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Franklin County district attorney downgrades charges in Mainsvi...

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A Southampton Township man who allegedly killed his neighbor during an argument in August remains in Franklin County Jail, held without bail, but a murder charge against him has been dropped, replaced by manslaughter charges.

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Grumpy Old Man

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Wednesday Nov 11
 
Sounds like the man was dealing with a lunatic! What should he have done? I say he equalized the playing field!!
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Wednesday Nov 11
 
Grumpy Old Man wrote:
Sounds like the man was dealing with a lunatic! What should he have done? I say he equalized the playing field!!
I might agree except for this sentence from the article: "According to police, Buttermore was shot in the back with a 12-gauge shotgun in the front yard of the Lindsey Lot Road home."
Cheeseburger in Paradise

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And now 12 of his peers will find Mr. Kirby not quilty of all charges. This was unfortunate but
the guilt lies at the hands of Mr. Buttermore. Any reasonable man would have done what Mr. Kirby did to protect his family.

Free Kirby!
A FRIEND

Woodbury, NJ

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I think CHAD should be left out of jail on time served.This has went on long enough.Those children need there DADDY they are only babies.
Scundoo

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This man should be given bail. Mr. Buttermore had a temper and a criminal history associated with fighting and drugs. He brought this upon himself.

As for back shooting, things like that happen when fractions of a second count. Violent people act before thinking. The dead man probably flinched at the last fraction of a second while the shooter had to decide what to do. This has happened many times before. A ball bat is a very deadly weapon. This case is a disgrace to Franklin County.

The former D.A.(RIP) might of known that if he had spent more time on work and less time in the clubs. His night-life affected his work and judgment. A lot of people knew that, but liked the guy. He was fun to drink with.
cameltoe

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Wednesday Nov 11
 
Good deal ! I think the charges should be lowered to dicharging a firearm in public no more than that.
Daisy

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This is very disturbing. The man was protecting himself and his family. As far as being shot in the back, he could have been turned sideways and that was the only shot he could get. I guess that will be up to the jury to decide, but the man should have received bail. I am a peaceful person, but if someone came on my property in a violent manner, I would protect my kids with any means possible.

With that said, I still offer my condolences to the victim's family.
pseudfortoday

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llll wrote:
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I might agree except for this sentence from the article: "According to police, Buttermore was shot in the back with a 12-gauge shotgun in the front yard of the Lindsey Lot Road home."
He was shot from the rear in the right flank. There is a big difference between "in the back" and "from the back>" If Kirby had intended to kill him he would have aimed higher.

Buttermore was had frequent fits of violent rage.

The ADA said there was not sufficient evidence to convict on a criminal homocide charge and I doubt that any jury will convict Kirby of felony manslaugher either. He will get out on bail as soon as there is a bail hearing and he reaises bail. He--not Buttermore--is the real victim in this matter.
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There should have been a bail hearing months ago. This is ridiculous travesty. Now the D.A.'s office will offer a deal. Why would anyone take a deal that involve loss of liberties, including loss of gun ownership rights. It will interesting to learn what if Buttermore was under the influence of something. The best the D.A. will get will be a deadlocked jury. Their office likes to put the lowest common denominator on juries. No man gets a jury of his peers in this country.
noway

