Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Once again, this is NOT a theocracy. And freedom of religion also means freedom from your sick twisted version of Christianity. From the way you people talk you want this country to to become just like the middle east where everyone is bound by old testement laws. Guess what, you would be put to death or jailed by your own standards. I could just get assylum in another country, but it will be fun to watch all of you hypocrite reaping the horrible seeds you have sewn, about 95% of you will die by your own hands
freedomfromyou.

Exactly. Proof of the fact that we are a Christian nation is evidenced by the fact that the Godless secularists are not given the choice between conversion and the sword. In fact, God himself subscribed to the need to give up those so predisposed to vile affections. According to the historical transcript:

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;" (Romans 1:18)

"Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them." (Romans 1:19)

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:" (Romans 1:20)

"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened." (Romans 1:21)

"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools," (Romans 1:22)

And, even more to the point:

"Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:" (Matthew 13:24)

"But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way." (Matthew 13:25)

"But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also." (Matthew 13:26)

"So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?" (Matthew 13:27)

"He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?" (Matthew 13:28)

"But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them." (Matthew 13:29)

"Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn." (Matthew 13:30)

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black men, asian men, hispanics... even white guys... I've blown my fair share of all of them here in Kansas. I haven't BJ'd an American Indian.... yet.
Good for you phaggasaurus. But no one was asking what your hobby was.
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Ronald wrote:
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According to the historical transcript:
You're kidding me? Right?

Did you ever see that movie Galaxy Quest?
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Exactly. Proof of the fact that we are a Christian nation is evidenced by the fact that the Godless secularists are not given the choice between conversion and the sword.
Yeah, right..... THAT'S proof... proof that you're an idiot.
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<quoted text>The COURTS, moron.
"The ancient law of England based upon societal customs and recognized and enforced by the judgments and decrees of the courts. The general body of statutes and case law that governed England and the American colonies prior to the American Revolution.
The principles and rules of action, embodied in case law rather than legislative enactments, applicable to the government and protection of persons and property that derive their authority from the community customs and traditions that evolved over the centuries as interpreted by judicial tribunals."
"Anglo-American common law traces its roots to the medieval idea that the law as handed down from the king's courts represented the common custom of the people. It evolved chiefly from three English Crown courts of the twelfth and thirteenth centuries: the Exchequer, the King's Bench, and the Common Pleas. These courts eventually assumed jurisdiction over disputes previously decided by local or manorial courts, such as baronial, admiral's (maritime), guild, and forest courts, whose jurisdiction was limited to specific geographic or subject matter areas. Equity courts, which were instituted to provide relief to litigants in cases where common-law relief was unavailable, also merged with common-law courts. This consolidation of jurisdiction over most legal disputes into several courts was the framework for the modern Anglo-American judicial system."
"common law n. the traditional unwritten law of England, based on custom and usage which developed over a thousand years before the founding of the United States. The best of the pre-Saxon compendiums of the Common Law was reportedly written by a woman, Queen Martia, wife of a Briton king of a small English kingdom. Together with a book on the "law of the monarchy" by a Duke of Cornwall, Queen Martia's work was translated into the emerging English language by King Alfred (849-899 A.D.). When William the Conqueror arrived in 1066, he combined the best of this Anglo-Saxon law with Norman law, which resulted in the English Common Law, much of which was by custom and precedent rather than by written code. By the 14th Century legal decisions and commentaries on the common law began providing precedents for the courts and lawyers to follow. It did not include the so-called law of equity (chancery) which came from the royal power to order or prohibit specific acts. The common law became the basic law of most states due to the Commentaries on the Laws of England, completed by Sir William Blackstone in 1769, which became every American lawyer's bible. Today almost all common law has been enacted into statutes with modern variations by all the states except Louisiana which is still influenced by the Napoleonic Code. In some states the principles of common law are so basic they are applied without reference to statute."
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com...
You'll please notice that there isn't a single reference to Christianity or any other religious belief system ANYWHERE in its origins.
Why don't we swear on a copy of Blackstone before testifying then? Do you understand why one witness was enough to get Thomas More beheaded?

The Common Law is the Natural Law.

