Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Prof Marvel wrote:
Some of you fellows have become near-apoplectic at my assertion gay male parents only produce homosexual kids.
We shouldn't be surprised.
In their make-believe world of of saint-like gays and screwball gay bathhouse science, everything gay males touch turns to gold.
They would have us believe an erstwhile heterosexual boy raised in the household of say, Perez Hilton an Rue Paul will grow-up an utterly heterosexual boy with not a hint of queeness -- Why? Because as Lides say -- "You can't prove it ain't so!"
Say, Lides, let's play with this a little...
Would you allow a transvestite couple (male to female) adopt one of your nephews were he an orphan?
And here's an extra credit question, Lides: Why do gay males only adopt little boys and never little girls?
Prof, where is the prof of your absurd assertion? I'm still waiting for you to prove that your allegation is accurate. Until you do, it's only so much hot air.

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Sorry Mona,but more like Insane! You know,bat shit crazy in layman's terms! I can attest to that I've personally know dozens of straight men over the years through the course of my job of 35 years raised by gay male couples! But to even make such a ludicrous statement at all just shows there's something defective in his psyche! WoW LOL
Ok, then walk me through this because I'm really having trouble getting my head around your logic, fella.

A little boy enters a male homosexual household at say age five. For the next ten years he's not only taught homosexuality is normal, safe, and as wholesome as apple pie, he grows to love his new parents and witnessing the love, hugging, hand-holding, perhaps even sex the two parents frequently engage in grows to believe physical love between two men is wonderful and magical.

Add to this that because homosexuals only socialize with other homosexuals, the child is completely immersed in their world of gay pride parades, Lady Gaga music, holidays at Fire Island, etc.

Your contention is this boy will be no more inclined to convert to homosexuality than a boy in a mainstream family setting, correct?

And you base your hypothesis on exactly what, sir?

And, lides, don't bother injecting your useless hysteria. It doesn't advance the ball and you've said the same thing at least 50 times already.

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First, until you condemn heteros equally, you're willfully ignoring the totality of the truth.
Second, I'm looking at the Cambridge Cares About AIDS site (which you don't link to, coward, but here it is http://www.ccaa.org/programs.html ) and I'm at the Youth on Fire area (which you also did not link to, again cowardly of you, but here it is for all to see, http://www.ccaa.org/youth_on_fire.html ).
Now on the PUMP site, Peers Using More Prevention page, there is a link to Manhunt and to Rent-A-Boy. Yes, these ARE sex sites for people to hook up for, sex. What are they doing on a site for AIDS prevention and eduction???
Well, they are PAYING FOR THE SERVICES TO HELP PREVENT HIV AND AIDS. Manhunt and Rent-A-Boy are paying for the treatment of men with HIV/AIDS. These sex sites are paying to help educate the gay male population about STD's including HIV/AIDS. These sex sites are paying for the materials to be distributed to the community to promote RESPONSIBILE sex, because yes, gay men, like hetero men, have sex.
It's not a conflict of interest, it's promotion of safer sex, of responsibile sex, to minimize and reduce the transmission of STD's and HIV.
Do these sex sites have to do this? NO! There is no legal requirement for them to PAY for these services. THEY CHOOSE to pay for these services, the education, out of their own profit, to encourage responsibile sex between men.
They could do nothing. They CHOOSE to pay for vital services.
You are a liar and a coward. As always.
Eric
I think I get what you're saying:

If someone clicks on the link and tells them he saw their ad on Cambridge Cares About AIDS he'll be informed that he can't book a session with one of the male prostitutes because the ad was only placed on the CCA site to, as you say, HELP PREVENT HIV AND AIDS.

Question: is that the way you doped it out on your own, Eric, or is that what they told you when you called them?

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And here's an extra credit question, Lides: Why do gay males only adopt little boys and never little girls?
Here's an answer for you, they don't. Except for, of course in your mind where apparently everything homosexual is hyper-sexualized.

You know, some therapists might be concerned with your level of projection.

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Of course, you have yet to prove that two opposite sex parents is superior to having two loving same sex parents. You keep advancing this argument, but constitently fail to support it.
Try this thought experiment, would you have been as well off if, instead of a mother and father, you had two mothers or two fathers?

