Jesus is a LOSER

politics and religion,two arguements that are never going to be won.
now....sports.

you will see the devil is real when you go to hell

If people really wants to live in a better world, it certainly have to get rid of that stupid 'You're a loser, I'm a winner' attitude. It just shows their insecurities.

3vid3nc3 wrote:

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I don't have a gospel, that is the point!

Hope you like fire on you.

Ugh No, Air can be proved that it is there, Jesus the fa-ggot Christ can not. Thanks kbye.

It can be proved Jesus was here its recorded in a lot more books than the Bible. He's as real as the ass your sitting on. You can't see WiFi buy I bet you belive it exists

Dan Hallen wrote:

It can be proved Jesus was here its recorded in a lot more books than the Bible. He's as real as the ass your sitting on. You can't see WiFi buy I bet you belive it exists

...ok, actually name one historical book (not religious) or writing that talks about Jesus of Galilee...
Google hard now!

name em wrote:

<quoted text>...ok, actually name one historical book (not religious) or writing that talks about Jesus of Galilee...
Google hard now!

...btw, I'm speaking of the history writers of that time...

Cornelius Tacitus
Tacitus lived from A.D. 55 to A.D. 120. He was a Roman historian and has been described as the greatest historian of Rome, noted for his integrity and moral uprightness. His most famous works are the Annals and the Histories. The Annals relate the historical narrative from Augustus’ death in A.D.14 to Nero’s death in A.D. 68. The Histories begin their narrative after Nero’s death and finish with Domitian’s death in A.D. 96. In his section describing Nero’s decision to blame the fire of Rome on the Christians, Tacitus affirms that the founder of Christianity, a man he calls Chrestus (a common misspelling of Christ, which was Jesus’ surname), was executed by Pilate, the procurator of Judea during the reign of the Roman emperor Tiberias. Tacitus was hostile to Christianity because in the same paragraph he describes Christus’ or Christ’s death, he describes Christianity as a pernicious superstition. It would have therefore been in his interests to declare that Jesus had never existed, but he did not, and perhaps he did not because he could not without betraying the historical record.

Lucian of Samosata
Lucian was a Greek satirist of the latter half of the second century. He therefore lived within two hundred years of Jesus. Lucian was hostile to Christianity and openly mocked it. He particularly objected to the fact that Christians worshipped a man. He does not mention Jesus’ name, but the reference to the man Christians worship is a reference to Jesus.

Suetonius
Suetonius was a Roman historian and a court official in Emperor Hadrian’s government. In his Life of Claudius he refers to Claudius expelling Jews from Rome on account of their activities on behalf of a man Suetonius calls Chrestus [another misspelling of Christus or Christ].

Pliny the Younger
Pliny was the Governor of Bithynia in Asia Minor (AD. 112). He was responsible for executing Christians for not worshipping or bowing down to a statue of the emperor Trajan. In a letter to the emperor Trajan, he describes how the people on trial for being Christians would describe how they sang songs to Christ because he was a god.

Thallus and Phlegon
Both were ancient historians and both confirmed the fact that the land went dark when Jesus was crucified. This parallels what the Bible said happened when Jesus died.

Mara Bar-Serapion
Some time after 70 A.D., Mara Bar-Sarapion, who was probably a Stoic philosopher, wrote a letter to his son in which he describes how the Jews executed their King. Claiming to be a king was one of the charges the religious authorities used to scare Pontius Pilate into agreeing to execute Jesus.

Josephus
Josephus was a Jewish historian who was born in either 37 or 38 AD and died some time after 100 AD. He wrote the Jewish Antiquites and in one famous passage described Jesus as a wise man, a doer of wonderful works and calls him the Christ.

these are vague references to a name that wasn't uncommon, they never specifically wrote about a Jesus Christ who people think really existed as written in the christian bible, they wrote quite a bit about the era in which they lived (only two, the roman and greek actually lived at the time but vaguely mention some "man" in one passage?, please) but you want to base this as proof? I think if the stories written about jesus where true and a man actually did the things he did, it would be in every historical document from those times, wouldn't you?

Henry your stupidity shines through again. It's a accepted fact among atheist and scholars that Christ was one of histories most important figures. No one will remember you a month after you die let alone millinia . The only written record on you is your police record.

Funny wrote:

If atheists do not believe in God, why do they spend so much time trying to make Christians doubt in God?

