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I have read some sites and the results are often in the eyes of the beholder.

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flbadcatowner wrote:
I have read some sites and the results are often in the eyes of the beholder.
And again, specifics are needed. The results aren't "in the eye of the beholder" they are in the Legitimate Peer Reviewed and Validated Evidence. Ducking and dodging isn't going to work. Either produce the sites or admit you don't know what you're talking about.

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Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>And again, specifics are needed. The results aren't "in the eye of the beholder" they are in the Legitimate Peer Reviewed and Validated Evidence. Ducking and dodging isn't going to work. Either produce the sites or admit you don't know what you're talking about.
And it is all in shades of gray and not black and white. For example, there are studies that seem to indicate that children raised by gays have higher suicide rates. Are studies like this any less believable than the ones sponsored by the politically correct crowd? You don't have anything even resembling a final conclusion on the issue.

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flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>And it is all in shades of gray and not black and white. For example, there are studies that seem to indicate that children raised by gays have higher suicide rates. Are studies like this any less believable than the ones sponsored by the politically correct crowd? You don't have anything even resembling a final conclusion on the issue.
No, that's shades of BS. You confuse certified and validated research that's recognized by the Medical and Psychological associations with crackpot science more closely affiliated with Paul Cameron and his ilk who were KICKED OUT for their shoddy, biased and unethical claims.

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flbadcatowner wrote:
I have read some sites and the results are often in the eyes of the beholder.
I agree. "Suggestive correlation" and "conclusive correlation" are not synonyms. Still, it is not the same as "negative correlation" or "no correlation".

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<quoted text>No, that's shades of BS. You confuse certified and validated research that's recognized by the Medical and Psychological associations with crackpot science more closely affiliated with Paul Cameron and his ilk who were KICKED OUT for their shoddy, biased and unethical claims.
Think what you want, but it is far from a settled issue. There have been allegations that the AMA and APA bend over backwards for the GLTB.

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flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>I did visit a website where the author made a similar observation of those on both sides of the issue.
Could you share that website???

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<quoted text>Think what you want, but it is far from a settled issue. There have been allegations that the AMA and APA bend over backwards for the GLTB.
Giant dodge!!!

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flbadcatowner wrote:
<quoted text>Think what you want, but it is far from a settled issue. There have been allegations that the AMA and APA bend over backwards for the GLTB.
There have been no LEGITIMATE allegations of such nonsense. Propaganda from NARTH and EXODUS International don't hold any water whatsoever, neither do the claims from religious right wing whackjobs. Being willfully stupid about such claims only lowers your "rep".

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Could you share that website???
He very simply doesn't have the balls. He dodges because he knows a sixth grader would tear it apart, presuming they could quit LAUGHING long enough to do so. It never ceases to amaze me how COWARDLY people like that actually are.

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<quoted text>Think what you want, but it is far from a settled issue. There have been allegations that the AMA and APA bend over backwards for the GLTB.
Of course those "allegations" only come from anti-gays who disagree with their findings.

Ooooh, big shocker there.

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<quoted text>Think what you want, but it is far from a settled issue. There have been allegations that the AMA and APA bend over backwards for the GLTB.
Of course there have, but mere allegation lacking substantive support ... well ...

It really is hard for the average person to remember that neither the AMA or APA are political organizations that can be influenced from the outside.

I suspect that they have guilty consciences for what many in their numbers did to us, most specifically over a 50 year period.

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I could not find that site, but I have an even better source to look at. Google the following: "Robert Lerner" "Althea Nagai" The kicker is that both of those people are Jewish and not fundamental Christians. Jewish people tend to be more liberal than the population in general (Obama got almost 80% of the vote against McCain in 2008 according to most exit polls). They take strong issue with the methodology of the studies supposedly showing that children of gay parents do as well as anybody else.

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I could not find that site, but I have an even better source to look at. Google the following: "Robert Lerner" "Althea Nagai" The kicker is that both of those people are Jewish and not fundamental Christians. Jewish people tend to be more liberal than the population in general (Obama got almost 80% of the vote against McCain in 2008 according to most exit polls). They take strong issue with the methodology of the studies supposedly showing that children of gay parents do as well as anybody else.
The woman from the "FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL" which is closely affiliated with the AFA a KNOWN anti-gay hate group.
http://holybulliesandheadlessmonsters.blogspo...
he book in question that Knight referred to, No Basis, was commissioned by the Marriage Law Project, a Washington-based group against gay marriage.

The point here is clear. Knight recklessly accuses legitimate medical organizations of having a bias but then thinks nothing of citing two researchers who are paid to conduct research for conservative groups - something that shows an actual bias.

Strictly amateur hour propaganda. Dismissed Easily.

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They are both politically motivated and always will be
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Of course there have, but mere allegation lacking substantive support ... well ...
It really is hard for the average person to remember that neither the AMA or APA are political organizations that can be influenced from the outside.
I suspect that they have guilty consciences for what many in their numbers did to us, most specifically over a 50 year period.

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They are both politically motivated and always will be
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And your Legitimate proof of that would be where again? Oh That's right, it doesn't exist.

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It is in anything you care to read about them
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<quoted text>And your Legitimate proof of that would be where again? Oh That's right, it doesn't exist.

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<quoted text> The woman from the "FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL" which is closely affiliated with the AFA a KNOWN anti-gay hate group.
http://holybulliesandheadlessmonsters.blogspo...
he book in question that Knight referred to, No Basis, was commissioned by the Marriage Law Project, a Washington-based group against gay marriage.
The point here is clear. Knight recklessly accuses legitimate medical organizations of having a bias but then thinks nothing of citing two researchers who are paid to conduct research for conservative groups - something that shows an actual bias.
Strictly amateur hour propaganda. Dismissed Easily.
Not enough proof? Try Ann Hulbert's "What do we know about the effects of same-sex parenting?" How about Judith Stacey's admission that the studies supporting same-sex parenting as having no adverse effects on children come from gay friendly researchers?

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Try google if you can figure out how it works. I see you still just have your typical knee-jerk reaction with absolutely no thought or effort.
Pagan and Proud wrote:
<quoted text>And your Legitimate proof of that would be where again? Oh That's right, it doesn't exist.

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It is in anything you care to read about them
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You are expecting too much from him if you expect him to read anything that isn't gay biased. BTW, did you see Aida Lott a.k.a. Mona Lott's new moniker? It is "Sue Wee" as in new moniker, but same old nonsense.

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