A case decided by Holmes called Erie is more or less where Positive Law began to make giant inroads against Natural Law in America.

You're Positive Law, stupid.
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Never miss when your using HI, rounds.

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Why don't we swear on a copy of Blackstone before testifying then? Do you understand why one witness was enough to get Thomas More beheaded?
The Common Law is the Natural Law.
A case decided by Holmes called Erie is more or less where Positive Law began to make giant inroads against Natural Law in America.
You're Positive Law, stupid.
No one swears on a bible anymore in Court because it violates the religious freedoms of those who don't believe in God......like Atheists!!!
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<quoted text>No one swears on a bible anymore in Court because it violates the religious freedoms of those who don't believe in God......like Atheists!!!
What evidence could an atheist use to prove they are an atheist?

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ARGUING with IDIOTS wrote:
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What evidence could an atheist use to prove they are an atheist?
It doesn't matter......the fact is that the bible is not a book one places their hand on, nor do they swear to God anymore to tell the whole truth!!!!

I believe in God, I don't believe in a mythical book about stories supposedly written by men in God's name!!!
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Who says hate crimes are "worse" than other crimes? Oh, that's right,
The courts do. Hey I know u think u think u know it all but compare the sentence in court, which one mr know it all has a harsher sentence? Something in your mouth, can't think?
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Homosexuality is a pestilence upon mankind.
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The stats provided were from the FBI.
The FBI says most hate crimes are never reported to police and those that are typically are not categorized as hate crimes by local jurisdictions.
Read it again.
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No one swears on a bible anymore in Court because it violates the religious freedoms of those who don't believe in God......like Atheists!!!
do you pay attention?

is that what anyone was talking about?

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Once again, this is NOT a theocracy. And freedom of religion also means freedom from your sick twisted version of Christianity. From the way you people talk you want this country to to become just like the middle east where everyone is bound by old testement laws. Guess what, you would be put to death or jailed by your own standards. I could just get assylum in another country, but it will be fun to watch all of you hypocrite reaping the horrible seeds you have sewn, about 95% of you will die by your own hands
We certainly are heading toward a "theocracy"- though it isn't really a "religion". It is liberalism/progressiveness/and political correctness.

The new religion is the alienation of those whom achieve.

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do you pay attention?
is that what anyone was talking about?
Did you ask this question, "Why don't we swear on a copy of Blackstone before testifying then?"? So, my comment is what it is based on what I thought it meant.

Thanks for playing!!!

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-"LOL And where do you think the "rules of the common law" came from? LOL"
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>The COURTS, moron.
"The ancient law of England based upon societal customs and recognized and enforced by the judgments and decrees of the courts. The general body of statutes and case law that governed England and the American colonies prior to the American Revolution.
The principles and rules of action, embodied in case law rather than legislative enactments, applicable to the government and protection of persons and property that derive their authority from the community customs and traditions that evolved over the centuries as interpreted by judicial tribunals."
"Anglo-American common law traces its roots to the medieval idea that the law as handed down from the king's courts represented the common custom of the people. It evolved chiefly from three English Crown courts of the twelfth and thirteenth centuries: the Exchequer, the King's Bench, and the Common Pleas. These courts eventually assumed jurisdiction over disputes previously decided by local or manorial courts, such as baronial, admiral's (maritime), guild, and forest courts, whose jurisdiction was limited to specific geographic or subject matter areas. Equity courts, which were instituted to provide relief to litigants in cases where common-law relief was unavailable, also merged with common-law courts. This consolidation of jurisdiction over most legal disputes into several courts was the framework for the modern Anglo-American judicial system."
I can do that too:

"The common law of England is not the common law of these states."- George Mason

"What could the Convention have done? If they had in general terms declared the Common law to be in force, they would have broken in upon the legal Code of every State in the most material points: they wd. have done more, they would have brought over from G.B. a thousand heterogeneous & antirepublican doctrines, and even the ecclesiastical Hierarchy itself, for that is a part of the Common law. If they had undertaken a discrimination, they must have formed a digest of laws, instead of a Constitution.”- James Madison