If Christians believe in God, why do they spend so much time making Athiests believe in God? >_>

I am god. not you biatch

According to today's standards, you are right, Jesus would be called a loser. He showed compassion to those who others chose to avoid, those who were sick, who had experienced pain and who had caused grief. He lived his life against the grain, causing those that considered themselves wise to be so confused because they had seen nothing like it. And it rocked their world, for the religious and non believers. It is not surprising that you have questions that are so difficult to comprehend, therefore it is easier to say it's not real, to explain it away in the limitations of what you have personally learned throughout your life. Thankfully he is so big, so complex and mysterious. And he doesn't force us to worship him, He wants us to choose to love him, thats why he gave us free will. Even if you don't believe in Jesus, you must admit He is not a bad standard to live up to. Showing LOVE on the midst of chaos to the most undeserving all while giving you the option to say you don't want it. I sincerely pray God shows himself so strong to you, that your eyes be open to him, and that you feel that love that only he can give.

Hope wrote:

According to today's standards, you are right, Jesus would be called a loser. He showed compassion to those who others chose to avoid, those who were sick, who had experienced pain and who had caused grief. He lived his life against the grain, causing those that considered themselves wise to be so confused because they had seen nothing like it. And it rocked their world, for the religious and non believers. It is not surprising that you have questions that are so difficult to comprehend, therefore it is easier to say it's not real, to explain it away in the limitations of what you have personally learned throughout your life. Thankfully he is so big, so complex and mysterious. And he doesn't force us to worship him, He wants us to choose to love him, thats why he gave us free will. Even if you don't believe in Jesus, you must admit He is not a bad standard to live up to. Showing LOVE on the midst of chaos to the most undeserving all while giving you the option to say you don't want it. I sincerely pray God shows himself so strong to you, that your eyes be open to him, and that you feel that love that only he can give.

....although I dont believe in gods and such, I agree that as humans, we all could learn from many of the different teachings from many religious text, most teach the concepts you mention, I base my on life and teach my children to have love and compassion for others no matter who or what they are and I myself focus on the less fortunate and those whose lives have took them down the wrong road, but I do it, not to worship some gods or fake idols (a strange concept to me in the modern era), but for the betterment of us as a human race, for my children's and their children's future..modern society, I fear is going in a wrong direction and I just don't think faith and prayers to a god is helping anyone, but those of greed and those who are power drunk. I respect your beliefs and applaud your compassion for fellow humans, and share those concepts, as many of us do, but just disagree with the ideas of gods and devils. Peace and love to you.

Thank you and to you as well.

3vid3nc3 wrote:

God and jesus are fake creations of the human mind! Even if they were real, NOBODY should be worshiping these losers! How insecure would god have to be to MAKE you praise and worship him?! If he loved us so much, and wanted to spread the word of his existance, why the HELL wouldnt he just do something OBVIOUS!!! Why go though the trouble of sending some random guy name jesus to earth 2000 years ago to spread the world to a few random poor, uneducated idiots, then have these morons write stories about it!?...i mean...if you actually believe this nonsense, then you are a RETARD! plain an simple!...no excuses what so ever!! come on people! the world would be a better and more productive place without all of this religous NONSENSE!! HECK, Even if this so called "god" was real, I would rather worship SATAN himself!...at lease he would let you have a good time during your life on earth!...uggghhh...anyway...th oughts?

WE hear you fool and when your soul is burning forever in Hell you wil beg for mercy and help but you wont get help and you will guaranted regret what you said

haha wrote:

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If Christians believe in God, why do they spend so much time making Athiests believe in God? >_>

Maybto try and save you from hell [Think]

If everyone followed the teachings of Christ, look how much better your life would be. You would have such a better quality of life. Even if you don't belive, I personally do, it wouldn't hurt to follow his example . I read in Modern Phsycology that a lot of atheist are raising there kids in the church, to instill morals , to have a sense of comunity and they even participate in praise and worship.

Dan Hallen wrote:

If everyone followed the teachings of Christ, look how much better your life would be. You would have such a better quality of life. Even if you don't belive, I personally do, it wouldn't hurt to follow his example . I read in Modern Phsycology that a lot of atheist are raising there kids in the church, to instill morals , to have a sense of comunity and they even participate in praise and worship.

...lmao, you follow "his" example? What a joke, you need psychological (and a spelling teacher) help dimwit, you know nothing of atheism, many of us raise our children (which you have none) with morals, values and compassion for our fellow human beings, something else you know nothing about, just read all your many post, especially when your talking to yourself, please get the help you need so desperately...