Santa Cruz County's unstimulated economy

We have become a community that relies on the state and federal pork, grants, poverty programs, and loans-etc. that our elected representatives deficit borrow or tax us for to later "beneficently bestow" and dole out to their "chosen" ones. That's it in a nutshell.
We don't have to operate this way, but always will with the current self perpetuating, self congratulatory, and self serving crowd (and I mean ALOT-wayyyy too many to keep this little Good Ship Santa Cruz afloat!) of public and ngo nonprofit parity payed, pensioned, perced, and programed FOPs....Friend of Progressives...seeing to the needs of our invited homeless, poor, and illegals, and other assorted nonproductive elements in our society here.
"Stimulus" is the mana The Brave New World...
We don't need it! Soma? Are you sleeping?
Wake up!

The stimulus package is like a band-aid on a cancer. It makes you feel good for awhile, but does not cure the cancer. Look at what the money is being spent on. Nothing that creates demand, which creates product, which creates jobs.

Here is an example:
"For one thing, more than half the local money has already gone to education" Where will the money for this saving moment come from should the economy not turn around? The federal government cannot just continue to print money, nor can they continue to enact laws that raise the cost of necessities like fuel and energy, which will raise the cost of everything we buy. We are in the beginning of a death spiral, we just do not know it yet.

Relying on Pork wrote:

We have become a community that relies on the state and federal pork, grants, poverty programs, and loans-etc. that our elected representatives deficit borrow or tax us for to later "beneficently bestow" and dole out to their "chosen" ones. That's it in a nutshell.
We don't have to operate this way, but always will with the current self perpetuating, self congratulatory, and self serving crowd (and I mean ALOT-wayyyy too many to keep this little Good Ship Santa Cruz afloat!) of public and ngo nonprofit parity payed, pensioned, perced, and programed FOPs....Friend of Progressives...seeing to the needs of our invited homeless, poor, and illegals, and other assorted nonproductive elements in our society here.
"Stimulus" is the mana The Brave New World...
We don't need it! Soma? Are you sleeping?
Wake up!

CASE STUDY
SUBJECT: Ryan Coonerty

Employee Name COONERTY,RYAN

FOP Public Compensation Package
1. UCSC
Position LECTURER - ACADEMIC YEAR
Regular pay 25611.48
Overtime pay 0
Total pay 37275.48
2. Sam Farr Special FOP "Research Grant"...$????
3. City Council Pay....$????

Private Compensation Package
1. "3" Downtown Businesses...$????

The USA is the number one manufacture and exporter of armaments in the world. Be proud USA.

Why is the war machine the only growth industry ?
Social programs, medical needs we can't afford but war well we will find money for-that no problem.
We could pave our streets with gold if we could shack off the war machine.

$100M is just about enough to cover raises for the UCSC gang and the County Sup's and the City Council. If anything is left we'll send it to the homless shelter.

Pave West Cliff so 50 times the valley drivers can park there for free (including side streets and driveways- mine included) using contractors from anywhere except from Santa Cruz written on their paving machines: and wonder why we are broke as a city? We are a strange society.

Yet allowing homeless gypsies dibs on one spot for a crew of vegetables-by-choice tells me a lot about allowing being overdone in this city; and not for profit either. I most likely will never will see when "enough is ENOUGH", but we are beyond the financial boiling point.

Watch the podcast on BookTV.org

Economics Does Not Lie

http://booktv.org/Watch/10705/Economics+Does+...

The basis of growth is entrepreneurship

(This is why Reaganomics worked and Obamanomics is flat; Reagan's tax act of 1981 had accelerated depreciation and loads of other things that made biz leaders optimistic.)

Podcast again:

25 minutes 40 seconds
I love the discussion I had with a liberal economist at Cornell University last night because you have this big debate about health care in the United States. Many liberal economists in the U.S. look at the French system and they love it. If you were French, you would have half your income used to pay for the high speed train and the welfare system…AND ALSO THE (FRENCH) PEOPLE THAT PAY THE MOST ARE THE UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE, THE COST OF THE FRENCH HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS SO HIGH THAT IT DOES PREVENT THE EMPLOYMENT OF A LOT OF YOUNG AND QUALIFIED PEOPLE…

27 minutes 25 seconds
Yes you can have the French system, but you will also have much higher unemployment; what the U.S. has for unemployment in bad years, France has in good years. When France has a good year of 10% unemployment, 40% of the under 25 age group are unemployed in France.

