Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,318

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Dee

Norwalk, CA

#134915 Apr 2, 2012
This entire thread is GAY!!!!! Why can't gays accept tradition? Accept a UNION with benefits and MOVE ON......get over yerselves....FFS

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#134916 Apr 2, 2012
chief22 wrote:
<quoted text>
there was no right to eliminate, and walker was able to personally gain by his ruling, conflict of interest
On the contrary, equal marriage rights were already the law in CA. Prop 8 took those rights away.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#134917 Apr 2, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Moron!
Not only is your conclusion utterly wrong, but you've been given countless examples of instances where state government continues to have an interest in the private sexual conduct of citizens:
1. Incest
2. HIV
3. BDSM
4. Prostitution
5. "Swinging"
6. Pornography
7. Exhibitionism/masturbation
8. Public sex
9. Sex-texting using government property.
10. Solicitation (that senator in the mensroom)
These are just a few activities prohibited by most state governments; there are many more.
Now will you stop wasting everybody's time with your ignorant posts?
Let's see...State interest in private sexual conduct:

Incest-illegal
HIV-public health issue
BDSM??????
Prostitution-illegal
"Swinging"-no state interest
Pornography-only illegal if minors are used
Exhibitionism-illegal
Public Sex-illegal
Sex-texting using government property-dumb and probably will get you fired
Solicitation-see prostitution

Nothing about peoples private sex lives (except the swinging, which is legal and heterosexual). The state has NO INTEREST in my private sex life. NONE!!!!!

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Baltimore, MD

#134923 Apr 2, 2012
Gay Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's see...State interest in private sexual conduct:
Incest-illegal
HIV-public health issue
BDSM??????
Prostitution-illegal
"Swinging"-no state interest
Pornography-only illegal if minors are used
Exhibitionism-illegal
Public Sex-illegal
Sex-texting using government property-dumb and probably will get you fired
Solicitation-see prostitution
Nothing about peoples private sex lives (except the swinging, which is legal and heterosexual). The state has NO INTEREST in my private sex life. NONE!!!!!
You and your pal lides really do live in a parallel universe with rules of logic and deduction entirely different from our universe.

All the activities I enumerated have laws on the books that will send you to jail if convicted. All are a private sex matter. Swinging is still illegal in some states and has yet to produce case law in these states showing the state has no business proscribing it.

I won't even waste my time going though the others because your response is an ignorant one and as everyone knows ignorance is the most powerful weapon a person can use in a debate.
Just us

Greenville, SC

#134924 Apr 2, 2012
Gay Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
On the contrary, equal marriage rights were already the law in CA. Prop 8 took those rights away.
You are either dumb or a liar. Prop 22 was the law, marriage as one man and one woman. The CSSC pocked their noses in and violated initiative law, by not allowing a stay of their decision for the proponents to get signatures for a ballot initiative for Prop 8. When Prop 8 is upheld, we will go to the courts and invalidate those faux marriages because they are illegal. If we had not gotten the signatures then the stay could have been lifted and then the marriages would have been legal. So, Mom with no clue, shameful marriages were never the law so gays had no rights to same sex marriage.
Just us

Greenville, SC

#134925 Apr 2, 2012
Gay Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's see...State interest in private sexual conduct:
Incest-illegal
HIV-public health issue
BDSM??????
Prostitution-illegal
"Swinging"-no state interest
Pornography-only illegal if minors are used
Exhibitionism-illegal
Public Sex-illegal
Sex-texting using government property-dumb and probably will get you fired
Solicitation-see prostitution
Nothing about peoples private sex lives (except the swinging, which is legal and heterosexual). The state has NO INTEREST in my private sex life. NONE!!!!!
You really are not even half smart in a dumb closet.

Prostitution is not illegal in some countries and in parts of Nevada.
Incest like homosexuality was illegal and you only have a moral argument against same sex incest.

exhibitionism is not illegal, only public displays.

You really are dumb and since you heard the term no state interest, you have tried to ride it.

Polyamorous relationships are legal so explain the state interest in denying polygamy marriage.

There is none, only a social one, and that is what the Reynolds decision stated.
Just us

Greenville, SC

#134926 Apr 2, 2012
Gay Mom wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's see...State interest in private sexual conduct:
Incest-illegal
HIV-public health issue
BDSM??????
Prostitution-illegal
"Swinging"-no state interest
Pornography-only illegal if minors are used
Exhibitionism-illegal
Public Sex-illegal
Sex-texting using government property-dumb and probably will get you fired
Solicitation-see prostitution
Nothing about peoples private sex lives (except the swinging, which is legal and heterosexual). The state has NO INTEREST in my private sex life. NONE!!!!!
You really are a dumb bunny, because the state exercising its interest is why they, the state, makes these things illegal.

