you call an authority.
Was it the guv? How much did she charge? didjer make her dress up like a little girl? Was wiener the M.C.? How much did you charge him?
JULIO

Dallas, TX

#261 May 28, 2012
Listen everone calm done now. They point of this is that a driver license is a human right that must not be deny! What are you going to say next time then maybe the poor immigrant is not allow to take breaths of air? Who are you pigs to decide this!
Michael

Omaha, NE

#262 May 28, 2012
JULIO wrote:
Listen everone calm done now. They point of this is that a driver license is a human right that must not be deny! What are you going to say next time then maybe the poor immigrant is not allow to take breaths of air? Who are you pigs to decide this!
Gee I don't know. What do you say to an American family having lost a family member to an illegal alie border jumper behind the wheel with no insurance and/or registration or better yet in a stolen vehicle?
that

Santa Fe, NM

#263 May 28, 2012
Michael wrote:
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What do you say

?
you are gullible and are easily punked.
Michael

Kansas City, MO

#264 May 28, 2012
that wrote:
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you are gullible and are easily punked.
No my family suffered a death due to an illegal alien border who shouldn't have been driving. No insurance, stolen vehicle and guess who paid the price, we did.
Bedrock Bob

United States

#266 May 28, 2012
Abominable Sock Puppet wrote:
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My condolences to your family member.
My cousin was ran over and killed by a white guy on drugs. Should we get rid of all white people to fix the problem?
After all, if the white guy was not in the USA, my cousin would not have died. RIGHT?
I really like your analogy! Good job!

My cousin was attacked by Africanized bees. We should think about denying them driving priveleges and maybe they will fly back to Africa!

New Mexico has fewer illegal aliens now than when we began giving them driving priveleges. And states that have revoked their driving priveleges have not seen a significant reduction in numbers as a result. The issue is purely ideological and does NOTHING to address border problems in any way.

The policy of giving them a license that does not identify them as illegal or differentiate them from a US Citizen is stupid, and in my opinion needs to be changed. But the issue of driving priveleges is nothing but a political wedge issue designed to divide us into one herd of sheep or the other.

Sure, most people here think the policy is screwed for one reason or the other and I am behind changing it. But it is not an issue that most New Mexians feel is near and dear to their lives or that will make a big difference. The only ones clamoring for changes in the law are the few big mouthed partisans. The balance of the 70% are normal, level headed citizens that see the law has been implemented poorly and want to see it fixed.

I thought there were several good compromises offered and most of them addressed the problem of illegals being falsely indentified as a citizen. That would have beena great step in the right direction. But partisan infighting has killed any chance of progress and given us this unsolvable problem that is absorbing millions of dollars and yeilding the people NOTHING in return.

Just politicians sticking it to the public and refusing to do their jobs.

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque

#267 May 30, 2012
Psst. It's easy to get fake licenses. They match you up with someone else who has the same description. The fakes cost about $15 to make but sell for $300-$400. They are not identical but are very, very hard to detect, and very few people have ever gone to prison for selling them.

So it doesn't really matter whether we officially issue licenses to undocumented people. The argument is heated because there's great symbolism on both sides of the issue. Ultimately it's about as important as whether the Broncos or the Cowboys are better. Yaay team.

Anyone who tells you different most likely believes we're effectively stopping people from importing, distributing, buying, growing, or smoking pot. Those laws (and the ones against immigrants) help stupid people sleep better at night and provide good paying jobs to people in law enforcement, but are otherwise useless at best.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

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#268 May 30, 2012
walterfm wrote:
Psst. It's easy to get fake licenses. They match you up with someone else who has the same description. The fakes cost about $15 to make but sell for $300-$400. They are not identical but are very, very hard to detect, and very few people have ever gone to prison for selling them.
Nice deflection but you forgot that our DL's have 21 different security featured in them. They are hard to detect because LE and the court system refuse to look closely and use those features which we all pay for.

Since: Dec 10

Albuquerque

#269 May 30, 2012
CornDogz wrote:
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Nice deflection but you forgot that our DL's have 21 different security featured in them. They are hard to detect because LE and the court system refuse to look closely and use those features which we all pay for.
So you agree that simply making things illegal doesn't make them go away? Wow. I think you're making progress after all.

“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#270 May 30, 2012
walterfm wrote:
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So you agree that simply making things illegal doesn't make them go away? Wow. I think you're making progress after all.
Correct, and why I've said earlier that w/o enforcement of our laws, nothing will change with respect to ILLEGALS or anything else. And with the Obama refusing to enforce the very laws he swore an oath to uphold, along with Holder and others, the outlook is grim. If they did hold true to their word then this would pretty much be a non issue. However it started before the Obama and those jokers were just as much to blame for our present travesty as is the Obama. But he's the jefe now and its up to him to fix, which he refuses to do.

Bringing it to the local level where this thread is so I'm back on topic, Richardson and DoNothingDenish are to blame along with the legislature for non enforcement of our NMDL laws and the influx of ILLEGALS in NM for that very reason - NMDL's for all. The former two are gone, now we have to oust the remaining vermin in the legislature. Not just for the NMDL/ILLEGAL BS but for numerous other reason besides. NM needs a fresh start and deserves better.

Since: May 10

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#271 May 30, 2012
Making things illegal doesn't make them go away when the government authorities who are sworn to uphold the law break their vow and refuse to do so.

The laws must be enforced. If that means mass deportations, let them begin today.

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