40 minutes 37 seconds
In the short term, public stimulus may work, it can create some kind of jobs in the short term; but not for very long because the kind of investments where the state goes create jobs but does not create wealth. Therefore we know that eventually stimulus is paid for by higher taxes or inflation…which will slow down the recovery. It is mostly columnists or politicians that are recommending this type of public stimulus, but among economists, I don’t see many of them recommending this type of stimulus…no names come to my mind actually.

(Turn off the video games, Daily Show Jon and the fluffmeister that follows him and watch something you'll learn from.)

Headline should have been:

"Santa Cruz County's UNSUSTAINABLE Economy". Non-profits = no taxes. Any stimulous money has been sucked up by non-profits and feel good programs. Even more true for the City of SC.

PS: Heichel again shows his colors. Black and white. Reaganonmics? Did not work. Too early to tell about Obama. What a moron (d. heichel, that is, a lower case individual for the most part).

Dan Walters: California budget boss jumps off before train wrecks

The Legislature's budget analyst, Mac Taylor, will issue his appraisal soon. He'll probably tell his bosses what they don't want to hear – that things are getting worse, not better.

State revenues are running billions of dollars below even the pessimistic estimates on which the current version of the budget was based. Several of the gimmicks and unspecific spending cuts in the budget, as insiders knew at the time, aren't bearing as much financial fruit as advertised. Adverse court decisions are torpedoing other cuts. Federal bailout money is running out. And the economy remains moribund, with unemployment likely to rise.

An educated estimate is that the 2009-2010 budget is about $7 billion out of whack and that the 2010- 2011 version will have at least a $10 billion gap between income and outgo. That's why Capitol insiders are now talking about a $15 billion to $20 billion problem that Schwarzenegger and lawmakers will confront when the Legislature reconvenes in January.

The options for dealing with another big deficit, meanwhile, are shrinking.

http://www.sacbee.com/capitolandcalifornia/st...

WHAT DO YOU SEE DEMOCRATS DOING TO REMEDY THE ECONOMIC SITUATION?

ZERO! THEY OWE THEIR SOUL TO THE GOV'T UNIONS, TRIAL LAWYERS, TEACHER'S UNIONS, ETC. as seen by this sentence in the above Walter's piece:
That's why, one suspects, Democratic legislators staged a hearing last week to decry cuts in home care services for the disabled that would reduce the ranks of unionized care workers – cuts for which they had voted in July.

Finley: Jobs a low priority for Democrats

http://detnews.com/article/20091108/OPINION03...

Sen. Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., rammed an energy-rationing bill through her Senate Environment and Public Works Committee last week without a single Republican member in the room.

The bill would greatly limit America's ability to produce the energy it needs to fuel an economic rebound. In other words, it's a job killer.

Wrong headline wrote:

Headline should have been:
"Santa Cruz County's UNSUSTAINABLE Economy". Non-profits = no taxes. Any stimulous money has been sucked up by non-profits and feel good programs. Even more true for the City of SC.
PS: Heichel again shows his colors. Black and white. Reaganonmics? Did not work. Too early to tell about Obama. What a moron (d. heichel, that is, a lower case individual for the most part).

You still cain't get it right, Wrong.

dON hEICHEL

And I again refer you to Economics Does Not Lie:

(12 minutes 45 seconds) This came as a surprise for many people, even economists…The big surprise over the last 25 years is that free markets and capitalism works everywhere, in any civilization and this is still not well accepted.

Hey Wrong, I think his last sentence is directed at people (like you) that call others a moron while sinking in Obama's mess.

How did we arrive at our "UNSUSTAINABLE Economy"? Perhaps you should watch the podcast before Poniticating about that which you are soooo Wrong.

Moron was one of Bugs Bunnies favorite words...is that where you picked it up?