We now know why you made a gay child, something went terribly wrong in there.
Winston Smith

Durham, NC

#134927 Apr 2, 2012
Frank Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
One of the other stooges declared it is impossible for a homosexual to be a child molester. You support that ridiculous notion. But here you say "a homosexual is no more likely to molest a child than a heterosexual" (and I agree with that). But it implies some homosexuals do molest children. So what is it? Do some homosexuals molest children or not?
And by the way, your off topic. The ratio of homosexuals to heterosexuals is about as relevant as a rubber ducky in your bath tub.
Little Winston's rubber ducky. YUK!YUK!YUK!
No, numbskull, the implication has been that all men who molest boys are gay. Which is clearly not the case. The reality is that homosexuals rarely molest. I'm quite happy that you think your posts are intelligent. However, they're testimony to your limited intellect.
Just us

Greenville, SC

#134928 Apr 2, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>What planet do you live on? Polygamy is still illegal. Incest is still illegal.
Did your brain hurt when that thought bounced out, and was discarded? Polygamy and incest are illegal, really, where? Please specify where they are illegal and why. Let me help you, same sex marriage is also illegal in 44 states and 187 countries. So, what closet did you crawl out of?
Frank Rizzo

Union City, CA

#134929 Apr 2, 2012
Winston Smith wrote:
<quoted text>
No, numbskull, the implication has been that all men who molest boys are gay. Which is clearly not the case. The reality is that homosexuals rarely molest. I'm quite happy that you think your posts are intelligent. However, they're testimony to your limited intellect.
But you see dipshit, you dishonestly tried to make that MY implication. I never implied that and you know it.

You sure don't seem happy that my posts are intelligent Winston! Are you being dishonest again?

Winston. You're a big fibber! YUK!YUK!YUK!
Dee

Norwalk, CA

#134932 Apr 2, 2012
My My...get off the computer and go out and express yerselves in a healthy way...This is not healthy...

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#134933 Apr 2, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
You and your pal lides really do live in a parallel universe with rules of logic and deduction entirely different from our universe.
All the activities I enumerated have laws on the books that will send you to jail if convicted. All are a private sex matter. Swinging is still illegal in some states and has yet to produce case law in these states showing the state has no business proscribing it.
I won't even waste my time going though the others because your response is an ignorant one and as everyone knows ignorance is the most powerful weapon a person can use in a debate.
And equal marriage rights are not illegal. Apples and oranges. There is no state interest in keeping me from marrying my life partner. None.

And name calling is used by people who know they are losing an argument.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#134934 Apr 2, 2012
Just us wrote:
<quoted text>You are either dumb or a liar. Prop 22 was the law, marriage as one man and one woman. The CSSC pocked their noses in and violated initiative law, by not allowing a stay of their decision for the proponents to get signatures for a ballot initiative for Prop 8. When Prop 8 is upheld, we will go to the courts and invalidate those faux marriages because they are illegal. If we had not gotten the signatures then the stay could have been lifted and then the marriages would have been legal. So, Mom with no clue, shameful marriages were never the law so gays had no rights to same sex marriage.
Yes, equal marriage rights were in force in CA, and many, many homosexual couples took advantage of that. In fact, after Prop 8, it was ruled that those marriages were still legal. Check your facts, Bucko.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#134935 Apr 2, 2012
Just us wrote:
<quoted text>You really are a dumb bunny, because the state exercising its interest is why they, the state, makes these things illegal.
We now know why you made a gay child, something went terribly wrong in there.
Yes, the state made these things illegal. But there is no state interest in making marriage illegal. NONE.

BTW My daughters are heterosexual. I am a lesbian. Are you going to blame my parents??? Two out of their five are lesbians.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#134937 Apr 2, 2012
Just us wrote:
<quoted text>Did your brain hurt when that thought bounced out, and was discarded? Polygamy and incest are illegal, really, where? Please specify where they are illegal and why. Let me help you, same sex marriage is also illegal in 44 states and 187 countries. So, what closet did you crawl out of?
Same sex marriage is not illegal. It is just not recognized by the government. Now who is the dumb bunny.

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#134940 Apr 2, 2012
CRIP BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong stretch grasshopper, Native Americans fall under the same "suspect class" race. The issue is twofold "suspect class" and sexual orientation being a behavior and not distinguishable or identifiable. If you would like a case student on sex, women, and their status as a minority group then you are really way out in clueless land. You just got through going through the 10% thing and women are over 50%. Now, wonder bread, go get a research book and study the criteria s for a "suspect class".
Question??? If sexual orientation is a behavior, then chidren are neither heterosexual nor homosexual until they have sex??? Could you post some information that confirms this???

“Love thy neighbor!”

Since: Dec 06

Westland , MI

#134942 Apr 2, 2012
CRIP BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>You say that same sex marriage is normal for you, so for how many years have you been married to a same sex partner? Okay, so how many years were you married to an opposite sex partner, and if the gay marriage seems as normal as the straight one that you had then why did you suck it up?
27 years in a pretend heterosexual marriage until he left me for my best friend. 6 years in a same sex relationship with my new best friend and the love of my life.
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#134955 Apr 2, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't be ridiculous.
And nagging only wins arguments where you live, Missy.
And for the record, I've already linked to the group of physicians who believe same-sex marriage gives the false impression homosexual sex is safe. Here it is again:
http://www.obamnesty.com/index.php...
Why not read the article and learn why they believe the state has an interest in restricting marriage to opposite sex?
And as pointed out, if the state has an interest in the sex lives of polygamists, siblings, the mentally ill, why not homosexuals?
Why should homosexuals alone be given a special dispensation?
Attempting to spread a virus again?
Mona Lott

Hoboken, NJ

#134956 Apr 2, 2012
CRIP BUSTER wrote:
<quoted text>Of course, your parents are to blame and two out of five makes sense. Similar environment and socialization and stories you won't tell. Environmental and social factors manufacture gays like a factory bilaterally destroying the amygdala.
That's a pretty stupid thing to say.
Rules Of Evidence

Livermore, CA

#134957 Apr 2, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>
Attempting to spread a virus again?
Watch out Mona,Dr. Douche is at it again! LOL,You know what happens when his mouth opens,projectile Lie's,hatred and bigotry pour forth!! Beware! LOL

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