Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Karma is a_______ wrote:

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Okay Dan, I'm a little confused. You say you were born heterosexual and knew so from the 3rd grade. Don't you think the same applies to homosexuals?
I knew I was heterosexual and attracted to girls at about the same age. Which is why I know sexual persuasion has to be innate. I never made a choice to be heterosexual, so I can't imagine homosexuality to be a choice,. Especially considering the social stigma and prejudice associated with that choice. I mean who in their right mind would choose that. Heck, I'd rather choose to be some right wing mindless fundamentalist evangelical christian wingnut full of mindless hate, loathing, ignorane and prejudice than choose to be homosexual

Spot on brother.

Edgar wrote:

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Implying that SSM is an issue that will win over voters?
Implying that the majority of people now support SSM?
Isn't your crowd the one that keeps telling us how the majority of America is against SSM?
Then why is SSM something that a politician would advocate just to "keep his useless a** in the White House"?
Which one is it? Is it something everyone will support a politician for, or something everyone "knows" is wrong? Can't be both.

Because he is gay. I guess you missed his political analyst saying that his support of SSM is his undoing. Obama's hand was forced by North Carolina and a planned $15 million dinner in So. California with a lot of gays and gay supporters attending.

Pay attention, 43 states oppose SSM and that is a hill too high for an airplane to maneuver over.

Not a homophobe wrote:

There's a guy who calls himself Here Is One who pasts anti gay crap all the time. Pathetic thing is he's a self proclaimed pedophile with a lust for little pre-teen boys. Such a hypocrite.

Wow, I thought you were going to call him gay, which would make him by definition a gay pedophile. You know, like YOU.

Cheyenne277 wrote:

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Rigghhht. Post the source on that one numb nuts.

Wow, yet another gay who does not know how to google search.. How gay!

Edgar wrote:

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On behalf of my gay/lesbian friends and family,
LEAVE

If you seek gay/lesbian friends and family on a debate thread, it is YOU who should leave and get a life. You know at a gay counseling group.

Nettiebelle wrote:

<quoted text>Being the sexual orientation you are is not a choice, and there is no sin IN being the sexual orientation you are.
Jesus never said anything about homosexuality; neither did God.
The word does not appear in the Bible, not from the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek texts because there was no word in those languages that would translate to the word homosexual, not as homosexuality is understood today.
The authors of the Bible did not understand sexual orientation.
The term homosexual was only developed in the late 19th century, and the word homosexual first appeared in a Bible in 1973, the NIV.

Keep lying about that one and you will find yourself begging for a key to get in heaven.

1 Corinthians 7:2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication let every man have his own wife; and let every woman have her own husband.

The Bible does not use the word pedophilia either, but we know that NAMBLA is a gay group.

So, do you claim that God wrote Corinthians and the Roman Catholic church is fake?

How about Matthews where Jesus speaks about marriage, being a man leaving his mother and father and clinging to his wife and the TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH?

WHEN YOU FINISH REMOVING THE PAGES FROM THE BIBLE, TO SUIT YOU, WHAT DO YOU HAVE LEFT?

1 Corinthians 6:9.

I suppose that you toss out the book of Leviticus and the entire Old Testament or Torah, which is why the Romans killed Christ and the RCC killed over 100 million Jews and Christians.

So, do you practice bestiality, Leviticus 18:23 or incest 15-18?

No, never mind, the Bible does not apply to you, it is for Christians.

People today think they can edit the Scriptures to suit the gay lifestyle. Epic fail. Google Search or Wikipedia Search, "The Jesus Seminar". That crazy outfit out of Santa Rosa, California, has been cutting, pasting and voting what they think Jesus said or did. That's a dangerous game to play.