Patriot wrote:

Gosh, since our great "leaders" have de-industrialized our country we seem to have no money. Could there be a connection between producing nothing and having nothing to sell, which leads to earning no money? I don't have the benefit of a university education so perhaps somebody could clarify the basics of SOCIO-ECONOMIC laws to me. And how can it be that the GOVERNMENT is the nations largest employer? Is that really true? Can the few of us who actually produce something really afford to pay all that money in taxes to continually support more and more of the same thing that got us into this mess?

Patriot -- you do seem to have the benefit of NOT having a university education! You can still see and think straight. Some things just make too much sense to be taught in the university. Too close to reality?

Bugs pronounced it 'maroon' you moron.

Santa Cruz City leaders are all about retail and tourism and, uh, "art." The basic plan for the economy is, Keep Santa Cruz Poor. Because if you are poor, you need the City/State/Feds to give you a hand. And that's good for little bureaucrats building little fiefdoms. Sweet.

We moved over here earlier in the year, and absolutely love Santa Cruz. However, we still each have to commute over the hill, and may have to for years, because there is very little business over here. I was a bit surprised to find out how little in the way of local commerce there is, and other than farmer's markets, some art, and a few wineries and breweries, a nursery here or there, and a small amount of services, I don't see much business going on.

"Sustainable" is a popular word in today's "green" world. I see empty plants from my house that are large enough to manufacture solar panels, themocouplers for roof mounts, or even to set up discount groceries like Winco, or Costco.

It seems as though we need to find a way to create jobs, and as someone mentioned above, employ local companies to pave streets and provide services.

Our first thought might be "Keep Santa Cruz Sustainable" , not "Keep Santa Cruz Weird".

As a former "Valley" I knew that the image of Santa Cruz as druggies, low employment, low incomes, was prevalent. What I didn't know is that it is true.

Time to change that. Our focus needs to shift to business, and methodolgies for self sustainability from income producing industries. The government handouts from our taxes should be reserved to primary education and facilities upgrades, and that money should be used to hire competent locals.

Our Chamber of Commerce, City Council, and Board of Supervisors need to think on a more macroeconomic basis now that property taxes and toursim can't be relied on te sustain Santa Cruz any longer.

You need to thank Democrat Sam Farr and his Democrat buddies for including Santa Cruz in the pork filled $787 BILLION monstrocity known as the Feb. 2009 Stimulus Bill! Sammy Farr wants to be re-elected again come end of his next term and delivering the pork ensures the entitlement mentality is alive and well in Liberal Land!

Westsider wrote:

We moved over here earlier in the year, and absolutely love Santa Cruz. However, we still each have to commute over the hill, and may have to for years, because there is very little business over here. I was a bit surprised to find out how little in the way of local commerce there is, and other than farmer's markets, some art, and a few wineries and breweries, a nursery here or there, and a small amount of services, I don't see much business going on.
"Sustainable" is a popular word in today's "green" world. I see empty plants from my house that are large enough to manufacture solar panels, themocouplers for roof mounts, or even to set up discount groceries like Winco, or Costco.
It seems as though we need to find a way to create jobs, and as someone mentioned above, employ local companies to pave streets and provide services.
Our first thought might be "Keep Santa Cruz Sustainable" , not "Keep Santa Cruz Weird".
As a former "Valley" I knew that the image of Santa Cruz as druggies, low employment, low incomes, was prevalent. What I didn't know is that it is true.
Time to change that. Our focus needs to shift to business, and methodolgies for self sustainability from income producing industries. The government handouts from our taxes should be reserved to primary education and facilities upgrades, and that money should be used to hire competent locals.
Our Chamber of Commerce, City Council, and Board of Supervisors need to think on a more macroeconomic basis now that property taxes and toursim can't be relied on te sustain Santa Cruz any longer.

You must not omit the fact that Liberal Land Santa Cruzan's expect a plethora of socialist taxpayer funded services provided to a myriad of special interest groups! These mmutitudes of socialist prograsms feel good but unfortunately cost a lot of taxpayer money and the taxpayers have pretty much hit the limits of even their Liberal Mentality and generosity. They love the socialist programs but better yetr when paid for by someone else!!

What will we do when all the money from stimulous 4 & 5 is spent,& all we have are debts in the trillions & no way of paying the interest on it let alone paying it back. Jobs created by free imterprise are sustainable ,jobs made by the goverment are not.