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Since: Jan 10

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akpilot wrote:
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No Rose, everything is not a Black issue.
You are just a hater who thinks he’s (or she’s) stumbled on a valid argument against equal rights for all Americans.

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Bruno wrote:
BooHoo now I'm a bigot because I chose not to be pushed to accept the homo lifestyle, BFD you are second class my friend get used to it ...
Not in Vermont, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, New York, Washington D.C., Maryland, Washington, California, and soon the US federal government as well.

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akpilot wrote:
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I am sorry you do not like the decision of the court:
" The clear and central purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment was to eliminate all official state sources of invidious racial discrimination in the States. "- Loving v Virginia
That's very nice. But it was in the context of a case dealing with race.
The 14th Amendment has been used to counter gender based discrimination as well.(Reed v Reed)

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Prof Marvel wrote:
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Your "arguments"?
Don't be ridiculous, you broke down hack.
You merely parrot what the LGBT says.
In all the time you're been here, which has been considerable, you've never once presented an idea that was yours -- never offered an original opinion, never disagreed with a syllable from the LGBT -- so don't dignify the crap you swill with the words "my arguments."
No...?
Okay, present one argument you haven't lifted from the LGBT playbook word for word.
Just one.
I won't hold my breath.
And you are just a joke.

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Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Rose's Law...
She's finally found a way to stop making such a pathetic fool of herself.

Now she just responds with "Rose's Law" and the IQ of her posts quadruples.

Since: Apr 11

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They are treated exactly the same, neither is allowed to marry someone of the same sex.
Again, that's like saying everybody could marry someone of the same race.
If a woman were to walk into the JP and ask to marry a man she'd be treated differently than a man who did the exact same thing, just because of her gender. You should at least act like you have some real character, and admit that's true.
akpilot wrote:
"Plaintiffs cite Loving for the proposition that a statute can discriminate even if it treats both classes identically. This misconstrues the Loving analysis because the antimiscegenation statute did not treat blacks and whites identically—it restricted who whites could marry (but did not restrict intermarriage between non-whites) for the purpose of promoting white supremacy.
By restricting who whites could marry, it restricted who non-whites could marry.(They couldn't marry whites.)
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Virginia's antimiscegenation statute was the quintessential example of invidious racial discrimination as it was intended to advantage one race and disadvantage all others, which is why the Supreme Court applied strict scrutiny and struck it down as violating the core interest of the Equal Protection Clause.
In contrast, neither men nor women are disproportionately disadvantaged or burdened by the fact that New York's Domestic Relations Law allows only opposite-sex couples to marry—both genders are treated precisely the same way. As such, there is no gender [*16]classification triggering intermediate scrutiny."- Hernandez v Robels
But, that's not the case. Women and men are treated differently.
But, even if they were treated equally, that still would not be a good argument against gay marriage. It should be allowed because there is no good reason not to allow it.

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akpilot wrote:
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They are treated exactly the same, neither is allowed to marry someone of the same sex.
"Plaintiffs cite Loving for the proposition that a statute can discriminate even if it treats both classes identically. This misconstrues the Loving analysis because the antimiscegenation statute did not treat blacks and whites identically—it restricted who whites could marry (but did not restrict intermarriage between non-whites) for the purpose of promoting white supremacy. Virginia's antimiscegenation statute was the quintessential example of invidious racial discrimination as it was intended to advantage one race and disadvantage all others, which is why the Supreme Court applied strict scrutiny and struck it down as violating the core interest of the Equal Protection Clause.
In contrast, neither men nor women are disproportionately disadvantaged or burdened by the fact that New York's Domestic Relations Law allows only opposite-sex couples to marry—both genders are treated precisely the same way. As such, there is no gender [*16]classification triggering intermediate scrutiny."- Hernandez v Robels
Nothing more than hate speak.

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Prof Marvel wrote:
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She's finally found a way to stop making such a pathetic fool of herself.
Now she just responds with "Rose's Law" and the IQ of her posts quadruples.
Rose's Law rules.

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Wat the Tyler wrote:
Gay marriage will be the law of the land in California by October of this year.
Washington, Maryland, and Maine will all soon have marriage equality after the November election.
And in New Jersey, Illinois, Hawaii there are law suits for gay marriage which will go to the courts.
DOMA is going to the Supreme Court.
By 2013 gay marriage might be legal in 13 US states and the federal government will also recognize gay marriage after DOMA is done.
You can't stop equality from happening. Gay marriage will be legal in all 50 states. It's inevitable.
I wouldn't bet money on that.

Another Jerry Sandusky or Larry Brinkin and your marriage "equality" gets sidelined forever.