RnL2008 wrote:

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My wife guards my heart more than their her own and I like wise do the same for her:-)
We both are there through the good times and the bad, we don't make excuses for anything and we are constantly there for each other.
We have made a lifelong commitment again throughout our very life existence and because we are soul mates, our spirits are very much in tune with each other.
My wife is certainly very familiar with my soul's secrets as she has intimate knowledge of them through out our very existences.......we are soul mates and have vowed to be with each other through this lifetime and beyond.
The rest of your post will find the same response as the ones I've already made comments to........and yes, a "REAL" Marriage is not about my needs being met or fulfilled, but that we each are able to meet and fulfill the other's needs.....and we do.
Again, just because we are 2 women, we still have our own uniqueness and we still must learn what makes the other tick in order to take care all of the things that our spouse needs from us.
You believe that only a man and a woman have special uniqueness that the other doesn't have, but that is also just a small portion of what makes a marriage a marriage.
In my opinion one of the most important aspect of a marriage is to NEVER TAKE YOUR SPOUSE FOR GRANTED OR THE RELATIONSHIP......obviously that happens way to much in an opposite-sex marriage........possibly why the divorce rate is so high.
Oh and another thing.......many people search a lifetime for their soul mate......I was lucky enough to find mine and have the opportunity to marry her and make her my wife:-)

the sweetest thing i have ever heard,wish my dad wud say dat bout my mum....lol.

You can judge people how they treat others. Keeping marriage as is treats gays under the same rules and laws applied to straights. When we advocate husband/wife marriage, we support human rights for everyone.

Same sex marriage is gender segregation marriage. Keep the perfect diversity of male/female marriage.

RnL2008 wrote:
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My wife guards my heart more than their her own and I like wise do the same for her:-)
We both are there through the good times and the bad, we don't make excuses for anything and we are constantly there for each other.
We have made a lifelong commitment again throughout our very life existence and because we are soul mates, our spirits are very much in tune with each other.
My wife is certainly very familiar with my soul's secrets as she has intimate knowledge of them through out our very existences.......we are soul mates and have vowed to be with each other through this lifetime and beyond.
The rest of your post will find the same response as the ones I've already made comments to........and yes, a "REAL" Marriage is not about my needs being met or fulfilled, but that we each are able to meet and fulfill the other's needs.....and we do.
Again, just because we are 2 women, we still have our own uniqueness and we still must learn what makes the other tick in order to take care all of the things that our spouse needs from us.
You believe that only a man and a woman have special uniqueness that the other doesn't have, but that is also just a small portion of what makes a marriage a marriage.
In my opinion one of the most important aspect of a marriage is to NEVER TAKE YOUR SPOUSE FOR GRANTED OR THE RELATIONSHIP......obviously that happens way to much in an opposite-sex marriage........possibly why the divorce rate is so high.
Oh and another thing.......many people search a lifetime for their soul mate......I was lucky enough to find mine and have the opportunity to marry her and make her my wife:-)

pizzahater wrote:

<quoted text>the sweetest thing i have ever heard,wish my dad wud say dat bout my mum....lol.

Every gay and straight wished their dad said that about their mom. That is exactly a major difference between marriage and gay unions.

In fact, RnL2008 probably learned it from her mother and father, and foolishly is trying to apply it to the wrong relationship.

Rational Adult wrote:

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WHEN YOU FINISH REMOVING THE PAGES FROM THE BIBLE, TO SUIT YOU, WHAT DO YOU HAVE LEFT?

Good luck explaining to God one day that you attributed things like this to Him:

Leviticus 25:44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

Exodus 21:20 “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property.

Genesis 19:33 That night they got their father to drink wine, and the older daughter went in and slept with him. He was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger,“Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father.

Deuteronomy 22:28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and r@pes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

Genesis 19:8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”

1 Timothy 2:11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace—as in all the congregations of the Lord’s people.

34 Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

Matthew 19:(Jesus Speaking) 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for $ ex ual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

1 Corinthians 7:10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.

Numbers 31:(Moses Speaking) 15 “Have you allowed all the women to live?” he asked them. 16 “They were the ones who followed Balaam’s advice and enticed the Israelites to be unfaithful to the LORD in the Peor incident, so that a plague struck the LORD’s people. 17 Now ki11 all the boys. And ki11 every woman who has slept with a man, 18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

2 Kings 6:27 The king replied,“If the LORD does not help you, where can I get help for you? From the threshing floor? From the winepress?” 28 Then he asked her,“What’s the matter?”