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Try this thought experiment, would you have been as well off if, instead of a mother and father, you had two mothers or two fathers?
Try this non-hypothetical, produce real scientific evidence that I wouldn't be.

Conjecture proves nothing whatsoever.

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Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Try this thought experiment, would you have been as well off if, instead of a mother and father, you had two mothers or two fathers?
Stats on gay male marriages are non-existent, the primary reason being they're so horrific the LGBT censors them.

But the truth is seeping out: Gay male marriages are a joke. And that's not just my opinion, that's the opinion of many gays who tried it:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-563...

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Prof Marvel wrote:
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Stats on gay male marriages are non-existent, the primary reason being they're so horrific the LGBT censors them.
But the truth is seeping out: Gay male marriages are a joke. And that's not just my opinion, that's the opinion of many gays who tried it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-563...
Now we can't go by what goes on personally in another country.

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Prof Marvel wrote:
Stats on gay male marriages are non-existent, the primary reason being they're so horrific the LGBT censors them.
But the truth is seeping out: Gay male marriages are a joke. And that's not just my opinion, that's the opinion of many gays who tried it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-563...
Feel free to prove your first comment.

Citing a British Tabloid article about a “pop-star” hardly counts as scientific evidence. Surely no “pop-star” in a traditional marriage has ever divorced… Oh wait…

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Some of you fellows have become near-apoplectic at my assertion gay male parents only produce homosexual kids.
Since this is pure nonsence, why would anyone care???
We shouldn't be surprised.
In their make-believe world of of saint-like gays and screwball gay bathhouse science, everything gay males touch turns to gold.
They would have us believe an erstwhile heterosexual boy raised in the household of say, Perez Hilton an Rue Paul will grow-up an utterly heterosexual boy with not a hint of queeness -- Why? Because as Lides say -- "You can't prove it ain't so!"
Say, Lides, let's play with this a little...
Would you allow a transvestite couple (male to female) adopt one of your nephews were he an orphan?
And here's an extra credit question, Lides: Why do gay males only adopt little boys and never little girls?
How do you know they do??? My good friends from church adopted two little sisters and one brother from the same family. They are great kids and loved completely. I had one little girl in my choir, and she was just a sweetheart. These are real people, not figments of your imagination.
You are a useless moron.

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Ok, then walk me through this because I'm really having trouble getting my head around your logic, fella.
A little boy enters a male homosexual household at say age five. For the next ten years he's not only taught homosexuality is normal, safe, and as wholesome as apple pie, he grows to love his new parents and witnessing the love, hugging, hand-holding, perhaps even sex the two parents frequently engage in grows to believe physical love between two men is wonderful and magical.
Add to this that because homosexuals only socialize with other homosexuals, the child is completely immersed in their world of gay pride parades, Lady Gaga music, holidays at Fire Island, etc.
Your contention is this boy will be no more inclined to convert to homosexuality than a boy in a mainstream family setting, correct?
And you base your hypothesis on exactly what, sir?
And, lides, don't bother injecting your useless hysteria. It doesn't advance the ball and you've said the same thing at least 50 times already.
Unless the little boy was born with a homosexual orientation, none of the suppositions you proposed (most of which were BS) would do any thing to his orientation.

LOSER!!!

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<quoted text>Try this thought experiment, would you have been as well off if, instead of a mother and father, you had two mothers or two fathers?
Absolutely!!!

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Stats on gay male marriages are non-existent, the primary reason being they're so horrific the LGBT censors them.
But the truth is seeping out: Gay male marriages are a joke. And that's not just my opinion, that's the opinion of many gays who tried it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-563...
Gee, longer than a Kardashian marriage!!!

BS, BUNK, and BALDERDASH!!!
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<quoted text>Since this is pure nonsence, why would anyone care???<quoted text>
How do you know they do??? My good friends from church adopted two little sisters and one brother from the same family. They are great kids and loved completely. I had one little girl in my choir, and she was just a sweetheart. These are real people, not figments of your imagination.
You are a useless moron.
Well Said! Reading this guy's comments he is a moron.

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Prof Marvel wrote:
Stats on gay male marriages are non-existent, the primary reason being they're so horrific the LGBT censors them.
But the truth is seeping out: Gay male marriages are a joke. And that's not just my opinion, that's the opinion of many gays who tried it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-563...
Federal statistics on sex crimes categorized by orientation, are also non-existent. PC censorship creates ignorance.