"It is clear there can be no common law of the United States. The federal government is composed of twenty-four sovereign and independent states, each of which may have its local usages, customs, and common law. There is no principle which pervades the union and has the authority of law that is not embodied in the Constitution or laws of the union. The common law could be made a part of our system by legislative adoption." WHEATON V. PETERS, 33 U. S. 591 (1834)

“There is no common law of the United States in the sense of a national customary law, distinct from the common law of England as adopted by the several states each for itself, applied as its local law and subject to such alteration as may be provided by its own statutes.” Justice Matthews, SMITH V. ALABAMA, 124 U. S. 465 (1888)

"It is clear there can be no common law of the United States. The federal government is composed of twenty-four sovereign and independent states, each of which may have its local usages, customs, and common law. There is no principle which pervades the union and has the authority of law that is not embodied in the Constitution or laws of the union. The common law could be made a part of our system by legislative adoption."- WHEATON V. PETERS, 33 U. S. 591 (1834)
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We certainly are heading toward a "theocracy"- though it isn't really a "religion". It is liberalism/progressiveness/and political correctness.
The new religion is the alienation of those whom achieve.
On that we can agree.
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thisGuy wrote:
-"LOL And where do you think the "rules of the common law" came from? LOL"
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I can do that too:
The law of the United States consists of many levels[1] of codified and uncodified forms of law, of which the most important is the United States Constitution, the foundation of the federal government of the United States. The Constitution sets out the boundaries of federal law, which consists of constitutional acts of Congress, constitutional treaties ratified by Congress, constitutional regulations promulgated by the executive branch, and case law originating from the federal judiciary.
The Constitution and federal law are the supreme law of the land, thus preempting conflicting state and territorial laws in the fifty U.S. states and in the territories.[2] However, the scope of federal preemption is limited, because the scope of federal power is itself rather limited. In the unique dual-sovereign system of American federalism (actually tripartite[3] because of the presence of Indian reservations), states are the plenary sovereigns, while the federal sovereign possesses only the limited supreme authority enumerated in the Constitution.[4] Indeed, states may grant their citizens broader rights than the federal Constitution as long as they do not infringe on any federal constitutional rights.[5][6] Thus, most U.S. law (especially the actual "living law" of contract, tort, property, criminal, and family law experienced by the majority of citizens on a day-to-day basis) consists primarily of state law, which can and does vary greatly from one state to the next.[7][8]
At both the federal and state levels, the law of the United States was originally largely derived from the common law system of English law, which was in force at the time of the Revolutionary War.[9][10] However, U.S. law has diverged greatly from its English ancestor both in terms of substance and procedure, and has incorporated a number of civil law innovations.
COMMON LAW
That which derives its force and authority from the universal consent and immemorial practice of the people. The system of jurisprudence that originated in England and which was latter adopted in the U.S. that is based on precedent instead of statutory laws.
Traditional law of an area or region; also known as case law. The law created by judges when deciding individual disputes or cases. The body of law which includes both the unwritten law of England and the statutes passed before the settlement of the United States.
In Old England there were two types of Courts - law and equity. In the law court the Judge applied statutes. As time went on situations that were not covered by statutes were uncovered and Judges 'created' law, usually in equity. This is 'common law.'
The U.S. is a common law country. In all states except Louisiana (which is based on the French civil code), the common law of England was adopted as the general law of the state, EXCEPT when a statute provides otherwise. Common law has no statutory basis; judges establish common law through written opinions that are binding on future decisions of lower courts in the same jurisdiction. Broad areas of the law, most notably relating to property, contracts and torts are traditionally part of the common law. These areas of the law are mostly within the jurisdiction of the states and thus state courts are the primary source of common law. Thus,'common law' is used to fill in gaps. Common law changes over time, and at this time, each state has its own common law on many topics. The area of federal common law is primarily limited to federal issues that have not been addressed by a statute.

http://www.lectlaw.com/def/c070.htm
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jacques renault wrote:
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do you pay attention?
is that what anyone was talking about?
She has a problem with comprehention. It's nothing new get used to it, I did .... lol

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<quoted text>On that we can agree.
We probably agree on much more than you are willing to admit.

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