She answered,“This woman said to me,‘Give up your son so we may eat him today, and tomorrow we’ll eat my son.’ 29 So we cooked my son and ate him. The next day I said to her,‘Give up your son so we may eat him,’ but she had hidden him.”

The Great Sly_Clyde wrote:

<quoted text>So people are born gay and its NOT a choice? OMG . You are correct except that just because one parent is gay does not mean a child will be gay. Look dumbass two heterosexual parents can have a gay child. How in the fluck do ya think they got here?

They got here on the mother's X chromosome inherited from her gay father or from her gay grandfather. Women have two X chromosomes. If the son gets the gay X he will be gay. If the daughter gets the gay X from her mother and a straight X from her father, she will be a "carrier". This theory has been challenged, but it is a possibility.

Brian_G wrote:

You can judge people how they treat others. Keeping marriage as is treats gays under the same rules and laws applied to straights. When we advocate husband/wife marriage, we support human rights for everyone.
Same sex marriage is gender segregation marriage. Keep the perfect diversity of male/female marriage.

Bigotry hiding behind the guise of diversity. Now I've seen it all.

So now we commoners/paupers/peasants/sub jects (formerly citizens) have no say in political matters. It seems apparent the whole voting process should be abolished, seeing as what the majority of CA citizens decided has been summarily disposed and disregarded by a singular person.

DavidH64 wrote:

So now we commoners/paupers/peasants/sub jects (formerly citizens) have no say in political matters. It seems apparent the whole voting process should be abolished, seeing as what the majority of CA citizens decided has been summarily disposed and disregarded by a singular person.

No,sorry,not one person but rather one document called the Constitution! Read the decision some time and make an attempt to learn something! Oh and by the way the second court also upheld the Prop 8 decision! Google tyranny of the majority and get back to me!

Bill Of Rights wrote:

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No,sorry,not one person but rather one document called the Constitution! Read the decision some time and make an attempt to learn something! Oh and by the way the second court also upheld the Prop 8 decision! Google tyranny of the majority and get back to me!

ROFLMFAO!!!!! So a Majority is a "Tyranny". Spoken like a true brain dead lemming liberal.

DavidH64 wrote:

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ROFLMFAO!!!!! So a Majority is a "Tyranny". Spoken like a true brain dead lemming liberal.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.-unknown.

If you doubt the tyranny of the majority, you must not belong to a homeowner's association. YUK!YUK!YUK!

Rational Adult wrote:

<quoted text>Keep lying about that one and you will find yourself begging for a key to get in heaven.
1 Corinthians 7:2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication let every man have his own wife; and let every woman have her own husband.
The Bible does not use the word pedophilia either, but we know that NAMBLA is a gay group.
So, do you claim that God wrote Corinthians and the Roman Catholic church is fake?
How about Matthews where Jesus speaks about marriage, being a man leaving his mother and father and clinging to his wife and the TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH?
WHEN YOU FINISH REMOVING THE PAGES FROM THE BIBLE, TO SUIT YOU, WHAT DO YOU HAVE LEFT?
1 Corinthians 6:9.
I suppose that you toss out the book of Leviticus and the entire Old Testament or Torah, which is why the Romans killed Christ and the RCC killed over 100 million Jews and Christians.
So, do you practice bestiality, Leviticus 18:23 or incest 15-18?
No, never mind, the Bible does not apply to you, it is for Christians.

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The Buybull is for christians! ahahahahahahahahah
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Who wrote it?

DorN wrote:

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They got here on the mother's X chromosome inherited from her gay father or from her gay grandfather. Women have two X chromosomes. If the son gets the gay X he will be gay. If the daughter gets the gay X from her mother and a straight X from her father, she will be a "carrier". This theory has been challenged, but it is a possibility.

This theory has been challenged?
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I can't imagine why.......

DavidH64 wrote:

So now we commoners/paupers/peasants/sub jects (formerly citizens) have no say in political matters. It seems apparent the whole voting process should be abolished, seeing as what the majority of CA citizens decided has been summarily disposed and disregarded by a singular person.

Did you sleep through civics class?