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Unless the little boy was born with a homosexual orientation, none of the suppositions you proposed (most of which were BS) would do any thing to his orientation.
LOSER!!!
I see ... and your science to support the above is located where?

In other words, Gay Mom, you don't have any -- not a whit.

You peddle you gay bar prattle like its hard science, but the only thing hard here is your head.

Stop promoting junk science. You don't know what effect gay male parents have on a child's sexual orientation, so stop pretending you do

Or ...

Back up your claims with sources.

I won't hold my breath.

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Prof Marvel wrote:
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I see ... and your science to support the above is located where?
In other words, Gay Mom, you don't have any -- not a whit.
You peddle you gay bar prattle like its hard science, but the only thing hard here is your head.
Stop promoting junk science. You don't know what effect gay male parents have on a child's sexual orientation, so stop pretending you do
Or ...
Back up your claims with sources.
I won't hold my breath.
Funny how you make wild accusations without ANY evidence to back up your BS, but you want US to provide you with evidence........you really are pathetic.

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Absolutely!!!
I'd bet you didn't have a happy childhood, am I right?
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Typical -- "Heteros do it too, so it must be alright."
There you have it folks, idiocy taken to new heights. It isn't a matter of heteros do it to, so it must be alright. It is simply an indication that all the crap you focus on isn't unique to gays, so you shouldn't think (if you've got the capability to think) that all are cut from the same cloth.
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Why is NAACP issuing strong condemnation of anti-LGBT marriage amendment?
http://rightwingnews.com/uncategorized/why-is...

Written By: Chris Kobus

It’s almost getting tiring to continue to say this, but the liberal movement has many appendages (tentacles if you will) that purport to speak for groups that they do not actually speak for. The NAACP is one cog in the liberal machine. They purport to speak for black people, but are racist against black people that don’t toe the liberal line. Black conservatives are called Uncle Toms and porch monkeys by the NAACP and their surrogates. They viciously attacked black justice Clarence Thomas when he was nominated for the supreme court. They do not represent black people, or even black liberal people, but rather the liberal movement and they simply use race to do it just like the National Organization of Women (NOW) uses gender. They wield those issues like weapons to progress the regressive liberal agenda. Case in point: NAACP issues strong condemnation of anti-LGBT marriage amendment

“Founded in 1909, the NAACP currently has more than 2,200 membership units across the United States with branches in every state in the nation. Our mission for 102 years has been to achieve equality of rights and eliminate prejudice among the people of the United States. The NAACP has always opposed any custom, tradition, practice, law or constitutional amendment that denies any right to any person.The NAACP does not and has not taken a position endorsing or opposing same sex marriage. However, the NAACP has a long history of opposing any proposal that would alter the federal or state Constitutions for the purpose of excluding any group or individuals from guarantees of equal protection under the law. Our opposition is based on our mission statement, which calls for the “equality of rights of all persons.”

I wonder if they will come out for polygamist marriage. I mean, if it’s all about “equality of rights of ALL persons.” Funny for an organization that is pro-abortion – denying the rights of babies to not be deprived of life without due process (5th, 14th amendment). Funny that abortions disproportionately impact the black community, and many organizations like Planned Parenthood that the NAACP supports were founded for the express purpose of eradicating minorities through abortion. Funny for an organization that supports affirmative action that discriminates against whites and Asians. Funny for an organization that purports to be for colored people when every poll shows blacks vehemently opposed to recognition of same sex marriage: 70% of African Americans backed Prop. 8, exit poll finds

A lot of Obama/Yes-on-8 voters? The Associated Press exit polls show that African Americans and Latinos backed Proposition 8 in good numbers. Details here from AP:

California’s black and Latino voters, who turned out in droves for Barack Obama, also provided key support in favor of the state’s same-sex marriage ban. Seven in 10 black voters backed a successful ballot measure to overturn the California Supreme Court’s May decision allowing same-sex marriage, according to exit polls for The Associated Press.

More than half of Latino voters supported Proposition 8, while whites were split. Religious groups led the tightly organized campaign for the measure, and religious voters were decisive in getting it passed. Of the seven in 10 voters who described themselves as Christian, two-thirds backed the initiative....

The NAACP doesn’t care about black people. They only care about advancing liberalism.

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