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i can't believe you people! I was sitting here listening to the scanner when the call went in and heard the location of the shooting, i told my husband, "i bet it's a Kirby that did the shooting". And sure enough. Then when it came out in the paper i said "well he'll get a slap on the wrist all because he's a Kirby". Well i was right. The guy was shot in the back and did not have a gun. This is just the way it goes i guess, but only if your a Kirby. And yea maybe his kids do need him but what about the other guys kids you all don't think they need there father? It don't matter what he did in his past, a man lost his life that was unarmed! So go ahead and bust on my now...I know that a Kirby can't possible be in the wrong.
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sorry for the spelling mistakes just a little pissy about the whole thing. I just think it was all stupid and could have been avoided if people wouldn't act like babys over the stupid stuff in life. You know, the stuff don't REALLY matter?
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noway wrote:
i can't believe you people! I was sitting here listening to the scanner when the call went in and heard the location of the shooting, i told my husband, "i bet it's a Kirby that did the shooting". And sure enough. Then when it came out in the paper i said "well he'll get a slap on the wrist all because he's a Kirby". Well i was right. The guy was shot in the back and did not have a gun. This is just the way it goes i guess, but only if your a Kirby. And yea maybe his kids do need him but what about the other guys kids you all don't think they need there father? It don't matter what he did in his past, a man lost his life that was unarmed! So go ahead and bust on my now...I know that a Kirby can't possible be in the wrong.
He's a Kirby, not a Kennedy...
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I don't know anyone involved or any inside information here, but I don't understand why everyone on here is defending the person who shot and killed someone. The article says he was swinging a bat and apparently destroying property outside the home. Sounds like he even broke a window. Doesn't seem to say that he was swinging it at Mr. Kirby's children or trying to break into the home, so how is deadly force (aka shooting) appropriate? You don't have the right to kill someone to defend your possessions. Whether or not Mr. Buttermore was wonderful or not, did he deserve to die?

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Cheeseburger in Paradise wrote:
And now 12 of his peers will find Mr. Kirby not quilty of all charges. This was unfortunate but
the guilt lies at the hands of Mr. Buttermore. Any reasonable man would have done what Mr. Kirby did to protect his family.
Free Kirby!
Any reasonable man would have shot the guy in the back with a shotgun?

Glad I don't live in your neighborhood...
I can not believe this

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This is CRAZY how are they gonna let that man in the free world after he aknowleged he shot and killed another man.I know what it is, he is a pu&&y a&& White man that shot a black man. If it was the other way around we already know what the out come would be.If you can not agree with me and you are one of the people saying free KIRBY, you are SICK IN THE HEAD, come to reality. And my condolences go out to the Buttermore family.
Rob

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Sick-Tired wrote:
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Any reasonable man would have shot the guy in the back with a shotgun?
Glad I don't live in your neighborhood...
How he was shot in the back might've just been a coincidence...Buttermore might've turned around right AT that moment to get another weapon or something...and that's when he got shot.

If you had some crazed monkey tear up your place, rough you up, and threaten your family...I'd HOPE you would do anything you can to defend your family. I know I would.

Chad needs to get out of jail. Period.
scpa

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No kids 'need' to be around a murderer. They would be safer visiting him in prison.
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Wednesday Nov 11
 
And why has this case been dealt with so quickly? Another man, who shot his neighbor last year on Blue Spring Road, is still out free. What is taking so long? Forensics are still not back in that case? Sounds to me like someone is paying off those who make the decisions.
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I can not believe this wrote:
This is CRAZY how are they gonna let that man in the free world after he aknowleged he shot and killed another man.I know what it is, he is a pu&&y **** White man that shot a black man. If it was the other way around we already know what the out come would be.If you can not agree with me and you are one of the people saying free KIRBY, you are SICK IN THE HEAD, come to reality. And my condolences go out to the Buttermore family.
couldn't agree with you more.
COnfuSed

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noway wrote:
i can't believe you people! I was sitting here listening to the scanner when the call went in and heard the location of the shooting, i told my husband, "i bet it's a Kirby that did the shooting". And sure enough. Then when it came out in the paper i said "well he'll get a slap on the wrist all because he's a Kirby". Well i was right. The guy was shot in the back and did not have a gun. This is just the way it goes i guess, but only if your a Kirby. And yea maybe his kids do need him but what about the other guys kids you all don't think they need there father? It don't matter what he did in his past, a man lost his life that was unarmed! So go ahead and bust on my now...I know that a Kirby can't possible be in the wrong.
What does the name "Kirby" have to do with anything? I don't even know anyone named Kirby, but I don't think that equates to a "get out of jail free" card for someone. You make it sound like the guy is royalty or something. Didn't this shooting happen in a trailer park? I'm sure the people living there are not exactly among the most influential people in Franklin County. Can you cite examples of instances where having the name "Kirby" has let to people getting "slaps on the wrists" or other preferential treatment in the past?
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