You people have yet to explain Larry Brinkin.

Brinkin, you'll remember, was one of founders of the same-sex marriage movement.

Well, you haven't explained him and seem in no great hurry to do so. Specifically, you haven't explained how we prevent another Larry Brinkin from adopting a little boy.

Well, how do we?
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Prof Marvel wrote:
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She's finally found a way to stop making such a pathetic fool of herself.
Now she just responds with "Rose's Law" and the IQ of her posts quadruples.
Simply avoiding your bisexuality will not make it go away. As I suggested earlier today, it would be in the best interest of your mental health if you simply accept your sexuality. Perhaps a qualified therapist would be able to assist you in your deep seated hatred of yourself. You have to learn to love yourself before you can love others. Just remember God loves you just the way you are, after all He made you the bisexual that you are. Embrace your sexuality and be one with it, your mental health is at stake.

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_Reality Speaks_ wrote:
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Gay marriage is NOT a constitutional right, and neither is Marriage itself.
The Supreme Court disagrees with you.
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It is not mentioned even once in the Constitution. Please stop this gay tactic of misleading and misrepresenting your position. Thank you.
And equal protection is mentioned in the Constitution.

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Bruno wrote:
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BooHoo now I'm a bigot because I chose not to be pushed to accept the homo lifestyle, BFD you are second class my friend get used to it ...
Talk is cheap. Put your money where your mouth is. Oh that’s right, you’re just another loser who thinks that disparaging others elevates you to a higher stature. Seriously, you’ve said this so many times that no one believes it and I doubt that you do either. Reality is that you can become more than you are now if you just get off your duff and do something about it. Stop following the path of least resistance and do something to better yourself.

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Prof Marvel wrote:
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I wouldn't bet money on that.
Another Jerry Sandusky or Larry Brinkin and your marriage "equality" gets sidelined forever.
You people have yet to explain Larry Brinkin.
Brinkin, you'll remember, was one of founders of the same-sex marriage movement.
Well, you haven't explained him and seem in no great hurry to do so. Specifically, you haven't explained how we prevent another Larry Brinkin from adopting a little boy.
Well, how do we?
One person does not represent an entirety.

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Reality wrote:
Simply avoiding your bisexuality will not make it go away.
For many years I was a closeted bisexual. It took me a while but I finally came to terms with it and told my parents who where very accepting.
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If ya got a problem go here;

http://www.hl.com/register/municipalrestructu...

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_Reality Speaks_ wrote:
Gay marriage is NOT a constitutional right, and neither is Marriage itself. It is not mentioned even once in the Constitution. Please stop this gay tactic of misleading and misrepresenting your position. Thank you.
Dear, simply because your right to marry has not been spelled out for idiots like you, does not mean that it is not a constitutionally protected right. It is. There are three Supreme Court cases which specifically address that fact. The right to marry someone of the same sex was guaranteed under the Constitution of the state of California until the amendment sought to annul it. The question of whether or not the right of the individual to marry which is guaranteed by the US Constitution extends to those of the same sex will eventually have to be addressed by the SCOTUS, that question is not currently a part of the case against the amendment. The only one here who is misleading would be you cupcake, you laid down a statement of fact that has no basis in fact.

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Prof Marvel wrote:
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I wouldn't bet money on that.
Another Jerry Sandusky or Larry Brinkin and your marriage "equality" gets sidelined forever.
You people have yet to explain Larry Brinkin.
Brinkin, you'll remember, was one of founders of the same-sex marriage movement.
Well, you haven't explained him and seem in no great hurry to do so. Specifically, you haven't explained how we prevent another Larry Brinkin from adopting a little boy.
Well, how do we?
Do you have any new information on Mr. Brinkin's case ?

None of the articles mention anything more than that he had some "e-mail attachments". None of them state whether they were in his inbox, trash or sent folders.

I haven't read anywhere if he has been formally arraigned yet.
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Got your cross hairs crossed up again, use or adjust for your hot gass called windage.

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Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Whatever.
Gay marriage is a 14th Amendment issue. It's a simple matter of equal protection under the law. A man should be able to do the same thing a woman can do...marry a man. A woman should be able to do the same thing a man can...marry a woman.
So when the court tells you that you are wrong, your answer is "whatever"??

Idiot.

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Marram wrote:
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You are just a hater who thinks he’s (or she’s) stumbled on a valid argument against equal rights for all Americans.
You are still just a young adult trying to have an intelligent conversation. Get back to us after high school.

Funny how you and Rose, the forum jesters both returned at the same time, do you call each other to coordinate your clothing for the day as well?

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