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COnfuSed

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Nov 11, 2009
 
Really wrote:
I don't know anyone involved or any inside information here, but I don't understand why everyone on here is defending the person who shot and killed someone. The article says he was swinging a bat and apparently destroying property outside the home. Sounds like he even broke a window. Doesn't seem to say that he was swinging it at Mr. Kirby's children or trying to break into the home, so how is deadly force (aka shooting) appropriate? You don't have the right to kill someone to defend your possessions. Whether or not Mr. Buttermore was wonderful or not, did he deserve to die?
It seems to me that when you arm yourself with a baseball bat during a confrontation and come onto someone else's property, swinging said bat, destroying everything within arms reach, you are certainly taking the chance that the property owner, fearing for his own life or the life of his family, might avail himself to a weapon of his own, and that weapon might be something other than a baseball bat. If you voluntarily put yourself into that situation, you have no one but yourself to blame for your actions. What was Mr. Kirby supposed to do, let Buttermore actually hit him with the bat before taking action?
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Nov 11, 2009
 
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This is CRAZY how are they gonna let that man in the free world after he aknowleged he shot and killed another man.I know what it is, he is a pu&&y **** White man that shot a black man. If it was the other way around we already know what the out come would be.If you can not agree with me and you are one of the people saying free KIRBY, you are SICK IN THE HEAD, come to reality. And my condolences go out to the Buttermore family.
I wondered how long it would be until someone played the race card. What do their races have to do with anything? I believe the story, as reported in the PO, was that Buttermore armed himself first, with a bat,and then Kirby, in response, armed himself with a firearm.
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Nov 11, 2009
 
You are the one calling a Kirby a PU**Y **** WHITE MAN (racists comment by YOU) then say "if it was the other way around things would have been different..." SOMEONE always try to make it about COLOR whenever a BLACK man is involved, the BLACK MAN decided to enter the WHITE MAN'S HOUSE. I think the outcome would have been the same even if he would have been WHITE and came into Kirby's house and made threats, Kirby still needed to protect his family and would have done the same thing, yeah seems someone has an issue with COLOR... YOU!
I can not believe this wrote:
This is CRAZY how are they gonna let that man in the free world after he aknowleged he shot and killed another man.I know what it is, he is a pu&&y **** White man that shot a black man. If it was the other way around we already know what the out come would be.If you can not agree with me and you are one of the people saying free KIRBY, you are SICK IN THE HEAD, come to reality. And my condolences go out to the Buttermore family.
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Nov 11, 2009
 
COnfuSed wrote:
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What does the name "Kirby" have to do with anything? I don't even know anyone named Kirby, but I don't think that equates to a "get out of jail free" card for someone. You make it sound like the guy is royalty or something. Didn't this shooting happen in a trailer park? I'm sure the people living there are not exactly among the most influential people in Franklin County. Can you cite examples of instances where having the name "Kirby" has let to people getting "slaps on the wrists" or other preferential treatment in the past?
I would hardly call it a trailer park. It is a community of well-kept manufactured homes. Mostly double-wide. Buttermore's home was a quad no less. In this part of the state people take great pride in their homes. If you look at online media photos of the two homes, you will see that Kirby's home was immaculate with neatly trimmed and mulched shrubbery. Buttermore's home, at one time, had a hog pen and bore a sign in front naming it "Hog Hollow."
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Nov 12, 2009
 
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There should have been a bail hearing months ago. This is ridiculous travesty. Now the D.A.'s office will offer a deal. Why would anyone take a deal that involve loss of liberties, including loss of gun ownership rights. It will interesting to learn what if Buttermore was under the influence of something. The best the D.A. will get will be a deadlocked jury. Their office likes to put the lowest common denominator on juries. No man gets a jury of his peers in this country.
"It will interesting to learn what if Buttermore was under the influence of something." He was if her was taking his prescribed anger medication. He either forgot to take it or it wasn't working.
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